iPhone thread
 

According to Verizon exec, the question is 'when' not 'if'.
Prediction is January 2011 release with over 10 million Verizon iPhone to be sold in 2011 including 1 million AT&T defections.

Apple's Verizon iPhone Will Launch in 2011, Says Analyst - Mobile and Wireless from eWeek

Verizon has been doing dual-mode phones for years starting with a samsung and the blackberry world editions. The costs, however are absolutely atrocious. Even worse than ATT which is a rip off too.

Should we just get the Droid X instead?

Motorola's tricked-out Droid X positioned to be the rage :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Technology

Droid X: Meet the Android phone that could finally take a bite out of Apple - CSMonitor.com

Verizon Wireless to offer Apple iPhone in January
 

I just might wait...."maybe"
What about you???:dunno:

Verizon Wireless to offer Apple iPhone in January - USATODAY.com

Saw that. I would definitely wait if I were in the market now. Verizon is an upgrade from AT&T. My current BB phone is due up for "new every 2" a few months after the intro. May be my next phone.

If Verizon gets it, there is a chance Sprint will also (both are CDMA carriers). If Sprint does get the iPhone, my son will beg to get one. He loves his iPod Touch (essentially the iPhone without the phone radio). He carries both his phone and his iPod everywhere. This would reduce his gear by 50%. :)

The caveat may be the price plan and whatever
Verizon decides to disable on the device.
(They have done this before)
Oh yeah and I forgot, I need to make phone calls from my house....:rolleyes:

I have been waiting for that news. Well since.......since the day I still regret not buying tons of apple stock :rofl: I have never held out so long for anything i wanted. A new personal best for me! My area is a verizon only zone haha nada I can do about it. I do not like the term fanBOY:confused: But I am pretty sure I fit the bill as I have been buying apples since day numero uno. My droid is pretty tits tho. Will be a tough call if they have something killer out as well.

I was thinking the same thing since Apple went to the trouble of developing a CDMA version. I'm on Sprint now and intend to stay. I would probably try an iPhone if it came to Sprint. It would integrate well with my iPad, so long as I could still tether (with a jaibreak, no doubt).

Any word on Sprint getting an iPhone?

It is another prediction, like those that said the I-Phone was coming to Verizon last year.

I hope it is true but I am losing faith.

Very interesting. Wonder if Sprint gets the iPhone whether it'll be the 4 or 3G(S). I am wondering the same thing of the Verizon iPhone.

Gotta be the 4 or what's the point.

Merged thread with one already on this topic.

Waiting patiently for Verizon iphone.:popcorn:

I have played with a Droid recently. It is a good phone... but my iPhone 4 is still easier to use. The iPhone needs no explaining. You just know what to do. The droid wasnt bad, but still not as user friendly as the iPhone.

IMO the iPhone 4 is the king of the hill.

I have a Droid X which is a little big but I just got a Samsung Droid for my wife and it seems great. Yes the interface is not quite as nice as a I Phone but the Droid is very nice and taking market share. I think the Droid is forcing Apple to make nice with Verizon.

I would have to agree with the interface between the iPhone vs Droid X. IMO peeps like the iPhone interface because it has bigger icons/packaging than the DroidX. I actually went with the DroidX because it flowed better. Once, you get used to the DroidX, it is awesome!!!;)

For those waiting for a Verizon iPhone, the wait may not be much longer. Citing a person familiar with Apple's plans "who isn't authorized to discuss them publicly," Bloomberg has been reporting that Apple will "probably" introduce a Verizon iPhone after next week's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. But what's interesting about the latest articles is that analysts are already predicting the number of AT&T customers who will defect to Verizon for its new iPhone.

The estimates range from 1 million to 6 million moving from AT&T to Verizon, though the bulk of sales of a potential Verizon iPhone would still come from current Verizon customers updating their existing phones.

The Bloomberg article quotes John Hodulik, an analyst at UBS AG in New York, who comes in "somewhere in the middle" with his projections, saying 2.3 million would switch from AT&T to pick up a Verizon iPhone. Hodulik expects AT&T would sell 8.8 million iPhones in 2011 (down from 15.6 million in 2010) and that Verizon would sell 13.3 million. Of those 13.3 million, 10 million would go to Verizon subscribers and the rest would come from other carriers.

If indeed Verizon introduces an iPhone later this month, there are still some unknowns that could affect sales. For instance, how much will service plans for a Verizon iPhone cost (typically, Verizon's plans cost more than those of rival carriers), and will the phone offer any new enhancements? Also, despite a lot of AT&T customers being unhappy with that carrier's service, many will be weighing whether to hold out for an improved fifth-generation iPhone that will arrive in June and may support 4G data transmissions. Additionally, AT&T could offer incentives for customers to stick with the company. And finally, perhaps its service will improve as more folks defect to Verizon.



Read more: With Verizon iPhone, how many will flee AT&T? | Crave - CNET

I can't believe that there will be a lot of AT&T iPhone customers defecting to Verizon. It just doesn't make sense.

