2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee...
 

Anyone else like it? I like the proportions and think it looks pretty good overall.

um...........yeah its nice and all, but its NOT a BMW...........

Someone in my building at school just got one. I like the tech it offers, but the back end looks really... odd.

Jeeps are kind of disposable. Everyone I know, including my parents have never gotten more than 135k out of one before it died. Good car though while its new.

I know it is not a BMW, but I still think it looks nice for an American SUV. Pretty muscular, imo.

I have a family member who has around 250k on his Cherokee sport. He has a Grand Cherokee as well, but that one has been more problematic.

I like it! I see them all the time around Orange County

I neither like it nor hate it. I kinda have to say that a loaded cherokee, as in the pics is not far off from the gx that everyone was hating on :stickpokeExcept its american and has less cache and is probably less reliable. Either way its better looking than the predecessor. Wonder if they will bring back the srt 8?

The GX looks oversized, unathletic, and like it is on stilts compared to the Cherokee, imo. All I was saying is that the Cherokee looks good to me. I wouldn't buy one. It doesn't look any better than my e53, imo, but it is not bad for what it is. I have only owned one non-BMW in my life and that was only for a few weeks. It was quickly sold and replaced with a Bimmer.

Actually, I was being nice with regard to the GX. It looks like an old roller skate. Not only are the wheels too skinny and don't fill up the wells, they aren't pushed forward and back enough to really look right. In other words, the wheelbase is not long enough to really suit the body, imo.

Having just seen about a dozen BMW X1's here in London, I'm seriously looking forward to its US launch.

And Jeeps suck. :D

How is the interior?

They actually have headroom too :thumbup:

First off, I like the 2011 GC - for those of you that don't know, this is considered the "Mercedes" GC. Most of the design was done while Daimler still owned the company - it even sits on an ML frame. They have added a bunch of nice options, including a Select Terrain system, heated and cooled seats, pano roof, etc. I know a lot of you say, "so, my X5 comes with that." But you cannot get an X5 with a 360hp V8 for just over $40K. The only complaint I have with the 2011 is that they are still using a highly ineffecient 5-speed tranny - an 8-speed should be added sometime next year.

My X5 has almost 200K miles on it, and while I love it, it will not be replaced with one. I have probably paid for this thing twice with all of the repair and maintenance costs. We just purchased earlier in the year a 2010 GC which I absolutely love!! Can't beat the sound of the HEMI when you put your foot into the gas (although 14 mpg sucks). Wife is driving it until the X5 dies and then it becomes mine.

This is something else you won't get from an X5 - took it in for the 6K mile service - $40!!!! (unless you have a new BMW whereas it is free) Oh, did a mention it runs on REGULAR unleaded!!

It kills me to see people bash other vehicles just because it is not the brand that they drive...trust me, I have defended all of you many times over on the GC board.

Interior is very nice - again, it is not a BMW, but it is much improved from previous model years. Perforated leather with heated/ cooled seats are an option.

I think it looks great. Having owned a few Jeeps I am looking forward to checking one out in person.

Oh, and for those of you wanting more power, I forgot to mention this:

2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8

The rear doesn't look too bad, however, it's NOT an X5!

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Love the new Jeep! Inside and out.

I didn't bash it because it's not an X5, I bashed it because of all of my friends who have had a GC they have all had problems and were unreliable.

That and the MPG's suck too.

Maybe this new model will change those perceptions, I hope so. (except for the MPG's, I doubt that will change much)

I wish that Chevy still made the SS...

Kinda hard for us X owners to knock another vehicle for poor reliability though. The X5 has been the least reliable car I or anyone in my family has owned in recent years. My friends just laugh when something else goes wrong wiith it. I know most of them would probably never buy an X5 because of how unreliable mine has been. I still love it, but it is not reliable by any means.

I think it looks ok. But obviously my taste is different from some here since I like the way my GX looks. Some of you guys kill me "its ok but its not an x" of course its not. Don't get me wrong my X5 is great love it but it is not the only car on earth that I will be seen in. To top that off it is also one of the only cars I have ever had that has left me stranded and had to be picked up by a rollback that is besides a Jeep!

