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poleposition 05-08-2009 10:05 PM

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blondboinsd 05-08-2009 10:31 PM

Now let's just hope a Semi or ANYTHING larger than a Yaris doesn't hit you...

FSETH 05-08-2009 10:36 PM

Congrats! Sounds like you are into it for sure.

If I may ask, what percentage of the cars total cost did the mods set you back? Lorinser and Brabus can't be cheap.

vinuneuro 05-08-2009 10:45 PM

Congrat. Next up LS1 swap?

RMak 05-09-2009 07:28 AM

That is awesome!! Your smart car looks terrific! Funny thing... my co-worker and I (who also owns an X5) always talk about modding a smart car. I would bet putting a turbo in a smart car will give alot of supercars a run for their money.

Wagner 05-09-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMak (Post 618238)
That is awesome!! Your smart car looks terrific! Funny thing... my co-worker and I (who also owns an X5) always talk about modding a smart car. I would bet putting a turbo in a smart car will give alot of supercars a run for their money.

Yeah because it would be a great idea to take a car like that at high speed :rofl:

Look at the proportions and aerodynamics of that vehicle, there is more than one reason it isn't given high power numbers.

Wheelbase 73.5 inches
Track width front/rear 50.51 inches/54.53 inches
Length 106.1 inches
Width 61.38 inches
Height 60.71 inches


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X5 for example in contrast:

Wheelbase 115 inches
Length 191 inches
Height 69 inches
Width 76 inches


The smart car is a driving brick.

Smart cars are limited to 90mph for a reason :thumbup: It would be an out of control death trap in triple digits without substantial suspension modification, just look at the height of the vehicle as opposed to is wheelbase and size.

RMak 05-09-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagner (Post 618244)
Yeah because it would be a great idea to take a car like that at high speed :rofl:

Look at the proportions and aerodynamics of that vehicle, there is more than one reason it isn't given high power numbers.

Wheelbase 73.5 inches
Track width front/rear 50.51 inches/54.53 inches
Length 106.1 inches
Width 61.38 inches
Height 60.71 inches


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X5 for example in contrast:

Wheelbase 115 inches
Length 191 inches
Height 69 inches
Width 76 inches


The smart car is a driving brick.

Smart cars are limited to 90mph for a reason :thumbup: It would be an out of control death trap in triple digits without substantial suspension modification, just look at the height of the vehicle as opposed to is wheelbase and size.


C'mon... lower it, throw on a widebody kit... You never know. Plus we are in the US... getting to 90mph is all you need. :D

Plus here in NY, we have retards that race at the stoplight up to 40mph before they hit another traffic light. :p::rofl::confused::dunno::cool:

NOVAX5 05-09-2009 10:12 AM

Wow, if you have time and money to mod a Smart Car. I think you would do a lot better modding other cars of yours. Congrats. No one ever says Smart car is a sport car or a performance car, why the heck did someone compare Smart with the X5? You still decorate your house even you know its a 1,500 sf rambler which can't withstand the storm like most of the bigger and newer houses can right?

jst2878 05-09-2009 10:45 AM

all you need now is a hayabusa motor and you'll be running low 12's. look on youtube for the smart car ferrari race

RMak 05-09-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jst2878 (Post 618275)
all you need now is a hayabusa motor and you'll be running low 12's. look on youtube for the smart car ferrari race

I've seen that video... The smart car smokes the Ferrari. :rofl:

X5Dawg 05-09-2009 11:40 PM

Dude, think how fast this thing will roll end over end!!!

rayxi 05-10-2009 01:21 AM

When are you going to do the mod that allows you to attach 2 golf bags to the back?

Weasel 05-10-2009 02:44 AM

You need an exoskeleton roll cage on that thing like the rock crawler jeeps, but then you would need that 'busa motor to move her.