1. If you have an iPhone 4, you got locked into a 2-year contract with AT&T. No one, like me, is more than 6 months into that contract. The penalties would not make it worthwhile to switch. Even in the NYC metropolitan area, AT&T has improved slightly -- not as good as Verizon but just better.
2. I wouldn't buy a new iPhone now. I would be waiting for June (or so) to buy the iPhone 5.

There will be people who have iPhone 3G or 3GS and have been waiting for iphone on Verizon.

Maybe. But won't the 3GS owners still be locked into their 2-year contracts (from mid-2009 and later)?

My wife has the 3G and it's ridiculously slow (compared to the iPhone 4 or the iPad).

I think people should wait for iPhone 5 before signing any new contacts...

A lot of folks buy their phones on eBay or other places, to avoid long-term contracts with a carrier. My last couple of phones have been that way. In fact, as of this summer, I will have 3 phones/3 lines in my family completely without contactual obligation. That will allow me to have serious leverage with my current carrier, or with another. And no ETF's to worry about.

I have 3GS and I am allowed to upgrade after Feb 2011.

I think people will defect from AT&T if they are unhappy with their reception or other service related issues. Verizon is reputed to have the best reception. As far as contracts go, not everyone with a iPhone 4 is on the hook for two years and some people might be willing to eat the ETF if they see any savings from Verizon (doubtful) or they're just plain sick of AT&T. (I was willing to eat an ETF from Time Warner to switch to Fios for the monthly savings and superior technology.)

If AT&T get an iPhone 5 that supports 4G that would be nice in theory depending on how many markets they actually have 4G coverage and whether they charge a monthly premium to get 4G service as Sprint does currently with their Evo 4G. I'm with Sprint and if I want an Evo 4G I have to pay $10 more a month for 4G service that doesn't exist in my area. It's BS but that's how the cellphone business is these days.

I'm on Verizon and I'm praying that they don't come out with an iphone. The network is very stable and adding 1-3MM iphones is going to be a bandwidth killer.

Seems to me this whole thing has some folks in limbo
so to speak. Some are expecting a new iPhone of some
sort. So folks want to wait and see whats up with that.

People like me have a 3G and can upgrade now but are
not i'm sure they should. Without some solid new information
regarding expected choices, what's the advantage in doing so?
I believe I should at least wait until I can see what Verizon is
offering if in fact they have an iPhone. My guess is that AT&T
may have to sweeten the deal to keep customers no matter
how much they proclaim their new expansion. :dunno:

Both Thunder and Q make valid points. Adding that many users to VZ's network would be felt in metro areas for sure unless they have or will make big infrastructure improvements.

AT&T will definitely try to retain customers. That's just how it goes in the cellphone game. It's crappy that a customer has to threaten to leave before they finally try to make them happy. I know that with Sprint, the only way I can get anything done is to say the word "cancel" and they pass me off to retentions. I learned that their CSRs are trained to do that whenever the word "cancel" is spoken so if you don't want to deal with their lower tier CS, call up, say "hello, I'd like to cancel" as your first words.

iPhone 5 is supposed to have FaceTime on 3G and 4G and not just wifi. Imagine what that will do to their network.
With "Clone Wars" the iPhone has lost some of its exquisiteness(sp?).
Motorola is coming with dual processer with nVidia chip, Droid phone in Q1, which is rumored to be better than iPhone 4.
:popcorn:

It's pretty easy to say that your new phone is better than an iPhone when it hasn't even started shipping yet :). Let's wait to see the battery life etc... on that first shall we. The Blackberry Torch was supposed to be better than an iPhone too, but now they are giving them away ;)

Notice I said "rumored to be". ;) We will see when it comes out.

I know. Rumors are worth exactly what you pay for them, nothing :p:

I think most of us have already seen this about the 4G hype, etc.

T-Mobile Ploy Shows that 4G is Just a Marketing Slogan - PCWorld Business Center

I'm tired of people asking me or telling me about the new iPad that is coming out and it has this and that. The best is when someone asks me if I've heard that there is a new iPad coming out. My response has been something along the lines of "yes, and the sun will come up tomorrow too". :tsk:

The new iWhatever will be out whenever it's out and will be improved in some way. 'Nuf said.

Lets add some fuel to the fire....

The NEW iPhone 5 - Coming July 2011


A few features of iPhone 5:

Thinner! With shiny glass back piece - 9.3 mm thick.

Face Recognition Security

Face Time (Video Chat) access on 3G AND 4G (available currently but only on 3G)

Custom SMS tones

Custom E-mail alerts with ability to assign different tones to each email address

A new, sleeker body design.

OLED screen.

Scratch proof and shatter proof screen

Wireless sync with iTunes

32G (basic) and 64G of memory. You're sure to never run out.

Extended battery life = 14 hours talk time on 3G and 7 hours on 4G. Standby 600 hours.

Hi Definition audio.

Messaging indicator light.

True GPS built in.

Most people simply treat rumor as fact LOL :)

I love rumor predictions that don't even understand "current" capabilities i.e. Face Time does NOT currently work on 3G. Skype does, but not Facetime. It already has "True" GPS built in. "OLED" screen is a BIG stretch. Current manufacturing capabilities cannot even support the production demands of iPhone.

Yeah but they're fun none the less......:rofl:

Very true :)

It might be "Goodbye AT&T... It was nice knowing you!!"

