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Kewl X5 10-06-2009 02:11 PM

Just curious, how true is this--"There's a map for this..."
 
Verizon removes gloves, begins 'There's a map for that' anti-AT&T ad campaign (video)


I understand that AT&T 3G service is very quick, even quicker than any CDMA EV-DO Rev A phone...but, that is if you can get 3G service for AT&T phones.

However, Verizon has a bunch of older outdated phones...except for their new Google phones finally coming to Verizon.

Is the AT&T map misleading or even an old map??:popcorn:

Quicksilver 10-06-2009 06:39 PM

Depends on who you ask?
I believe this is recent.

http://www.xti9.com/att/att3gfull.gif

But then so is this one.

http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2519/64/

Kewl X5 10-06-2009 06:44 PM

I compared your map and Verizon's AT&T map and it looks to be the same. :wow:

However, I remember having 3G on my smartphone since 2006 and my friends on Verizon even had it about a year before that. AT&T's map looks like Verizon's 3G map from 3 years ago...

AT&T need to start building up those 3G towers or are they getting ready for 4G LTE? Heard Verizon is already working on 4G LTE towers already.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 667090)
Depends on who you ask?
I believe this is recent.

http://www.xti9.com/att/att3gfull.gif


Quicksilver 10-06-2009 07:02 PM

Not news to you I know but
No-matter how much chest thumping
any of them do none of them are worth a
quarter if they don't work where you need
them to work even if the map say's it will.

Personally I'm still blown away by Nextel
direct connect. From San francisco to brazil
in an instant, clear as a bell......:thumbup:

Meiac09 10-07-2009 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 667099)
Personally I'm still blown away by Nextel
direct connect. From San francisco to brazil
in an instant, clear as a bell......:thumbup:

HAHA we had that in 1998, and it cut out halfway up our driveway in Greater Boston EVERY TIME.

AT&T 3G is not bad, try Europe. I had to look up what the little O meant on my iPhone (GPRS) and why the hell I was getting it in Paris.

Quicksilver 11-03-2009 05:49 PM

Not so fast say's AT&T

AT&T sues Verizon over 'there's a map for that' ads

AzNMpower32 11-03-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 676431)

Totally saw a lawsuit coming. It's America after all.

Thunder22 11-03-2009 06:35 PM

AT&T is ridiculous. The map clearly says 3G vs 3G. Not 3g vs 2G. Not no coverage vs 3G.

It's only misleading to AT&T's legal dept and those who need a RIF class.

Kewl X5 11-03-2009 06:45 PM

But I believe Verizon is correct to state that the blank area in AT&T's map is NO 3G coverage. The Map shows 3G vs. 3G, not 3G vs. Edge 2.5G+3G.

However, AT&T is losing market share because of their smaller 3G coverage and not because of some Verizon ad. Now, what AT&T needs to do is plan for the future and push for 4G LTE coverage nationwide and they will have the upper hand over Verizon.

Quicksilver 11-03-2009 10:05 PM

Legal wrangling at it's best........;)

AT&T even says it has "no quarrel with Verizon advertising its larger 3G network.
Verizon's already changed the ads once at AT&T's behest, editing them to remove the
phrase "out of touch" and adding a "Voice and data services available outside of 3G areas"
small print disclaimer at the end. Apparently that wasn't enough for AT&T, which says the ads still confuse
non-technical viewers into thinking AT&T provides no service at all outside of its 3G coverage.

But AT&T may have a point when they say "the ads still confuse
non-technical viewers into thinking AT&T provides no service at all outside of its 3G coverage.

FSETH 11-03-2009 10:34 PM

If the iphone becomes available for Verizon, it will be game over. That is the major thing keeping AT&T sales up. Verizon is much better as far as national coverage is concerned. It would be great if you could could pair AT&T phones with Verizon's network.

MrLabGuy 11-04-2009 09:38 AM

I'm not exaggerating when I say about 75% of my calls are dropped on the AT&T network. That has gone up significantly since the addition of SMS photo texting. We have a rule among AT&T users that who ever initiated the call calls back when the call is dropped. That way we are not continuing to call each other back getting voice mail when the call has dropped.