X5rolls 05-10-2009 08:33 AM

It looks like really nice work - excellent theme

I just don't get Smart Cars though.

themoth 05-11-2009 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayxi (Post 618514)
When are you going to do the mod that allows you to attach 2 golf bags to the back?

lol, thats all i would use this car for...

J.Belknap 05-11-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jst2878 (Post 618275)
hayabusa motor

yes yes yes.

FSETH 05-11-2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 618906)
Lets just hope a semi doesnt hit any of us. And this car gets the IIHS highest safety rating. Daimler engineered this thing quite well and I feel extremely safe in it. Thx for your concern though.

I agree. Lets hope none of us are hit by a semi.

You have to remember that those crash test results were into a solid barrier. In real world crashes where the Smart is typically outweighed by just about everything on the road with 4 wheels it does not rate so well.

Here is an example of the IIHS crashing a Smart and an MB C class;

Mercedes C class versus Smart Fortwo: After striking the front of the C class, the Smart went airborne and turned around 450 degrees. This contributed to excessive movement of the dummy during rebound — a dramatic indication of the Smart's poor performance but not the only one. There was extensive intrusion into the space around the dummy from head to feet. The instrument panel moved up and toward the dummy. The steering wheel was displaced upward. Multiple measures of injury likelihood, including those on the dummy's head, were poor, as were measures on both legs.
"The Smart is the smallest car we tested, so it's not surprising that its performance looked worse than the Fit's. Still both fall into the poor category, and it's hard to distinguish between poor and poorer," Lund says. "In both the Smart and Fit, occupants would be subject to high injury risk in crashes with heavier cars." In contrast, the C class held up well, with little to no intrusion into the occupant compartment. Nearly all measures of injury likelihood were in the good range.

Here is the whole article on micro car safety.

IIHS news release

ravenheart 05-11-2009 10:35 AM

Wow - talk about a 'glass-half-empty' crowd ... someone does some cool mods on a very cool car, and all you people can get out of that is rant about the safety? Just because we all drive a momsy girls-car of an SUV doesnt mean we have to behave like it.

Anyways - keep up the good work, poleposition :) I wish I had the talent and money to do a car like that :)

StanF18 05-11-2009 10:47 AM

PolePosition,

I see in your sig that you have an E70 4.8, so you're obviously a well-rounded driver and not "married" to the Smart car cult! :thumbup:
Just wanted to point that out for the benefit of the other readers who our out to crucify the Smart.

The important thing is that you're having fun with your modding, and I think it looks very clean and tasteful. No ghetto or "ricer" feel to these mods, very nicely done.:thumbup:

As for safety, it's a "relative" concept, and everyone has a different threshold for what is safe. I, personally, would not "feel" safe in the Smart nor would I want my loved ones driving in it. It would simply come out on the losing end to 90% of the vehicles on American roads. But if one is goint to preach about safety, then motorcycles are a more obvious problem. I'd rather be enveloped in the Smart's safety cage (however small it may be) than have no safety cage at all. A helmet and leather jacket aren't going to pass an IIHS frontal offset test!

motordavid 05-11-2009 11:09 AM

poleposition,
Pretty well done, imo...looks pretty titz for a midgey car.

I rolled by one the other day on I-40, (I was riding my
GoldWing), and I think my GW is longer, :D.

Considerable dough spent, I would bet, but everyone
has their own bag.
GL,mD

alewifebp 05-11-2009 10:44 PM

I find the Smart cars to be kind of "cute" if you will, and given your stated purpose, a Smart makes some sense. And I never really knew that there would be such a wide variety of mods available, and I do commend you on a great job!

Still, if I were to need a small runabout car, I'd most certainly get a Honda Fit. About the same price, usable back seat and storage. If places like train stations and the like started to offer parking specifically made for micro cars like the Smart, and with lower parking fees since you are only taking up half a spot, the Smart car value proposition increases greatly.

iop9000 05-11-2009 10:59 PM

hey, i like the Black steel bumper spikes the most, where'dya got them?

rayxi 05-11-2009 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 618952)
Thats it! None of you are getting a ride in my Smart car. :nanana:

:rofl: How many of us do you think could fit in your Smart car?

asawadude 05-11-2009 11:37 PM

Nice ride, but you should have built a highboy.

http://www.automopedia.org/wp-conten.../smart-mod.jpg

UCrewX5 05-12-2009 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by asawadude (Post 619186)
Nice ride, but you should have built a highboy.