:popcorn: :D Gameover.

I just need to see if Verizon is going to be up to their old tricks
trying to cripple the iPhone like they have with other phones
in the past. And of course there's the price structure. That's why
I said "MIGHT BE".

I just haven't had all the problems others have had with AT&T.
But if coverage is better and there are other benefits then the
maybe may become a reality.

:rofl:

I can't wait for all the AT&T complainers to move to Verizon. My AT&T service should get even better :)

I can tell you that, after having had my iPhone 4 for six months now (with a thin case on), I am VERY happy with the signal strength and do NOT have had any more dropped calls than my Verizon BB has. And this is in the NY Metropolitan area where all reports show that Verizon service is better than AT&T.

I'm even thinking of giving up my work Verizon BB because the iPhone 4 is working so well (and I'm never too far from a PC for email).

I am in the market to buy a used Verizon BB. Let me know.

Unfortunately, I don't own it -- the company does...

VZ stopped crippling features a while ago, my Droid X for example has GPS and what ever APP I choose to download. I am happy with my Droid and will not upgrade for another 10 months.

Tom's Guide said it better than I did and I quote:

"Open question 4: What about the iPhone 5?

Before you run and buy a Verizon iPhone, keep in mind that this is essentially an old phone that will be replaced soon. When the iPhone 5 is released, you will be locked into a 2-year contract with no way to a reasonable upgrade. If you want the new iPhone when it comes out, the upgrade could be rather expensive. The timing for the introduction of the CDMA phone is rather awkward and create a huge mess for Verizon. We know that Apple only cares about itself and will launch a new product when it is ready - not when its partners are ready. AT&T was forced to bend to pressure from its customers when Apple introduced the iPhone 4 at a time when it interfered with the traditional 22-month upgrade cycle and Verizon could see a similar scenario. For all those who can wait half a year, the advice can only be to not buy the Verizon CDMA iPhone, but wait for the iPhone 5, which we should get by mid-2011."

I plan to purchase an iPhone 5 when that appears. Either I'll sell my iPhone 4 or pass it along to my wife... (I am upgrade eligible on AT&T through my wife's iPhone 3G.)

Faster Forward - Liveblog: The Verizon iPhone

Live at Verizon’s iPhone event: iPhone 4 will be available early next month | VentureBeat

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And now the pros and cons.. Apparently it will not allow data and voice at the same time. What Verizon's network can -- and can't -- give iPhone users | Phones | iOS Central | Macworld

11:29AM We missed a few questions... nothing major -- some pricing talk (none of which were really commented on).

Q: Experience is so paramount at Apple... GSM allows data and voice... how does that experience feel here?

Tim: I think people place different emphasis on things -- I can tell you that the number one question I've gotten is when will the iPhone work on Verizon. I couldn't be happier to tell people that. They will make those sorts of tradeoffs.


Live from Verizon's iPhone event -- Engadget

I think those who jump on this immediately will pay the "early adopter tax", and regret it later.

I wonder how much Verizon had to pay Apple to have CDMA exclusivity? Usually, Verizon & Sprint have the same or similar phones, as the two big CDMA carriers. Yet, all the talk seems to be that ATT will continue to be the only GSM provider (in the USA) for the iPhone, and Verizon will own the CDMA side. T-Mobile and Sprint are being kept out even longer, it seems.

:iagree: I wonder why??:dunno: No reason for the exclusion imo.

Verizon iPhone is for people who are on Verizon who want an iPhone. Using voice and data at the same time may be an advantage for some, but not really a killer feature. If your CDMA phone is in an area with wifi, then you can still be using voice and data at the same time. This will be rectified when the Verizon iPhone 5 with LTE comes out this October. ;)

FWIW, I read on Engadget (?) that the deal with Apple and Verizon is NON-EXCLUSIVE so it could be offered to Sprint. The issue with both Verizon and Sprint is the massive cost to the carrier for the purchase of the handsets. Supposedly Verizon will pay about $600 each and as we all know, carriers heavily subsidize the handsets to get users committed to long term contracts.

I am a pretty happy Sprint customer and would be interested in an iPhone if Sprint ever gets them. If they don't, I doubt I will give up my reasonably priced plan to get nickled and dimed by Verizon.

I am in the same boat. I would probably get a Sprint iPhone for my son, who loves his iPod Touch. For myself, I will stick with Blackberry a while longer.

Yup, not "exclusive" ;)

If you know something you'd better call or text me!

If an iPhone came to Sprint I would have to get a couple. Apple is a smart company. They are in the business of making and selling products and making billions. They would make more money selling to more carriers. It can and has been done too. Canada has 5 different carriers that sell iPhones. The only question is whether other carriers can afford it. For Sprint, the other issue is its network technology and whether Apple can and will make a WiMax version for Sprint.

The big winner here are not the consumers. It's Apple.