I have had two jeeps they are full of problems. I used to work while in high school detailing for a jeep dealership. Funny thing the master mechanic there had been there for a long time and when I was going to buy one he said don't. I was young and dumb and did anyway. Should of listened to him that thing was in for warranty work all of the time. Later bought a Cherokee for a 3rd car and finally sold it everytime I got in it something went up. My wifes grand mom has last years model grand Cherokee she loves it even though it has been back in 3 times for warranty work. I am 99.9% positive I will never own another one no matter what they look like.

I do see the issues that people report on here, but my 3 X's have been very reliable.

Regardless, whether I owned a reliable or non-reliable SUV, I think the reputation of the current GC and prior years is that it's prone to needing a lot of TLC, IMO. Of course there are other Jeep owners whose Jeeps have been rock solid, it's the same for every brand.

I think it's just okay. Jeeps have always been boring to me, even the srt8.
that first photo looks nice but the back end needs something different.
just using american suvs, i think the new explorer is more interesting than
the new jeep. it sure is more different than the old one anyway..

thats said, those two trucks could never and will never touch BMW, Mercedes,Porsche,Audi ect.
expect parts to fall off after the warranty..



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FSETH, I truly believe that X5 reliability is all relative to age and mileage. I've had mine for close to seven years, 80K miles, without any major issues. I replaced the brake sensors and the cooling system recovery (expansion) tank that let go at the seam. Other than those two items the X5 has been solid. (Knock on wood!)

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just 2 tail lights and part of a sway bar on my 03'

Probably. Many of my issues happened between 60k-100k miles. A LOT happened though. I am used to 3 series cars that have been far more reliable than our V8 SUV. I know the X5's are much more complicated, but pretty much all of my issues we have experienced so far have been mechanical, not electrical. The e53's sure aren't rated very well for reliability by any major source that I have seen though.

That looks pretty cool.

I wish. I had the following items replaced from about 60k-100k;

tail light
alternator
fuel pump
power steering hoses
2 sets of thrust rod bushings
radiator
expantion tank
FSR
High side service port
ihka control unit
valley pan gasket
water pump
2 window regulators
motor mounts
thermostat

Plus normal items like valve cover gaskets (twice), timing cover gaskets, vanos seals, battery.

Basically I had between about $8k to $10k in work performed over the past 3 years. Seems a little excessive. Not to mention I have started dropping oil on the garage floor a few weeks ago...again.

The new explorer looks better than new Jeep :popcorn:

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How does the Audi Q5 rate with reliability? It's basically an A4 with a big ass.

The more I look at it, the more I think you guys are right about hte 2011 Explorer. I have to give credit to Ford and what they have going on. The Fusion is a good looking car and has tested very well for safety. The engine in the new Taurus seems like a good power plant and then I came across this as well, the 2012 Focus. I have to say, for a small car around $20k, it doesn't look too bad on the exterior or the interior.

Autoweek review of Explorer
PART III--2011 Ford Explorer, an AW Product Profile

wow, do you take it off road ?

i think Ford has it together, i like the SHO too :popcorn:

No, maybe a gravel driveway or two over the years. It is my wifes car and she is not hard on it at all. All fluids changed when due, OEM parts, dealer serviced for nearly all of those repairs, garaged, no snow, etc.

Just wait - not enough miles yet. I hit about 120K and everything fell apart. Started doing some routine maintenance and then everything needed replacing, including the tranny.

^ Sounds positive.

I agree it's a great looking SUV, I'd love to get the HEMI model, however, I've had three GCs in the past, the second one turned out to be a lemon. The other two were great without any issues. Would I take another chance on a GC? I most likely would!

My X5 is getting old, and unfortunately the X5 reliability is not getting any better, so maybe a GC is in my future, even though I'm a die-hard BMW enthusiast and owner. We'll see how the dice roll in about a year from now.

Not bad.... Those ASM Supercharged JGCSRT-8's are a force to be reckoned with, but for the cost, it would be nearing the X5M price territory without a warranty.

I like the looks of the Jeep better but I would think that the Ford is a better truck.