Or perhaps some of these variations:

(1) Smorvette
(2) Smerrari
(3) Smamborghini
(4) Smorche
(5) Smorche Targa
(6) Smaudi A3

Weasel 05-12-2009 01:00 PM

Damn, those all look hilariously awesome! I'd rock one of those! (especially if they made an X5 or X6 version!)

B-Line 05-12-2009 03:53 PM

Sorry, would like to get behind those mods but the Smart does absolutely nothing for me.

Why not just get a Mini Cooper S? Mod the shit out of that thing.

Thunder22 05-12-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 619418)
Because a mini cooper S is $35K and I paid $13,500 out the door for this thing. Get it now?

nope.

Quicksilver 05-12-2009 07:05 PM

I get it.

A 1.5 mile trip to the train station every morning?
Make perfect sense to me. Enjoy the mods
and have fun...........:thumbup::thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 619418)
Because a mini cooper S is $35K and I paid $13,500 out the door for this thing. Get it now?


B-Line 05-12-2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gresch (Post 619426)
nope.

:iagree:

If cost is so much an issue than why throw all that money away on mods.. You could have easily found a nice, preowned, Mini Cooper S with some miles for that price.

NOVAX5 05-13-2009 02:13 AM

stop saying "nope"

StanF18 05-13-2009 10:37 AM

Can't decide between the Smorvette and the Smamborghini, they both look so smadorable.

Poleposition, don't let anyone rain on your parade, I like what you've done.:thumbup:

generx 05-13-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 618298)
Did that already. No car goes untouched. Its a sickness

I totally understand. Next I'm probably going to mod my moped which I use to go to the mailbox. That thing looks like it would be soooo fun to drive. For short trips and for running around, why not?

This video may be why people are scared of the Smart car, check out the Mercedes emblem flying like a Ninja star:

YouTube - IIHS Crash Test Of Mercedes C300 Versus Smart ForTwo

Wayne's World 05-13-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMak (Post 618238)
That is awesome!! Your smart car looks terrific! Funny thing... my co-worker and I (who also owns an X5) always talk about modding a smart car. I would bet putting a turbo in a smart car will give alot of supercars a run for their money.


I JUST said the same thing no longer than 15 mins ago to another co-worker. I work for 'kgb'. Not sure if you've seen the commercials. If you've seen them - I was staring out the office window looking at a parking lot full of them.

asawadude 05-13-2009 02:44 PM

That Smorsche Targa (Carrerra GT) would be perfect for picking up some "yippie yi yay - mini sirloin burgers". :D

Quicksilver 05-13-2009 03:08 PM

Do it;

Thinks of all the fun folks will have checking it out.
And asking for rides..................:rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 619752)
Maybe I'll bring the smart to the June 6th meet instead of the X. :nanana: That'll really piss some of you off. :D: The audacity of me to drive that thing to CT all the way from Long Island. :driver:


Michelle 05-13-2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 619752)
Maybe I'll bring the smart to the June 6th meet instead of the X. :nanana: That'll really piss some of you off. :D: The audacity of me to drive that thing to CT all the way from Long Island. :driver:

Have your wife drive the X, too! I really wanna see it!

B-Line 05-13-2009 03:21 PM

I don't think your smart pisses anyone off. I just don't think they appeal widely to the American audience.
And while I do understand why some people may get them for cost reasons, fuel economy, etc. What I don't understand is why anyone would mod one.

But again, to each their own.. Enjoy your car.

B-Line 05-13-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 619807)
Because I can

Whatever makes you happy..