Technolog - iPhone 4 comparison: Verizon vs. AT&T

IPhone Battle: Verizon vs. AT&T - BusinessWeek

Technolog - Five reasons not to buy the Verizon iPhone ... yet

This thread is entertaining :). I love my Apple stock :D

A new survey every day ;)
AT&T to lose 26% of iPhone owners to Verizon, survey shows - Computerworld

HeyTell App (although a bit slow) works great as a push to talk feature on the iPhone. HeyTell for iPhone, iPod touch (2nd generation), iPod touch (3rd generation), iPod touch (4th generation), and iPad on the iTunes App Store

AT&T Could Lose 16 Percent of Customers to Verizon iPhone

Who you gonna believe :dunno:

There's really some AT&T haters here... :confused:

UCrewX5,

That's pretty funny :)

I hope that AT&T and Verizon don't make their advertizing campaigns too vitriolic but there's obviously a lot of money on the line here. The big winner is Apple (once again...).

The funny part is Letterman making jokes about something
he doesn't know anything about.

I don't know. :confused: He can't seriously be that dumb. He must have been joking.

The funny part is watching people anxiously awaiting a phone that I've had for months. As soon as they get it, I'll be looking forward to IPhone 5 ! For those Verizon fans, my company provides me with a Verizon phone. In San Diego, both of these companies have their respective dead zones. The Club I play golf at only gets ATT, so that's all that matters to me !

You've had an iphone on verizon for months? :confused:

I think he is simply referring to his iPhone 4

I don't want one on Verizon. It wouldn't work at my house.

Just checking.

And there are many who have an iphone where AT&T doesn't work at their houses, or anywhere else for that matter :)

Anywhere else ? I've been to quite a few cities in this great country. Ever carrier has dead spots. But I have yet to be in a city where my IPhone didn't work. But hey, now the phone is available on both networks so maybe archaic technology like Blackberry will finally go out of business.

So why make such a strong point in your earlier post implying that because vzw doesn't work by you that it sucks for everyone and is horrible? Just as you did above regarding bberry? I think we have a case here of "if you don't have what I have, yours sucks" mentality.

Maybe Seth is right, maybe some Tylenol, Vitamin water and a nap would be a good idea for you :)

I find it comical that all you people will be lining up in a frenzy over old news. What's next ? Are you going to announce that you're buying a Blu Ray player, or an HD TV ?? Hilarious.

AT&T consistently ranks in the bottom of most major surveys for call quality, service, etc. Verizon, on the other hand, is always near or at the top. Check out any of the JD Power surveys I have posted in other threads or you can look it up yourself. The availability of the Verizon network is a huge upgrade for the iphone. If you are lucky enough to get good AT&T service where you live and primarily use your phone, more power to you, but there are many, many AT&T subscribers who are not in the same boat.

what are you smoking? seriously.

No, you don't have that iphone. VZ iPhone 4 is different with newer antenna and it does not drop calls when you don't hold "the Steve Jobs way".

Antennas are slightly different, to avoid "grip of death"
Silent button is moved a bit
"Internet tethering" vs. "personal hotspot"
While both phones can be used — at extra service cost — to provide Internet access to your computer, only Verizon's is offering a personal hotspot, enabling not one computer but up to five devices to access the phone's Internet connection, via Wi-Fi.

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LeMansX5,

You've been busy collecting links and pictures :)

There are two things that I like about Verizon getting the iPhone:
1. When the iPhone 5 comes out, I can decide which carrier has the best deal for me. (It might be AT&T because I have the grandfathered in unlimited data plan but I definitely like the personal hotspot.)
2. I work for a large company that has a lot of Verizon Blackberrys and they have been evaluating the iPhone. Maybe my company will switch to the Verizon iPhone or allow that as an option to the Blackberry.

The ATT and VZ cost for a "personal hotspot" is ridiculous. My CFO is moving to one of Sprint's 4G cities and they offer a 4G hotspot like that with unlimited data for something like $60 a month... I think that is a hell of a deal for unlimited 4G, and I'm not going to give up unlimited data and being able to look things up while on the phone for the ability to use my phone in the middle of nowhere. (the only possible advantage I can see in Verizon)

If you Jailbreak you Iphone 4, you can use it as a Hotspot all you want and keep your unlimited Data plan. That's what I did from day one, and have been doing so for months. No need for broadband cards etc.

Look out folks. Here comes Sprint!!!

After Verizon, could Sprint be next to get the iPhone? | BappProducts | iOS Central | Macworld

Oy vey! So it begins anew. At least this time it shouldn't drag out for years like it did with VZ.

I've been following this speculation since the VZ announcement and while I hope Sprint gets the iPhone, how could that be the "impossible, made possible" when it was just made not impossible by VZ? :dunno:

You're saying you jail broke your Iphone 4 on Att and used it as a hotspot, correct? I have thought about that but never followed thru. Any issues? do you still get visual voicemail?

Everything functions perfectly. I jailbroke it the day the software came out. There is an App called MyWi that's $20. It allows me to tether and setup my phone as a Hotspot. Works great. I can also use FaceTime anywhere, not just on Wifi.

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i think there is no need for a special iphone plan.

not sure if or even when you would be able to buy something like this, but you may see these types of devices starting to pop up.

Aren't rumors fun?

Rumor: iPad 2 and iPhone 5 could have powerful GPUs | Macgasm
AppleInsider | Apple to pack ultrafast, dual core SGX543 graphics into iPad 2, iPhone 5

Sprint uses WiMAX, apple isn't gonna build for a third wireless internet architecture.

