I am definatly installing a dashboard cam now
 

This Cop got caught real good :nanana: :nanana: :nanana:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes...er.dashcam.cnn

If this case is really true I hope homey get's fired. :thumbup:

Sugar donuts and caffein apparently didn't agree with this boy in blue.

Oh NO, NO, NO!!!!!

This is a punk who is taunting the police. In the CNN Video, that was just his side of the story. What really happened was that he pulled into a lot at 2:00am that was known for illegal activity, then proceeds to turn his interior light on and off again. Cops were around becuase they bust drug activity there.

This kid, probably now about 21, was out specifically to harass, provoke and frame the cops. Think I'm kidding???

Check out what he did when he was just 19! Talk about nerve! Here's HIS side of the story when he went through and regular DUI checkpoint on a major holiday. (And I betcha he knew where the checkpoint was and specifically drove through it with his recording equipment on) Thank God he isn't doing this in South Central LA. He'd be another Rodney King.

Read on...

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Missouri stop a teenager harassed by police in St. Louis, Missouri caught
the incident on tape. Brett Darrow, 19, had his video camera rolling
last month as he drove his 1997 Maxima, minding his own business. He
approached a drunk driving roadblock where he was stopped, detained and
threatened with arrest when he declined to enter a conversation with a
police officer about his personal travel habits. Now Darrow is
considering filing suit against St. Louis County Police.


"I'm scared to drive for fear of being stopped at another checkpoint and
arrested while doing nothing illegal," Darrow told TheNewspaper. "We're
now guilty until we prove ourselves innocent to these checkpoint officers."


On that late November night, videotape confirms that Darrow had been
ordered out of his vehicle after telling a policeman, "I don't wish to
discuss my personal life with you, officer." Another officer attempted
to move Darrow's car until he realized, "I can't drive stick!" The
officer took the opportunity to undertake a thorough search of the
interior without probable cause. He found nothing.


When Darrow asked why he was being detained, an officer explained, "If
you don't stop running your mouth, we're going to find a reason to lock
you up tonight."


The threats ended when Darrow informed officers that they were being
recorded. After speaking to a supervisor Darrow was finally released.


"These roadblocks have gotten out of hand," Darrow told TheNewspaper.
"If we don't do something about them now, it'll be too late."


Transcript of audio made by Brett Darrow:


00:40
Officer #1: How are you tonight sir?
Brett: Hi.
Officer #1: Can you put your window down for me.
(I roll the window ALL the way down.)
Officer #1: Do you have a driver's license and proof of insurance?
(I begin to get my information out of my wallet)
Officer #1: Where you headed tonight?
Brett: I don't wish to discuss my personal life with you officer.
Officer #1: Alright, come on up here.
(I start to move my car)
Officer #1: As a matter of fact, just stop your car right here and step out.
(I stop the car, roll up my windows, pull up the emergency brake, and
shut the car off)
Officer #1: Leave your car runnin with the keys in it.
Brett: What's that?
Officer #1: Leave your car runnin with the keys in it.
Brett: I don't want it to roll away officer.
Officer#1: Turn the car on.
Brett: It's a manual officer.
Officer #1: Okay. That's fine, then leave it off. Just leave it off.
You're right, that's dangerous.
(I step out, and lock the doors.)
(He then calls another officer over)
Officer #1: Give me your keys.
Brett: Why officer?
Officer #1: I need to move it out of the street.
Brett: Can I move it?
Officer #1: No.
(Officer #1 takes my keys)
Brett: Why are you moving my car?
Officer #1: Because I'm going to talk you--I'm going to interview you
because you didn't want to interview. You didn't want to sit down and
have a talk with me.
Brett: I do not want to talk about my personal life.
Officer #1: Okay.
(We walk to the side of the road)


1:48
(Officer #2 then unlocks my car and looks around inside of it. You can
see his flash light moving around in the car.)
Officer #2: Hey uh, I can't drive a stick. (laughs about it) I can't
drive a stick.
(Officer #3 enters my car and attempts to move it. He stalls it once. He
then lets it roll back down the hill before giving it a lot of gas and
ridding the clutch while trying to move it forward. He then exits the
car 62 seconds after entering.)
(While the officers are trying to move my vehicle, this audio not heard)
Officer #1: Where are you headed tonight?
Brett: I don't want to talk about my personal life.
Officer #1: Have you had anything to drink tonight?
Brett: No.
Officer #1: Alright, I'll be right back
(Officer #1 then calls 2 other officers (Officers #4 & #5) to stand by
me as he goes to a patrol car to check my license)