When I first made the rule people laughed but now think it is a good idea because it happens so much. I even tell people on lan lines or other networks because I know the call will drop on my end. I love my iPhone but I often think of leaving due to the poor service.

I'm in the San Francisco area and calls in peak times 5-6pm drop about 95% of the time after a minute or so.

sleepless 11-04-2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy (Post 676658)
I'm not exaggerating when I say about 75% of my calls are dropped on the AT&T network. That has gone up significantly since the addition of SMS photo texting. We have a rule among AT&T users that who ever initiated the call calls back when the call is dropped. That way we are not continuing to call each other back getting voice mail when the call has dropped.

When I first made the rule people laughed but now think it is a good idea because it happens so much. I even tell people on lan lines or other networks because I know the call will drop on my end. I love my iPhone but I often think of leaving due to the poor service.

I'm in the San Francisco area and calls in peak times 5-6pm drop about 95% of the time after a minute or so.

Ha Ha .... I like UR method of who calls back when U get dropped !!!! In NYC its about 40-50 % dropped calls !!!!!!

E61Silver 11-10-2009 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy (Post 676658)
I'm not exaggerating when I say about 75% of my calls are dropped on the AT&T network. That has gone up significantly since the addition of SMS photo texting. We have a rule among AT&T users that who ever initiated the call calls back when the call is dropped. That way we are not continuing to call each other back getting voice mail when the call has dropped.

When I first made the rule people laughed but now think it is a good idea because it happens so much. I even tell people on lan lines or other networks because I know the call will drop on my end. I love my iPhone but I often think of leaving due to the poor service.

I'm in the San Francisco area and calls in peak times 5-6pm drop about 95% of the time after a minute or so.


Are you moving in your car when the calls drop?

I have to say that except for a few dead zones I never have a dropped call with Verizon. Verizon does cost more and the phones are not as nice.
They act mostly like the monopoly phone company of the 60's.

Meiac09 11-10-2009 07:29 AM

If you want dropped calls try Sprint. AT&T Works well for me, except in concrete buildings, when all you will get is Verizon. However, I would be paying about $400 per month versus $200 to get equal services with crappier phones with Verizon, so I think I'll pass. You know that Verizon WILL find some way to F*ck up the iphone with their proprietary crap. It also doesn't work overseas which is a no for me.

I've never had problems with dropped calls with AT&T unless im in west moosef*ck Maine, and then I'm pretty sure even Globalsat doesn't work. The only thing that happens from time to time is 5 minutes of it not going at all.

With the crisis there, don't expect anything of the California infrastructure in the next several years.

MrLabGuy 11-10-2009 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 678784)
Are you moving in your car when the calls drop?

I have to say that except for a few dead zones I never have a dropped call with Verizon. Verizon does cost more and the phones are not as nice.
They act mostly like the monopoly phone company of the 60's.

Not always but usually. This really should not be an issue in the San Francisco / San Jose area with overlap. Sure tunnels, remote areas and a few rare occasions of dead areas are expected to drop calls. You expect limitations on the technology; however, these are network overload call drops. Time of day is a major factor and as the popularity of the iPhone grew so did the dropped calls. Then the addition of SMS which was held off for a reason came along and poor service areas became ridiculously poor.

UCrewX5 11-11-2009 01:57 PM

In answer to the original question, turns out that it isn't really true - AppleInsider | AT&T defends its data network from Verizon ad attacks

Thunder22 11-11-2009 02:08 PM

The new commercials with the land of the misfit toys is pretty funny.

Kewl X5 11-12-2009 09:58 PM

Here's Engadget's take on AT&T vs. Verizon:

Editorial: Hey, AT&T -- drop lawsuits, not calls



AT&T responds to Verizon's 3G ad campaign -- by bragging about EDGE

Kewl X5 11-18-2009 08:56 PM

I guess AT&T lost their injunction against Verizon: AT&T loses request for injunction against Verizon's Map for That ads

But, AT&T is not taking this lying down:
AT&T 'hits' back at Verizon's Map for That campaign with an 'ad' of its own

The drama continues!!:popcorn:


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