As the linked article says:

"Sprint operates the same kind of CDMA wireless network that Verizon does, so the same phone would work on Sprint’s network. We also learned from Apple’s Tim Cook during the event yesterday that Verizon does not have an exclusive deal with Apple on the CDMA iPhone. This can only mean that Sprint at least has the option of making the iPhone available to its customers if it wants to."

It's good that it will available on more carriers...maybe now some stop complaining about ATT and move on to something better...

As for me I stick only to GSM because I travel back and forth across the Atlantic.

I'm planning on making the switch, my droid has been less than impressive :-/

How about that? I guess both AT$T and Verizon now think that like the oil companies, people can't live without premium wireless services so they can now charge whatever they want to and get away with it.

Sprint has been charging $10 more for 4G handsets, even if you live in an area that doesn't have 4G coverage. :tsk: Now, Sprint is adding $10 to any smartphone plan. :tsk: :tsk:

They're all feasting on us consumers. What are we going to do? Forgo cellphones altogether? :dunno:

WiMAX is not HSPDA+ (which is LTE) VZ iPhone does neither.

I originally dumped Verizon for T-Mobile in '03 to have international service. Thats a rip off, so now I just use it for the ability to unlock my phone and stick in my SFR or Blau SIM card and have a cheap phone with internet when I'm over there.

My friend called me and started going on about how he's switching, spending $250 for the ETF, etc and that Verizon offered him $200 for his ATT iPhone. I told him I'll give him $201 and I'll flip it so some european for $500 like my last 3GS. I think its all stupid.

I'm on the verge of just getting by without a data plan..... :dunno:

I jumped on this thread to see who was going to get one. After having both a 3G, 3Gs, and now a android......I'm not so sure I will jump for Big Red iPhone. Granted apps are much nicer and having tunes on 1 device .....I think I may hold off.

FWIW, price hikes are just a norm in life. Just like DirectTV and their @#$@ annual yearly price hikes. When my TV bills start reaching $200, I'm going back to rabbit ears ;-) and Hulu/Youtube.

Until consumer vote with their wallet, prices will continue the trend...

It's like the oil companies. Create an artificial shortage, & charge more,
when you need more money. Anywho here's a rate comparison.

AT&T and Verizon iPhone plans compared | Phones | iOS Central | Macworld

my mom actually stayed up till 3am this morning to order two iphones. ohh i cant wait to try and train her how to use it!

Well That didn't last long

"Verizon Wireless customers, your time is up; pencils down, please! As of Thursday evening, Apple and Verizon have both ceased taking preorders for the Verizon iPhone 4.

Apple, Verizon cease taking iPhone 4 preorders | Phones | iOS Central | Macworld

I own VZ stock and it has been all good (20% +/- price appreciation plus a dividend over 3%) Given the recent demand for the I Phone it should continue.

Can't wait to see the demand for the iPhone5 and iPad2 when they launch. :wow:

Verizon on Friday declared that presales of the iPhone 4 exceeded any other launch in the company's history in just the first two hours, though the carrier declined to provide actual sales figures.

"This was an exciting day," said Dan Mead, president and chief executive officer for Verizon Wireless. "In just our first two hours, we had already sold more phones than any first day launch in our history.

AppleInsider | Preorders of Apple's iPhone 4 break Verizon sales record in 2 hours

Gotta love the apple logo and the resale...
Sold my old 3G for around $300 if I recall and I am selling my mint 3GS for $300 today.
Just enough to cover the new Big Red Version..

:dunno: AT&T Announces iPhone 3GS for $49.00 | AT&T

Thats with a 2 year commit...
Generally afaik, it's the guys with Tmobile or guys who refurbs/retweks and sells these things overseas..

Granted the VZW probably won't command a resale like the GSM but sofar, for the last 2 Ipone upgrades, I've never spent more than $50 out of pocket, after selling the old one

I have always sold mine to Europe... I sold my 3G S for $500 after buying the new 4.

I jailbroke and unlocked my 3G to use in France and that worked great. I'm studying in Germany in the fall, but I think this time I'm going to pick up a factory unlocked one in Canada before I leave. They are $650 but I'll sell it over there before I leave for a profit.

Thanks for the update QS! That news is a month old... :stickpoke

I already knew that. I was messing with "chefwong"
cause he left a box unchecked......:rofl:

I Wanna sell my 3G .....Pleeeze :cool:

Oh, OK :)

The latest that I've seen on this is that one can now get a refurbished iPhone 3GS from AT&T for just 1 cent + free shipping. That's a good deal for someone that doesn't need an iPhone 4.

I'll wait for the iPhone 5 and see what's up with that.

so apparently the shipments came in today. My mom texted me saying she got hers, but is scared to open and use it. This will be fun training her on it. ( i have the AT&T iPhone)

I was thinking the same thing but all the rumors are just frustrating me. How much different is it going to be? When is it going to come out? Supposedly it'll be in July but we'll see.

