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JCX5 10-30-2005 08:56 PM

Has anyone else heard this? Hybrids....
 
I read this in either MT or C&D - many firefighters have refused to 'cut' a hybrid when it has been in a bad accident for fear of electricution. Any truth to this?

Thunder22 10-30-2005 09:25 PM

All High Voltage lines in Hybrids are colored organge so that rescue personnel can see them easier. Also, those lines aren't run in areas where rescue people would normally "cut" into cars.

Fireman have a bigger problem with non-steering wheel mounted airbags deploying on them than they do with getting juiced from a hybrid.

lanbrown 10-31-2005 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gresch
All High Voltage lines in Hybrids are colored organge so that rescue personnel can see them easier. Also, those lines aren't run in areas where rescue people would normally "cut" into cars.

Fireman have a bigger problem with non-steering wheel mounted airbags deploying on them than they do with getting juiced from a hybrid.

That and the voltage in a hybrid is not going to hurt you anyway. It takes 80 volts before you can feel it, I don't know the exact voltage of the electrical system but would venutre to guess it's 48 volts or less.

Quicksilver 10-31-2005 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lanbrown
That and the voltage in a hybrid is not going to hurt you anyway. It takes 80 volts before you can feel it, I don't know the exact voltage of the electrical system but would venutre to guess it's 48 volts or less.

Actually it's not the amount of voltage that kills but the amperage that does the job. A 40 volt telephone voltage can end it for you under the right circumstances.12 Volt auto voltage stored by a capicator can really do a number on ya. But here's a message from road and track.http://tinyurl.com/7bn53 i cannot confirm the accuracy of the article but it should shed some light on the issue.

hellcat 10-31-2005 10:38 AM

I am a fireman and have been trained to work on vehicle extrication. The voltage in many Hybrids is 288 volts or higher. These cables are marked in orange for good reason. Many resuce squads choose to cut thorugh the roof to avoid high voltage and side curtain air bags.

Thunder22 10-31-2005 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lanbrown
That and the voltage in a hybrid is not going to hurt you anyway. It takes 80 volts before you can feel it, I don't know the exact voltage of the electrical system but would venutre to guess it's 48 volts or less.


Actually, the voltage in a hybrid ranges from the low 100's to high 600's.

broknlgs24 10-31-2005 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Actually it's not the amount of voltage that kills but the amperage that does the job. A 40 volt telephone voltage can end it for you under the right circumstances.12 Volt auto voltage stored by a capicator can really do a number on ya. But here's a message from road and track.http://tinyurl.com/7bn53 i cannot confirm the accuracy of the article but it should shed some light on the issue.

and that 40 volts ur talking about is when the phone is not ringing.
Ringing voltage can be as high as 150 volts. trust me, as a former Tech w/ Verizon, it's plenty to give u quite a shock. :scared:

Thunder22 10-31-2005 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by broknlgs24
and that 40 volts ur talking about is when the phone is not ringing.
Ringing voltage can be as high as 150 volts. trust me, as a former Tech w/ Verizon, it's plenty to give u quite a shock. :scared:


Note to self: When stripping phone wire with teeth, disconnect other end prior.

I was punching down a pots line in our data center to move it to a new location and the friggin thing RANG.... ever get juiced through your teeth? I don't recommend it, it's painful.

broknlgs24 10-31-2005 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gresch
Not to self: When stripping phone wire with teeth, disconnect other end prior.

I was punching down a pots line in our data center to move it to a new location and the friggin thing RANG.... ever get juiced through your teeth? I don't recommend it, it's painful.

:wow: ouch! i was never that unfortunate. i had my fair share of zaps, but never w/ both wires in my mouth. i must also say, there's nothing quite like being 30+ft in the air during a rain storm and being able to feel the current coming off of the terminal's binding posts. :tsk:

Thunder22 10-31-2005 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by broknlgs24
:wow: ouch! i was never that unfortunate. i had my fair share of zaps, but never w/ both wires in my mouth. i must also say, there's nothing quite like being 30+ft in the air during a rain storm and being able to feel the current coming off of the terminal's binding posts. :tsk:

You've got me beat there... and i'm not unhappy about losing that one at all :)


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