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JCL 09-26-2005 12:43 AM

We've got about 5500 IBM PCs at work, and 1000 Dell, give or take. About 50% are laptops. The one division who opted out of our corporate program for Thinkpads several years ago has had lots of problems, and will move back to Thinkpads now. I don't have any problem with Dell desktops, but the laptops just haven't stood up for us.

We haven't had any issues with the Lenovo change.

Surprised at your Toshiba experience, but perhaps it is the service organization and not the product. I have had great success with Toshiba laptops, but only the professional grade products, not the lighter-built home user laptops that I see around now. Satellite Pros were good. We considered them as being built similar to the old HP calculators, pretty much indestructible.

E61Silver 09-26-2005 12:59 AM

Ibm T43
 
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Originally Posted by Curious Joel
I used to have a Dell laptop before my Toshiba and it was terrible... Maybe Dell has improved since then, though.. We have a Dell desktop and it keeps on going and going and going. I'll look into the IBMs... Thanks, guys!


IBM T43 is the way to go.

I had a HP and it was mess.

Now own two IBMs.

They run perfect, its with the addtional money!

rangerfan 09-26-2005 09:47 AM

I should have my new laptop tomorrow. I bought an Asus Z70Va (refresh). It's the perfect combination of power in a small form factor at a great price.

Most laptops nowadays are only made by a few different companies. Asus makes tons of laptops and they are then sold to other companies, like ABS, who throws on their own logo and resells it. You can get an Asus from lots of online resellers, either preconfigured, or in the 'whitebook' Built On Asus platform. You can add the CPU, RAM, Hard Drive, Optical Drive, Wireless Card and OS on your own, or you can buy it totally preconfigured. You get a warranty on the keyboard, screen, motherboard and chasis, which in a notebook is really all you need since you can replace virtually all of the rest by yourself.

I got my machine decked out to the nines:

2.13 ghz Pentium M
2 GBs Ram
128 mb Radeon X700 gpu
Wireless B/A/G w/ Internal Bluetooth
100 gb hd
DVD/RW

The machine tops the scales at 5.6 pounds, and it has a 15.4" screen. The case is awesome. Just read the reviews and you'll be sold too.

I bought it here.

Check out Notebookforums for more info than you would ever need on every laptop out there!

LeMansX5 09-26-2005 05:13 PM

Saw these ads by Sun's aimed at Dell servers
http://www.sun.com/emrkt/rejected/rh...page_LEres.jpg

http://www.sun.com/emrkt/rejected/index.html

X5RO 09-27-2005 07:14 AM

I am currently looking to get a new laptop. I currently have a dell from 2001. I think the quality of the current dells have gone down. The new dells just seem too frail. I am looking to get a thinkpad. Several of my friends have them and I really like them. You can get a student discount on their website.

How about if you get a thinkpad and a IMAC? I looked at getting a powerbook. However, there are several programs that I cannot run on MAC. If you run virtual pc on a mac you better have enough power and hard drive to run both. If you run virtual pc and windows XP on a mac, you can have the same problems (viruses) as running a PC.

For school, I recommend a pc.

The Big Easy 09-27-2005 07:21 AM

CJ,

I have always stayed with SONY VAIO range right from one of their first models in 1998. Reliable and good worldwide backup for those of us who travel frequently (can accommodate different power sources easily). Also excellent docking stations, with multible USB/s-video/quick releases. Only prob = cost. They are overpriced in my opinion, but they do kick some major booty. And they are gorgeous to look at. One disapointment for me is no backlit keypad.

For Dshelli : SONY = BMW
Dell = Mazda and IBM = Toyota

Cheers,

Chris F. 09-27-2005 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Get a Mac. It runs windows also. XP,2000,98,NT,. Very stable enviornment. Comes with loads of software. Yes it does Microsoft Office and is crossplatfom and network compatible. Support is in your face at all apple stores. Consumer support is wonderful. Yep I'm biased but hey it works for me and has for many years and for all those years I have never had a virus. Why should you consider a Mac? Read on. Like many before me when you get yours you will ask yourself "what took me so long"?
http://www.apple.com/switch/
http://www.apple.com/switch/choose/

Oh yes, I mean Macs are used in EVERY business all over the world :rolleyes: ....it's just like schools using Apples. It completely puts the students at a disadvantage because VERY VERY few companies use Apples products for business use. How do you expect a kid who has only used a Mac in school to figure out Windows in the real world? Macs are nice but Apple has to rev up marketshare before it will go anywhere. I suppose you might be one of those people trying to do so :rofl:

I still say the smartest thing to do is to let Apple market their OS to the PCs....THEN they will gain marketshare (and then we'll figure out OS-X is just like any other OS, its flawed).

LeMansX5 09-27-2005 05:41 PM

Check out the new wide-screen IBM Z seires.

Quicksilver 09-27-2005 11:19 PM

X5RO regarding your statement "If you run virtual pc and windows XP on a mac, you can have the same problems (viruses) as running a PC".

For school, I recommend a pc.[/QUOTE]The truth is. When you run a virtual machine in Virtual PC for Mac, the operating system that is installed on the virtual machine may be vulnerable to attacks by Windows-based viruses if the virtual machine is configured to connect to the Internet directly through Virtual Switch networking. In Virtual Switch networking mode, the Windows operating system directly connects to the Internet. As a result, it may be vulnerable to attacks from Windows-based viruses and other malicious programs.

If the Windows operating system is connecting to the Internet by using Shared Networking, it is in fact connecting through the Macintosh operating system and the Macintosh networking connections. This type of connection can help protect your operating system from network-based virus attacks.

However, your computer may still be vulnerable to virus attacks through e-mail messages. Microsoft recommends that you use an antivirus program to scan all your incoming e-mail messages.

For more information about viruses and what you can do to help protect Windows from them, visit the following Microsoft Web sites:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre.../virus/alerts/ (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tre.../virus/alerts/)

http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/default.asp

Quicksilver 09-27-2005 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris F.
Oh yes, I mean Macs are used in EVERY business all over the world :rolleyes: ....it's just like schools using Apples. It completely puts the students at a disadvantage because VERY VERY few companies use Apples products for business use. How do you expect a kid who has only used a Mac in school to figure out Windows in the real world? Macs are nice but Apple has to rev up marketshare before it will go anywhere. I suppose you might be one of those people trying to do so :rofl:

I still say the smartest thing to do is to let Apple market their OS to the PCs....THEN they will gain marketshare (and then we'll figure out OS-X is just like any other OS, its flawed).

I guess that Microsoft marketshare is what makes Windows the product everyone loves to hate. It's the same marketshare the continues to be plagued by viruses and whatever. Oh I suppose marketshare is important but i'm sure everyone will admit that what ever product you need to get the job done that's what you should use. In fact Macs are in many business not very very few as you state. The real world is the world that we all live in and what we use to accomplish our tasks has nothing to do with your reality or marketshare.

Apple dosn't have to rev up marketshare before it will go anywhere especially if going somewhare means ending up where microsoft is.
I's not about markershare. For computer users it's about ease of use and accomplishing the task at hand with out having to deal with hardware and software issues. Apples accomplishes that much better than Microsoft. Thats why Microsoft is always following Apples lead.

In the final analysis both OS have their place when it comes to getting things done and both deserve careful consideration before a decision is made. Marketshare is irrelevant.


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