Yup, a guy I saw today was sporting his this morning. I wonder how the pre-sales will go tomorrow. :yikes:

Looks like the detail are coming out. Like the potential to be a world phone.
Verizon iPhone packs 'world mode' chip, revamped antenna | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News

Well.. Verizon has been doing "World" phones with integrated SIM's for years. That way, they can nail you for $1.89 per minute and you really can't unlock it.

Never say never...:D

my verizon iphone is activated and working. I am a life long verizon customer and switched to the iphone from my blackberry. I've only been up for less than 24 hours and offer this as my initial thought. The screen/display is unreal. Looking at the web or pics is SO much better on the iphone over the BB. For casual phone users who often use their phone to exchange pictures with family members the display alone might be reason enough to make the move. Very happy so far.

Just my inital .02.

If u want to sell ur iphone(att) Ebay has a buy back program for Iphone and android phones ( droid x, samsung etc.. )

:thumbup:

Wait till you see how fast (and accurate) your typing can be on the iPhone. I used a BB for years and thought that was the fastest data entry for me. I far prefer "touching" on the iPhone now. The BB gets used very little for work emails now -- only gets used as a work phone.

I noticed that! I do LIKE the touch screen keypad.:thumbup:

UPDATE: (Of extra interest to Quicksilver)

I got home tonight from Verizon with two iPhones. :tsk: I have in. Loving it so far. I'm paying more than I did with Sprint but the difference won't be too much if I factor in what Sprint is do by adding $10 per phone of 4G service even if my area doesn't have 4G. Add Sprint's hugely disappointing direction with the Kyocera Echo and I saw no future with Sprint. I will have to eat a pretty big ETF since I have two lines but that's the price of being cool. :cool:

Verizon: 2

Sprint: 0

Me: Lots of money out of pocket so -10

Glad your please with the device

I'm so behind the times. Still doing the 3G thing and man I don't know what has happened but mine is sooooo slow. I'm hoping that when I do make the leap there will be some serious changes for the better. Did you notice any better call reception in areas where you may have had trouble in the past?

I can't believe you left Sprint! Wow :wow:. Enjoy :)

Do you have iPhone3G or 3GS?

I can't believe U didn't leave sprint Earlier ...... I had sprint for 2 days of service, could not get even 1 bar on the signal from my home .... my friend has the EVO half of the time he is not running on 4G ....

He had an amazing grandfathered contract :)

oh... that make sense .... i think

That was going to be my question as well. The iPhone 3G runs like total crap on the latest Apple iOS, whereas the 3GS and 4 both run on it very nicely.

Yes, I have had a couple of good employee price plans with Sprint. When the iPhone first dropped on AT&T I went in to compare plans and the guy there said there was no way they could even come close to what I was getting with Sprint. The guy at Verizon last night even said they couldn't compete with it.

My coverage was good with Sprint; not perfect but way better than AT&T. I gave in for the iPhone and as I stated, Sprint is really dropping the ball on handsets. They were on the cutting edge for a while with a great selection of smart phones but haven't stepped up. Plus, if I wanted to upgrade to something like the Evo from my older Android handset Sprint was going to add that $10 surcharge for 4G even though there is zero 4G in my area.

So far, we're loving our iPhones. I was talking to SuperGreg a few minutes ago and I told him that while I have always had issues with my HTC handsets (all 6 of them), I have never heard anyone complain about iPhones, whether the original or the 4. Apple is pretty tough to beat.

3G

Yup, very, very slow! The 4 is lightning compared to yours :)

Takes a while for me to get fed up but this slow drag 3G phone
aint gonna last much longer. I'm buying a new iPhone.

Here's a tip Kev, you have a Mac, so go to the Mac App store and download "Ringer". It let's you create free ringtones from your iTunes library for your new iPhones :)

That's the other thing. Some of the new Apps wont work on my 3G and that just won't do.

I will be selling my 3GS as soon as iPhone 5 comes.

Me too :P

Lots of new phones coming out this summer. Blackberry has some surprisingly good ones coming out to again be competitive, the new iPhone will be perhaps smaller & faster, and the Adroid phones continue to impress.

Since my Sprint contract is up in June, I may have lots to decide.

Yep BlackBerry has some good phones coming out.

Blackberry has been improving since their first touch screen disaster known as the Storm. I am looking forward to their tablet device too but no matter how good they get, they are still behind Apple in that the iPhone is so advanced and once someone is in the clutches of Apple, like I am with the iPad and a MacBook, it is very difficult to ignore how well an iPhone integrates. It's quite sickening, actually.

Day 2 with iPhone 4 and digging it.

I have a iPod Touch (essentially an iPhone that cannot make phone calls), and I see the attraction. Over the last several phones, I have gotten used to having a physical keyboard, and find I can't type on a piece of glass quite as well. I use my phone primarily as a messenging device (calls, texts and emails), rather than gaming, GPS, or the other uses. Blackberry's focus has always been messaging, with the other stuff as extra. I get the impression that many other smartphones seem to be focused on the other stuff, more than messaging. Am I wrong?

There is definitely something to be said about a physical keyboard. I had two HTC devices that had slide-out keyboards. They were very nice but I did find that they got temperamental over time. Maybe that's because they were slide-outs and that makes them a bit more prone to issues.