:)

tijanaw 05-13-2009 09:04 PM

Tasteful mods, I love the outcome:thumbup:!

C's Bimmer 05-19-2009 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Line (Post 619535)
:iagree:

If cost is so much an issue than why throw all that money away on mods.. You could have easily found a nice, preowned, Mini Cooper S with some miles for that price.

Pre-Owned? Ah, no thanks. Nope!

C's Bimmer 05-19-2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenheart (Post 618941)
Wow - talk about a 'glass-half-empty' crowd ... someone does some cool mods on a very cool car, and all you people can get out of that is rant about the safety? Just because we all drive a momsy girls-car of an SUV doesnt mean we have to behave like it.

Anyways - keep up the good work, poleposition :) I wish I had the talent and money to do a car like that :)

Couldn't agree more. What a bunch of pansies we have on this forum. I can't stop laughing at some of these ridiculous comments. :bustingup

E61Silver 05-19-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Line (Post 619391)
Sorry, would like to get behind those mods but the Smart does absolutely nothing for me.

Why not just get a Mini Cooper S? Mod the shit out of that thing.

:iagree:

The smart car crash zone is where you put your legs.:rolleyes:

Intel55 05-19-2009 12:44 PM

I think the car looks great and is very tastefully done.

However, I would never have done that to a smart car, especially one just going to a from a train station. Tint and debadging, sure, but everything I would have been left alone. IMO.

In the city those smart cares are great, outside of the city, make sure you have good medical and/or your will up to date.

:stickpoke

FSETH 05-19-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C's Bimmer (Post 621877)
Pre-Owned? Ah, no thanks. Nope!

You would rather drive a brand new Smart than a pre-owned Mini Cooper S? Now that is funny. :rofl:

C's Bimmer 05-19-2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FSETH (Post 621957)
You would rather drive a brand new Smart than a pre-owned Mini Cooper S? Now that is funny. :rofl:

1) I don't buy used.

2) You may have missed this in this thread, but this car is only used to take him to and from the train station, which is 1.5 miles from his house. Essentially, it's his "train station car". He also owns a 550 and a X5 4.8. That said, owning this Smart purely for this sole purpose makes sense. It's economical and allows him to mod the car to his liking without breaking the bank. Paying $13K for a new car, as opposed to a used car, with the same purpose in mind makes sense to me, but then again, what do I know...

amacman 05-19-2009 01:25 PM

more money than sense
walk , bicycle , cab , roller skate .

FSETH 05-19-2009 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C's Bimmer (Post 621961)
1) I don't buy used.

2) You may have missed this in this thread, but this car is only used to take him to and from the train station, which is 1.5 miles from his house. Essentially, it's his "train station car". He also owns a 550 and a X5 4.8. That said, owning this Smart purely for this sole purpose makes sense. It's economical and allows him to mod the car to his liking without breaking the bank. Paying $13K for a new car, as opposed to a used car, with the same purpose in mind makes sense to me, but then again, what do I know...

I get why the Smart meets the OP's needs. That wasn't my point. I just found it funny that you would be so quick to dismiss a Cooper S just because it was pre-owned. Just thought it was funny. You're whole comment about "pre-owned? Ah, no thanks", made me laugh. That's all.

C's Bimmer 05-19-2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacman (Post 621966)
more money than sense
walk , bicycle , cab , roller skate .

Easier said than done. With a suit and tie on each day, this doesn't make sense for my commute. Not sure about his... However, I know with the heat and humidity to the cold, wet, icy weather we experience in Long Island throughout the year, I would not want to walk or bike that route to the train station each day. 1.5 miles might not seem like a far hike, but at the crack of dawn and/or late at night, it's not ideal.

But hey, I never considered roller skating to the train station!

Hey Poleposition - Go buy yourself some roller skates with orange wheels and ditch that Smart! :rofl::bustingup:bustingup

C's Bimmer 05-19-2009 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FSETH (Post 621970)
You're whole comment about "pre-owned? Ah, no thanks", made me laugh. That's all.