Brett: Why am I being detained officer? (directed toward Officer #4)
Officer #4: You better stop runnin your mouth or the other officer will
find a reason to lock you up tonight.
(Audio can now be heard again)
3:22
Brett: You're saying you're going to make up a reason to arrest me?
Officer #4: No I didn't. I said we would find a reason.
Brett: Okay. I just want to let you know all of this is being recorded.
Officer #4: That's good, we're recording it too. Do what he tells you to
do--
Brett: I don't have a right to talk right here in a normal voice?
Officer #4: Yes you do.
Brett: You're saying I'm going to be arrested.
Officer #4: I'm just saying...
Brett: You just said you‘re going to find a reason to lock me up.
Officer #4: I said do what he telld you to do.
Brett: You said if I keep runnin my mouth, I will be locked up.
Officer #4: I said he'll find a reason.
Why are you going to find a reason to lock me up when I'm only asking
why I'm being detained in a normal voice?
Officer #4: Do what he tells you to do.
Brett: Am I being detained?
Officer #4: Yes you are!
Brett: May I leave?
Officer #4: No, you may not.
Brett: Why am I being detained?
Officer #4: Because you don't have a driver's license.
Brett: I do have a driver's license. I gave it to the other officer.
Officer #4: When the other officer comes back--When he comes back--When
he comes back you can talk to him about it.
Brett: Why are you saying I don't have my license?
Officer #4: Nineteen years old and you know everything.
Brett: Yes sir.


4:38
Brett: I'm being detained because I didn't tell the officer where I was
going?
Officer #4: I wasn't here, you can talk to him when he comes back.


4:55
Brett: What was your name.
(Officer #4 ignored me)
Brett: Officer how do you spell your last name?
Officer #4: It's right there.
(points to chest, but his name is covered by the traffic safety vest. He
then moves it so I can see.)
Officer #4: Hallquisd.
Brett: H-A-L-L-Q-U-I-S-D?
Officer #4: Yep.


5:09
(I then turn toward the other officer standing by me. Officer #5)
Brett: And what was your name officer?
Officer #5: Schmit.
(Officer #5 then talks to Officer #4 about stopping someone that had his
last name)


8:38
Brett: Are you stopping everybody and getting them out of the car?
Officer #4: You can talk to the other officer (Officer #1) when he comes
back.


10:10
(Officer #1 comes back and hands me my license and insurance card)
Officer #1: Thank you very much. Thank you very much for your time.
Brett: Why exactly was I detained and why did you get me out of the car?
Officer #1: You didn't want to answer my questions.(unsure of the rest
of his comment)
Brett: Where does me having to go have anything to do with a DWI
checkpoint. I don't have the right--
Officer #1: I was trying to have a conversation.
Brett: I didn't want to have a conversation. You stopped me officer in
the middle of the road.
Officer #1: I was trying to have a conversation with you (unsure of the
rest of his comment)
Brett: Do you stop everybody and get everybody out of the car? Or you
did that just to me?
Officer #1: (unsure of audio)
Brett: Is St. Louis County Police going to pay for a new clutch, after
he just killed it here and burnt up my clutch.
Officer #1: Would you like to talk to a supervisor?
Brett: Yes I would.
(Officer #1 goes across the street to get the supervisor.