I think you are right that BB has always been more focused on being about business. I guess that's why they were/are the mainstay of many companies. If you want a physical keyboard then the iPhone is not for you but I find that the iPhone virtual KB is excellent; far more accurate and faster than the virtual KB on my HTC devices. You might be surprised. If you had to sit down and do lots of typing you could get a Bluetooth mini KB to go with an iPhone or handset that does not have a physical KB. I have really like the thinner profile of handsets without KB so I sort of forced myself to migrate and now I'm just used to it.

Thanks for the insights, PNG. I guess I will just have to see what is available this summer. The beauty of it is that I will be free to move to another carrier if I want to do so, as well, so my options for new phones will be unlimited.

The HTC Thunberbolt will be out on VZW by month's end, 4G data and simultaneous voice, there are going to be a lot of buyers remorse for VZW iPhone buyers.

Isn't Thunderbolt the same as Sprint Evo 4G? I could have gone to the Evo 4G but three things dissuaded me: Evo 4G is too big a phone to comfortable schlep around all day on my belt or in my pocket, as well as to hold; Sprint adding $10 a month per line for non-existent 4G service in my area; and my (and friends') bad track record with HTC handsets having about a 1 year effective life before they get really buggy and start breaking. Added 4th reason: I am an Apple fanboi. :D (Not really. Love Apple but main computer is a Win7 machine and love it. I enjoy being able to build my own rigs.)

I was talking about Verizon customers so the $10 uptick doesn't apply; it's about the same size as an iPhone; I haven't heard about HTC having issues, they're running Android 2.2 like other manufacturers, I was under the impression that the EVO was a huge seller for Sprint.

Here's a comparison of the EVO and Thunderbolt.

HTC Thunderbolt vs. HTC EVO 4G | Wirefly Learn

Regardless, I was really commenting on the Thunderbolt vs iPhone on VZW, it's a whole different situation on Sprint.

The Thunderbolt looks to be virtually the same as the Evo 4G except it has more RAM and more storage space built in. It's the same size as the 4G with a nice but overly large screen. Friends with the Evo 4G aren't getting great battery life so the T-Bolt's smaller capacity battery might be a negative.

The Evo has been a great seller for Sprint but then again, there isn't that much to choose from. The alternative for Sprint would be the Samsung Galaxy S, which is supposedly the best iteration of the Galaxy series. I liked the possibility of this handset because it has a full slide-out keyboard and the AMOLED display is really nice but it's a bit of a chunk in an age when thin is in.

I actually doubt there will be any buyer's remorse from recent VZ iPhone adopters like me. Price plans are the same (except the $3 a month visual VM feature is included with the iPhone) so that won't make anyone regret going with VZ. It seems to me that some people will want the larger screen of the T-Bolt or they might want the openness of Android. Some people will want the iPhone because it's, well, it's the iPhone. ;) Having been in VZ stores a couple of times since the launch of the iPhone I can say they are doing brisk iPhone business but there are still some people who want BB or something like the Moto Droid 2 or X. I must say that VZ has a pretty good selection of smart phones right now.

Personally, I won't have buyer's remorse. I could have gone with what is essentially the T-Bolt but I have never liked the form factor of it. The thing is just too dang big! I know it's far from scientific but my experience with 6 HTC handsets running Windows Mobile and Android, friends' similar experience with HTC (Mogul, Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, Hero, Incredible, Evo 4G battery life only so far) have me sworn off of their products.

All good PNG, but I was talking about the phones on VZW. :beerchug: But we can keep talking in parallel about Sprint if you like :)

One other factor that could result in buyers remorse on VZW is the rumored iphone 5 coming out this summer.

VZW is smart though, they're not releasing the Thunderbolt until > 30 days after the iPhone4 was released, so anyone that bought an iPhone on day 1 isn't eligible for Verizon's "try it for 30 days and return it if you don't like it" policy.

I am talking about VZ. I compared the T-Bolt to the Evo on Sprint because that it what it is. I don't think the T-Bolt will cause buyer's remorse on VZ. The iPhone 5 might but we jumped on the 4 for a handful of reasons, chief amongst them our HTC handsets acting crappy, but also because didn't want to wait until possible July, not buying into the hype, and a slight fear that VZ would follow AT&T's lead and eliminate unlimited data upon the release of the iPhone 5. It's pure guessing on my part but it seems that the industry has been very much incestuous as far as policies and when one company does something, others tend to follow. For example, VZ didn't have a restocking fee until AT&T instituted one, VZ used to have a 30 day return until AT&T went to 14 days, and now VZ also has the iPhone. I have absolutely no proof that the unlimited data plan could be eliminated by VZ but paranoia about that was another reason we made the leap now.

LTE
 

Vz., LTE price is rumored to be around $15 on top of the $29 data plan......that's too much for me ..... I will stick with the new iphone

If that is what is going to happen, and I fully expect it to given Sprint's $10 4G surcharge and how the competition goes, then I too am fine with 3G. I can also see the possibility of ending unlimited data like AT&T.

I totally agree. One of the reasons I went with iPhone 4 was that my other option was an Evo 4G and that thing is massive. It's not even comfortable in the hand. The form factor of the current iPhone is excellent. Even going to a 4" will take some of the good feeling the current version offers.