:thumbup:

UCrewX5 05-19-2009 01:48 PM

Personally I like what you have done to the Smart. But it is really all about what you like. Thanks for sharing with us your mods to the Smart!

JCL 05-19-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCrewX5 (Post 621984)
Personally I like what you have done to the Smart. But it is really all about what you like. Thanks for sharing with us your mods to the Smart!

:iagree:

Poleposition:

Many on here are fixated on SUVs and vehicles that size, so it is somewhat predictable that some would diss the Smart. Personally, I think it is a very logical vehicle for 2 km to a train station. I get everything except the spikes on the bumper.

I see posts on this board about blacking out head and tail lights, and tinting windows forward of the B pillar, so I have some trouble taking negative safety comments about a Smart seriously.

I completely understand your comments on the 328. I drove a Morgan when I lived in the UK. No way was it a safe vehicle, compared with my Passat or Focus. However, I didn't lose sleep over it, I enjoyed it for what it was.

True motorheads are not fixated on a brand or model, they simply like cars of all shapes and sizes.

AzX5 05-19-2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOVAX5 (Post 619579)
stop saying "nope"

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...ts_01/nope.jpg
:noadd:

Quicksilver 05-19-2009 05:25 PM

There are over 45,000 member on this site.
I wouldn't let what a few have to say dissuade
you from hanging out.

The various opinions you see are nothing more
than spirited "OPINIONS" and if your put off
by it then you may be missing all the fun. :D




Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 621986)
Thx for the compliment I think. As far as the safety aspect of it, better I drive a moped or motorcycle to the train right? Much safer. I wonder if any of you would zone in on the safety or lack thereof if I posted pics of my 1989 Ferrari 328 GTB. That car is beautiful to look at and drive but is nowhere NEAR as safe as the Smart. If I posted pics of that in a thread and said, hey check out my weekend car, would everybody flame me for driving it because it's not as safe as our X5's? Would I see comments like, geez hope you dont get hit by a truck in THAT thing? I appreciate everyone's concern about my safety and my insurance policies and my will being in order but rest assured, I certainly wont be contributing to this lounge anymore. The small mindedness of some members is something i choose not to be associated with. There are other boards I am proud to be a member of. They welcome well rounded members who not only share their passion for the vehicle the board is based on but they appreciate the thoughts and ideas and interpretations that go into other vehicles in ones lineup. Right about now, this isnt one of those boards.

To those who get it :thumbup: To the rest, Im sorry for you. :(


Thunder22 05-19-2009 05:47 PM

This is an internet forum, I feel sorry for YOU if you expect to have everyone always agree with everything you do. It's a bit myopic don't you think?

E61Silver 05-19-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCrewX5 (Post 621984)
Personally I like what you have done to the Smart. But it is really all about what you like. Thanks for sharing with us your mods to the Smart!

:iagree:

I think the Mods look good and are tasteful just don't like Smart Cars.

I understand your limit use of the Smart Car and if you are happy with it great, that's all that matters.:thumbup:

Wagner 05-19-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 622060)
There are over 45,000 member on this site.
I wouldn't let what a few have to say dissuade
you from hanging out.

The various opinions you see are nothing more
than spirited "OPINIONS" and if your put off
by it then you may be missing all the fun. :D

There might be 45K registered, but how many are vocal or participants :)

TaMbALoLoNg 05-19-2009 06:05 PM

http://www.golfcartlimo.com/images/i...ndex_thumb.jpg
This should be your next mod project...

Thunder22 05-19-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 622139)
Hey gresch, hopefully you can make it to the meet on June 6th. Maybe we can cruise together from LI. You seem like someone I should meet :dunno:

:yawn: relax. I'm not questioning you buying a smart car, if i was still on LI and was driving to the LIRR every day, I'ld probably get one myself. So I disagree about modding it, so what... why do you care?

