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Wagner 11-13-2007 10:27 PM

Yet another useless hybrid....
 
...Cadillac Escalade...wow under 20MPG hybrid...go Team!!

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http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/11/13...cing-revealed/

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Early details on the 2009 Cadillac Escalade Hybrid leaked onto the web yesterday morning, and you can read Damon's early rundown on the essentials here. Now that Cadillac has released the full info and tech specs, we can break it down pretty simply. The Cadillac Escalade Hybrid uses the exact same 2-Mode hybrid powertrain as both the Yukon and Tahoe hybrids. Unlike its platform cousins, however, the Escalade does not incorporate any weight-saving measures. It does incorporate Hybrid badges in the fender vents and "H" logos by the rear windows. We're assuming (and hoping) the giant "H Y B R I D" door decals are to make the display car stand out on the floor at the auto show down in Miami this week.

We talked to a Caddy rep who told us that the decision was made not to diminish the Escalade in any way, so the seats retain all their stuffing, the front end gets no aero tweaks, and the bodywork doesn't get any lightweight elements like the Chevy and GMC trucks. Now, according to GM, the use of the hybrid system increases fuel economy by at least 50% anyway. If you figure that the standard 6.2L Escalade is good for 9 or 10 real-world MPG combined, it should be good for at least 18 mpg or so on the highway. We doubt it'll match the 21/22 (2WD) and 20/20 (4WD) city/hwy EPA ratings of the Tahoe Hybrid simply because the 'Slade outweighs it by 110 pounds in 2WD form and 181 when equipped with 4WD.

That said, if the Escalade really can actually get mileage in the mid to upper-teens it's an impressive feat, no matter how you look at it. This is a 3-ton truck after all, and we've driven midsize crossovers that struggle to get that kind of fuel economy. Those interested in towing stuff can pull 6,000 lbs with the 2WD truck and 5,700 lbs with the 4WD variant. As for the target audience, it's basically Escalade shoppers willing to pony up an additional premium to use less gas or to simply flash some green cred via the Hybrid badges.

AzNMpower32 11-13-2007 10:36 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, the new "bling" SUV to have. Now in politically correct form!

xnsf 11-13-2007 10:50 PM

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...if the Escalade really can actually get mileage in the mid to upper-teens it's an impressive feat, no matter how you look at it. This is a 3-ton truck after all, and we've driven midsize crossovers that struggle to get that kind of fuel economy.
an impressive feat??? how is this type locomotion that impressive to brag about. something impressive would be cadillac not using cheap chrome plastics everywhere on the body. maybe that will make it gain another .0001 mpg...IMPRESSIVE!

Ishniknork 11-14-2007 01:36 AM

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We talked to a Caddy rep who told us that the decision was made not to diminish the Escalade in any way, so the seats retain all their stuffing, the front end gets no aero tweaks, and the bodywork doesn't get any lightweight elements like the Chevy and GMC trucks.
...sooo, it's just as big, fat, mushy and ugly as it's always been...:rolleyes:

My pet name for them: ESCAPADE! :rofl:

Eric5273 11-14-2007 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
...Cadillac Escalade...wow under 20MPG hybrid...go Team!!

That hybrid makes about as much sense as this:

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/for0529l.jpg

Wagner 11-14-2007 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ishniknork
...sooo, it's just as big, fat, mushy and ugly as it's always been...:rolleyes:

My pet name for them: ESCAPADE! :rofl:

Yup, did nothing intelligent like using composites to replace steel and aluminum, just changed the motor around and put a badge on it. Now the buyer doesn't have to feel 'odd' parked next to a Prius.

Now the Ford Excape Hybrid, is actually that. 34+ MPG.

B-Line 11-14-2007 12:20 PM

as the escalade only gets about 10mpg.. 20mpg is an improvement !!
At least it's a step in the right direction.

primetime 11-14-2007 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B-Line
as the escalade only gets about 10mpg.. 20mpg is an improvement !!
At least it's a step in the right direction.

:iagree: yes it has nearly doubled its gas mileage. I wonder what the price tag difference will be compared to the non Hybrids.

blondboinsd 11-14-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by primetime
:iagree: yes it has nearly doubled its gas mileage. I wonder what the price tag difference will be compared to the non Hybrids.

I like the 'Lade, Always Have, This Hybrid is cool, If they make a Hybrid Platinum Edition I may start drooling! :thumbup:

X5HogTown 11-14-2007 02:12 PM

Looks like BMW will stuffing the same hybrid system into the X6 (and the X5?).

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...113_975898.htm


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