OK What's the verdict;

Chime in: Did you change carriers and is Verizon service any better than your AT&T service in the so called trouble areas, NY, SFO, home ect? I'm getting close to buying so
the difference in service may be a factor.

My business partner switched from At&t iphone to Verizon iphone and says the service here in the Washington, DC suburbs is vastly improved. I have verizon as well and also have the iphone. I have not noticed any lost calls or poor reception so far.

I went from BB Pearl to iphone and am loving it:thumbup::thumbup:

OK the reports are coming in. The conclusion appears to be as follows.

If you have the liberty to choose between AT&T and Verizon to buy an iPhone, your best choice depends on what you value. If you enjoy making phone calls, the Verizon iPhone is the obvious winner. Or if you’re an AT&T iPhone customer and your reception is just pathetic wherever you live, then by all means, pay the price and jump ship to Verizon.

With all that said, if you use your iPhone more often as a general computing device rather than a phone, then the AT&T iPhone’s faster transfer rates should serve your needs.

WIRED It’s a better phone, period. More likely to pull a signal, even indoors — this could change the way we converse at bars. Hot-spotting is well-integrated and very easy to use. Has a whiter, slightly better-looking display.

TIRED Slow data transfers compared to the AT&T iPhone. Sluggish app installs take away from the App Store’s instant gratification. Video streams are compressed more heavily, so Netflix and YouTube are uglier. No simultaneous voice and data transmissions thanks to the limitations of CDMA.

So what's your flavor?

AT&T iPhone Beats Verizon in Nationwide 3G Speed Tests | Gadget Lab | Wired.com

The iPhone Is Now a Phone. Who’da Thunk? | Product Reviews | Wired.com

Call me crazy but I actually value a phone that makes phone calls reliably. I do love the extras but at the end of the day, it's a phone and there's nothing more aggravating that no signal and dropped calls. I can live with not being able to surf the Interweb and might be frustrated occasionally but dropping calls is the worst.

Having said that, I haven't noticed slow transfer speeds. The Internet is about the same as AT&T in my informal tests with people who have iPhone 4 from AT&T. Apps can take a little while to install but not all apps have been that way. It's not something that bothers me either way. YouTube and other videos have been fine so far.

A friend of mine just made the switch from AT&T (iPhone 3Gs) because he was tired of what he described as constantly dropping calls when in Los Angeles. FWIW and YMMV.

18 pages about a new freakin' cell phone ....:dunno:

It's a cellphone first...any other features are a plus which some use while other don't.

Now im gonna make a phone call from my toshiba laptop cell :P :D

Nope, new network I guess rather than new phone ....big shwing. Oh well, I'm sticking with mine. ;)

Actually not;

At this point I believe we are way past the era of a simple cell phone, and theres no turning back the clock. Trying to keep up with it all ( which no one
will ever do} is what the 18 pages are about.

Already covered in Post #175. So the verdict is what's your pleasure.:dunno:

How important is the carrier network? The iPhone 5 may solve that question. How about dual radio chips, possibly enabling it to run on multiple providers' networks, such as the GSM networks from AT&T and T-Mobile, and the CDMA/EV-DO networks from Verizon and Sprint Nextel. Read on...........

iPhone 4 on Verizon: Buy now, or wait for iPhone 5? - Computerworld

I'm waiting for iphone 17....that one's gonna be awesome :rofl:

There are all kings of cell phones...smart phones, flip phones etc...it is a cellphone as well...mobile device whatever u want to call it.

AH yes the holding it a certain way issue again. ...... :tapping:

It's not "old news" when Consumer Reports came out today about it---meaning CR has a broader impact when they report something than the smaller publication from that link.

It's insignificant news in that Consumer Reports will not change the broader decision making public from buying what they want.

But it's not good PR in general if there are more reports about the signal issue--whether it's CR or someone else. I'm not a big fan of CR by any means.

Of course they will still sell. Toyota Prius will still sell even though the issues it had. I just think it's funny how Apple Fanboys get defensive when you point out their product might have defects. Apple only makes a whopping 2 phones (that are basically the same)--they should be expected to have no issues.

Not pointed at you--just in general.

But you folks knew this right??? Report: Verizon may ditch unlimited iPhone data plan by summer - Yahoo! News

Aha! I think I posted something about this being my prediction. I've been enduring many people telling me I should have waited for the iPhone 5 instead of buying the 4 on Verizon. One of the reasons I did it now was out of concern that VZ would eventually do away with the unlimited data plan a la AT&T. If they do, I hope the be grandfathered like AT&T did.

EDIT: I did "predict" it! Post 166 :cool:

AT&T confirms Personal Hotspot plan for iPhone when it launches as part of iOS 4.3 next week.

AT&T confirms Personal Hotspot plan for iPhone | Phones | iOS Central | Macworld

Any of you all get a hot ear after
talking for a while? I have an i4.

Depends on how juicy the gossip is......:rofl:

I usually use my BT headset with my iPhone 4 but I have experienced that. (No, I do not call 1-900 numbers.) I also had this with other handsets though.

I have done a jailbreak on my Iphone 4 hoping that I could get the "Torque" app downloaded onto it - has anyone done this? any tips?

Cheers