Thunder22 05-19-2009 11:08 PM

Maybe this will explain it... I don't "get" why people do this either....

Custom Two Wheeler Chopper Bicycle - Hell's Belle -- Lowrider Bicycle

It doesn't mean that I can't appreciate it, it's just not something I would do.

All better now? :rolleyes:

alewifebp 05-19-2009 11:54 PM

Like I said before, I get it, but then again, I don't. For the simple purpose you stated, it makes a lot of sense on the outset. And certainly if the train station had special minicar parking that was closer to the platform, it would be an even better proposition. However, my only points are two. First, as I said earlier, I would have purchased a Honda Fit instead (IMHO). About the same price and more usable space, and it is still a fun car to drive. However, in this very limited view for what you are using the car for, a used Honda Civic would have certainly made more financial sense, and would certainly last a long time, and is modable if you so desire.

However, I also said that the mods were very tastefully done, and even though I don't mod my cars all that much, I "get" how you have the modding bug, which is perfectly fine.

Thunder22 05-20-2009 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 622319)
I dont :wavey:



You certainly dont come across as one who can appreciate. I would still love to aquaint myself with you. You seem to have an exciting, unique and interesting stable of cars. We obviously have that in common. You're obviously an extremely well spoken, thoughtful, intellectual person. We seem to have that in common too. You're just the sort of person I choose to surround myself with. Looking forward to meeting you at your friend Michelle's event. I can never have too many friends with your kind of qualifications.

All better now? :rolleyes:



Thanks for the invite, but I'm straight.

:thumbup:

Thunder22 05-20-2009 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 622319)
I dont :wavey:


Your actions contradict your words.


BTW- What part of the South Shore do you live on?

Thunder22 05-20-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 622357)
Just as I suspected. Busy that day huh? :dunno:

Wonderful, just what the world needs, another Internet tough guy.

Should we get right into this? throw around how tough each of us are? what branch of the military trained us in hand to hand combat? how many guns we own? our tough guy heritages? How much we can bench ?

Maybe your next mod should be increasing your intelligence.

Thunder22 05-20-2009 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poleposition (Post 622363)
Thats me. You got me. You've discovered my M.O.

Admitting it is the first step to recovery... good for you.

C's Bimmer 05-20-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gresch (Post 622362)

Maybe your next mod should be increasing your intelligence.

Actually, I was thinking you should be concerned about this too. Pretty pathetic.

Wagner 05-20-2009 11:33 AM

When did this all go down the 'turlet'?

generx 05-20-2009 11:56 AM

:popcorn:

Michelle 05-20-2009 12:03 PM

Hey Blue -- Care to give a reason why you reported this post other than...

"This post is bad !"

E61Silver 05-20-2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle (Post 622450)
Hey Blue -- Care to give a reason why you reported this post other than...

"This post is bad !"

The posts are becoming personnel and insulting.

To quote Wagner "When did this all go down the 'turlet'?

Quicksilver 05-20-2009 01:30 PM

I don't have a clue how many members are vocal or participants.
But I do believe there are enough people involved that can
offer differing opinions rather than the one sided impression
poleposition or anyone for that matter believe exist on this site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagner (Post 622076)
There might be 45K registered, but how many are vocal or participants :)


amacman 05-20-2009 01:40 PM

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i suppose the smart is no more ridiculous than these .
maybe the flower pots compensate for carbon emissions ,
or you could drive around in your mini office .:thumbup:

Thunder22 05-27-2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 622454)
The posts are becoming personnel and insulting.

To quote Wagner "When did this all go down the 'turlet'?

The discussion has nothing to do with you, so why are you getting involved?

That question is rhetorical btw.

Mind your own business please.

Bimmer4125 05-27-2009 06:48 PM

I like the customized Smart. It was tastefully and professionally done and is far nicer looking than many silly pimped rides I have seen. I think the OP should be proud of what he's accomplished with a rather unusual vehicle.

And I wish mommy and daddy would stop fighting on this post.


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