12:43
(Supervisor comes over)
Supervisor: How you doin?
Brett: Hi.
Supervisor: I'm sergeant (unsure of his name)
Brett: I'm Brett Darrow
Supervisor: Brent?
Brett: Brett.
Supervisor: What's the problem tonight?
Brett: I have a problem because I was stopped here and uhh I offered to
move my vehicle. The officer said I could not move my vehicle to park
it. He told me to leave my keys in the car. I got out. Locked the door.
He took my keys. Uhh. And they attempted to move my car here. They
stalled it a couple of times. Burnt up the clutch. I mean it's all on
tape and video. Now I'm going to have problems with my clutch. Who's
going to pay for that?
Supervisor: How do you know they messed up the clutch?
Brett: I saw it right here. I saw smoke coming off as he tired to take
off. It's a pretty easy way I guess for you guys to get inside a vehicle
on a DWI checkpoint and that's where I have a problem.
Supervisor: Well, DWI checkpoints are authorized.
Brett: I understand they are authorized, but drug checkpoints aren't and
you know when I see a K9 unit over here--
Supervisor: That's not the point.
Brett: Well why would there be a K9 unit?
Supervisor: The dog is part of the police department.
Brett: That just happens to be at a checkpoint. I know, I know you get a
lot of drug busts off DWI checkpoints.
Supervisor: Actually the dog comes out very rarely. He's not walking by
every car.
Brett: Not tonight he's not?
Supervisor: I'm at most of these checkpoints--
Brett: Okay.
Supervisor: And you can't walk the dog by every car. He just physically
can't do it.
Brett: Okay
Supervisor: As far as your clutch--I have no idea what kind of damage
was caused.
Brett: It's obvious it caused some damage. I mean you could see smoke
and he killed my car and I don't know what other problems I'm going to
have from that and if I do have problems, I'm going to be coming to the
St. Louis County Police and I just want to let you know that
tomorrow--this next week--
Supervisor: Do the officers have your name?
Brett: Uhh, I don't know.
Supervisor: Did they give you your ID back?
Brett: They gave me my ID.
Supervisor: Let me copy done your information. The issue obviously is,
how do I know you didn't have clutch problems before because you're not
driving a newer car?
Brett: That's correct.
Supervisor: What year is it?
Brett: It's a 1997.
Supervisor: So it's an older car?
Brett: Yes.
Supervisor: And you didn't have issues with the clutch before?
Brett: No, probably because I've had it replaced recently.
Supervisor: Well if that is an issue that actually does happen, you'll
have to file a complaint with our insurance department.
Brett: Okay
Supervisor: The officers do have a right to..(unsure of audio)
Brett: I understand that, but I don't think they have a right to drive
my vehicle.
Supervisor: Well we can't leave it in traffic.
Brett: Well I offered to pull it over here and the officer declined.
Supervisor: When were conducting an investigation. We can't say, oh you
can drive your car and then that person takes off and runs over someone,
we'd have a problem.
Brett: We'll I'd expect them to pull me off the road originally and not
stop me in the middle of traffic.
Supervisor: Here ya go.
(Hands me my license)
Brett: Okay.
Supervisor: Anything else I can do for you?
Brett: No, I mean I just don't understand why I had to get out of the
car because I didn't want to tell the officer where I was going. I think
that is my own personal business and that has nothing to do with this.
Supervisor: And the officer said because your not telling him where--
Brett: Exactly, that is exactly why he asked me to step out of the car.
Because he asked me where I was going and I told him officer I don't
wish to speak with you about where I'm going tonight and he said get out
of the car.
Supervisor: Okay, I'm sure there was something else besides that.
Brett: That's exactly it and you can bring him over here right now and
actually I would like if you would so we can talk about this.
Supervisor: We're not going to do this on the side of the road.
Brett: Okay, and what was your name?
Supervisor: (Unsure of audio)
Brett: And how do you spell it?
Supervisor: (Unsure of audio)
Brett: May I leave?
Supervisor: Certainly, the officer said you could leave before.


(I get in the car, turn the video toward the officers and then behind me
at the supervisor. I then drive off.)

so what if the guy provoked the police? does it automatically give the police the rights to fabricate charges, and verbally abusing a citizen who hasn't done anything illegal?

Can you imagine a Office Riding your BMW clutch :rant: :rant: . If that was me I know I would be arrested that night for kicking his ass. I thought all office are suppose to know how to drive a manual. ?

:popcorn:

I don't know enough about this story but IMO if you provoke someone in an authority position..don't be shocked when the sh-t hits the fan.

Chris Rock:

"When I'm yelling at a guy that is bigger then me, I know there is a zone I don't go into"

Here's the uncut version of the video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92117793977759

I don't see anything wrong that kid did, and the cop was being a complete ass. The kid did a good job staying cool, too.

I don't know if you were being sarcastic with that post, but in case you weren’t, I don't see absolutely anything wrong with how he handled the situation in that other incident, either, and the cops were totally out of line. He did make a few mistakes there (definitely shouldn't have given them the keys to his car, because by doing so he basically consented to a search), but overall he acted within his rights and was being more respectful to them than I would have.

BTW, I'm not bashing cops; I know quite a few local, State and Federal LEOs and they are all great guys and true professionals while on the job, but a few assholes like those above give them all a bad name.

That was this punk's account... I saw the video from inside his car. The officer did not even come close to riding the clutch. Rev's didn't go over 1500. That was a non-event that was blown WAY out of proportion.

Nope. Not sarcastic at all. Those cops have a tough job and if I roll up to a sobriety checkpoint I comply with simple questions to demonstrate I'm doing the right thing. The question of where he was going at 2:30 wasn't to find out about his personal life. It was to determine if his speech was slurred due to alcohol.

He could have just said he was going home or over to a friend's house. This kid decides he's like to make life hard for the cops and was given due treatment. Please don't fail to recognize that this kid has several similar incidents.

I don't know about you, but I've had none and find it hard to believe he has several before the age of 21. It's very easy to stay out of trouble in St. Louis. It's a nice area. This kid goes looking for it.

I can remember being pulled over for speeding (70 in a 55) and the cop start yelling and giving me a hard time. He claimed that my daughter and friend did not have thier seat belt on.

Yes I was speeding put this cop came on so strong I really hated him when he was done.

I think a lot of cops are professionals and it should be part of the job not to make a minnor situation turn so negative.

blah blah blah

I agree with you, but it's still his right to not answer where he was going, and he shouldn't have been harrased for that. Would I do the same thing? Probably not, and like you, I would have just told them where I was going.

Now, the cop was being an ass right from the start, too. If he wanted to talk to the kid to make sure he wasn't DWI, he should have told him to pull over to the side of the road and step out of his car. That's it. Instead, he demanded him out of the car right in the middle of the road (endangering his own life, the life of the "suspect", and other motorists on the road), demanded his keys, performed an anauthorized entry, unauthorized search (although as I said earlier, since the kid handed him the keys himself, legally it may not have been an unauthorized entry/search, but that's a technicality), etc. Basically, he abused his power to show the kid "who's in charge". That's what I have a problem with.

:yawn: Is that the best you've got?

I believe that was directed at blue.

The cop should have his teeth knocked out, along with being fired, he seems like a real tough guy, we'll see if he gets what is coming to him

After seeing this complete video I DEFINATLY think the cop was way out of line, he was just going off, cops are suppose to keep their cool and be professional in any situation , I have seen other video where suspect are acting crazy and the cops are just cool. This cop was definatly being an ass.

at least someone was paying attention.

Hey, let's all just be glad that

BLUE IS BACK! :rofl:

I lived in the USSR for the half of my life - if the kid did not want to tell the cop where he was going, that is all that the cop needed to know. In his response, the kid established that his speech was not slurred.

If we allow the cops do as they are pleased, taking the given authority overboard, just because they can, we will be in the same pit as the Soviet Union was and we will have no foot to stand on in the matters of human rights and civilized society, and I can't see how we can teach the world democracy lessons, when our own citizens are being tased once they are totally under physical control of 4 cops or charges are being either made up or blown out of proportions... How many of those cases never made it to YouTube or a TV screen??

does anyone here remember the Radio Liberty and Voice of America broadcasts over the SU territory about the police (militia) power abuses and human rights?

I love my new country but I am afraid that I am witnessing a slow move towards the regime that I escaped almost 20 years ago - I have been pulled over in DC area over a dozen times within 2 years (prior to that, only 5 times over 15 year period), and was let go simply because I was able to establish my affiliation with some of the "power agencies". Otherwise, I firmly believe that I would have been inside some US version of GULAG.

Go ahead, prove me wrong, I will only be happy to be wrong... :)

I totally agree. I don't see anything wrong with what the kid did. He has his rights. And so what if its being recorded by the kid. I'm glad it was recorded and I hope more people start doing it. Don't be naive people.Just because someone has a badge on doesnt mean they uphold the law. You'd be surprised to see just how many of these cops break the law on a consistent basis to get what they want. ... I applaud this kid and let this be a lesson to all cops...You're being watched and recorded too so do your job properly....Or get out of the way.

Oh and By the way CGSTL are you a badge in disguise? Or are you close to one? You seem to be the only one on here taking the lawdogs side..Bottom line is this...Cops do not have the right to push this kid around like they did..And I gauruntee the cops didn't follow correct procedure..Whos wrong here? The kid or the cops? Please...its not even a question its the cops..Like I said the badge doesn't mean they are above the law..They are supposed to uphold it properly and if they can't then they should be a bouncer at club if they wanna talk and act like that..i could care less.

To your questions: No and No.

The cops were providing a service to keep drunk drivers off of the streets on a traditionally bad night for drinking. One would think it would be the right thing to do to make their job easier and just chat a few sentences, rather than provoke and distract them for 15 minutes. I have no sympathy for the guy.

PS - The cop he provoked in his previous cop-setup (in the parking lot) was fired yesterday.