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TwinsPoppa 10-19-2010 09:06 PM

Going to Long Island tomorrow to buy this ...
 
1968 Mustang Fastback (Shelby clone) :thumbup: Though not looking forward to the 5-6hr drive, one-way. :thumbdown:yawn:
http://thumbnails32.imagebam.com/102...b102968510.jpg http://thumbnails20.imagebam.com/102...4102968508.jpg http://thumbnails32.imagebam.com/102...e102968518.jpg http://thumbnails30.imagebam.com/102...4102968519.jpg


Considered getting this mint 1967 Shelby Cobra Replica for only $20K
http://thumbnails28.imagebam.com/102...f102967719.jpg http://thumbnails27.imagebam.com/102...3102969317.jpg http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/102...1102969318.jpg


Also this 1970 Mustang Mach 1 but they wanted insane money - more than the Cobra above! :wow:
http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/102...7102967792.jpg http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/102...b102967793.jpg

Yii 10-19-2010 09:13 PM

o0o0 i am def liking that mach 1

TwinsPoppa 10-19-2010 09:16 PM

I'm going to leave it a plain GT500 (no badges) but may convert the looks to the KR with badges. Haven't decided yet. Real Shelby owners might be mad at me for being a poser! :rofl:

BTW ... no Eleanor for me thank you. :D

Might go only one color but all the stock Shelby color combos look great to me.

I love this blue
http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/102...c102968491.jpg http://thumbnails7.imagebam.com/1029...9102968493.jpg

This scheme is almost exactly what I'm considering. The silver is like a hyper silver. Check out the video. Love how the silver glows and even the grabber blue too.
http://thumbnails30.imagebam.com/102...d102967724.jpg http://thumbnails17.imagebam.com/102...5102967741.jpg http://thumbnails30.imagebam.com/102...7102967737.jpg http://thumbnails27.imagebam.com/102...6102967746.jpg http://thumbnails7.imagebam.com/1029...c102967749.jpg

Video:
YouTube - 67 Silver GT350.MOV

TwinsPoppa 10-19-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Yii (Post 776036)
o0o0 i am def liking that mach 1

Yeah that Eleanor paint schem IS nice. When I started looking for something I wanted to make a BOSS 302 clone from a 69-70 fastback.

However, trying to get ANY year classic mustang fastback (64-73) for reasonable money is very hard. Especially 67-68s.

Then I lucked out on this deal on the 68. I actually got it for less than 1/2 the price of the yellow Cobra above. ;) Or I should say ... I'm SUPPOSED to get it tomorrow for ... you know. :rofl:

Naz24 10-19-2010 09:56 PM

Awesome, cant wait to see the transformation.

keep us updated!

Weasel 10-19-2010 10:18 PM

Damn, all 3 of those are beautiful cars.... Looks like you have a new project/labor of love! And the 68 fastback will be a fun car to work on as long as you have the time to put towards it. What engine is in it now? 289?

TwinsPoppa 10-19-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 776046)
Damn, all 3 of those are beautiful cars.... Looks like you have a new project/labor of love! And the 68 fastback will be a fun car to work on as long as you have the time to put towards it. What engine is in it now? 289?

Its a non-original 302 with 4 spd automatic. Guy said engine and tranny has been rebuilt in the last 4 years. I'll probably leave it alone for now and just do an engine dress-up kit. When I successfully get to a certain point (driving this baby) then I'll consider dropping in what's really supposed to be in there - 428 CJ w/manual.

I wanted a driver, which this is - it runs and drives now. There were many REAL project cars out there but was dissasembled completely. This car is almost totally assembled.

Lots of little bolt-ons but nothing crazy. I wish I was a mechanic, body, and paint guy all together. Would save me more money!

Overall I THINK this is a fairly easy project. I'm going to concentrate the most money and time to the body. Clean up the interior real good. Get a real good paint job that lasts. This car doesn't have layers and layers of paint - all primed and just needs massaging.

I'm a Pontiac man so I have to research Mustangs and Shelbys. I'm not trying to build a show car but I do want to do a nice job. :thumbup:

Weasel 10-19-2010 10:35 PM

Cool deal, I'm gonna try my hands at body and paint with my old E36 I'm getting back. I have very little experience but enough knowledge to feel comfortable with it. Besides, most of the dented panels are bolt on anyways.

JCL 10-20-2010 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 776050)
Overall I THINK this is a fairly easy project. I'm going to concentrate the most money and time to the body. Clean up the interior real good. Get a real good paint job that lasts. This car doesn't have layers and layers of paint - all primed and just needs massaging.

Fair bit of body work there, I wouldn't call it an easy project. Take a look at the inner fender where the patch was welded in, and the other pictures. There isn't much that is straight there. Good luck with it.

Mine was a '66 coupe, 289. Rebuilt all the mechanicals, kept it stock except for a mild cam, bored over as little as I could. Did the engine and all ancillaries, automatic transmission, suspension, brakes, diff, and so on. Body was good enough to drive, but I never got it to show condition. Sold it before they started to really appreciate in value. My uncle had a very nice '69 Boss 351 with the shaker hood scoop and rear window slats. I have always liked Mustangs, the earlier the better. Personally, I would look for one that is truer to stock.

Edit: '69 Mach 1. It was a 351. Boss 351 was later. What was I thinking.

BGM 10-20-2010 10:13 AM

Nice.

J.Belknap 10-20-2010 04:27 PM

Congrats!!!


These cars would inspire me if I owned a Mustang....

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...17_ZaCeU-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...04_RYe7m-L.jpg

http://www.sportruck.com/events/sema...ormance/59.jpg

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Hope to see some updates as the project progresses. :)

X5rolls 10-20-2010 05:48 PM

Nice find - let me know if you need a hand with some wrenches on the 68, I learned a huge amount working on my 67 GTA and I have some good reference materials/manuals. You can bring it over and put it up on my lift if you want to check it out the underside.

TwinsPoppa 10-21-2010 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JCL (Post 776094)
Fair bit of body work there, I wouldn't call it an easy project. Take a look at the inner fender where the patch was welded in, and the other pictures. There isn't much that is straight there. Good luck with it.

Mine was a '66 coupe, 289. Rebuilt all the mechanicals, kept it stock except for a mild cam, bored over as little as I could. Did the engine and all ancillaries, automatic transmission, suspension, brakes, diff, and so on. Body was good enough to drive, but I never got it to show condition. Sold it before they started to really appreciate in value. My uncle had a very nice '69 Boss 351 with the shaker hood scoop and rear window slats. I have always liked Mustangs, the earlier the better. Personally, I would look for one that is truer to stock.

Thanks for the input JCL. I usually count on things on being harder than they look. When I say easy, I meant relative to a lot of others being sold. Most of the cars being sold as projects are totally disassembled. So, I think this will be much easier. Maybe I shouldn't use the word MUCH.

I just finished inspecting the car and it is rougher than my initial thoughts - again I expected this especially from my first & last experience trying to buy a vehicle from ebay!

It has some rust on the bottom corner on a fender and some lower on the door. This doesn't bother me as much really as much as if the dang car is rotted out. Floor pans and rails look fine. However, I will definitely get a pro to take stock and advise.

I do want to make clear to everyone that I want to build a driver. I don't have the patience, money or desire to build a show car. I want a car that I can drive and enjoy when I want - not worry about getting it dirty. So, I don't like that the inner fenders are like that but - eh, I'll live.

I wish it was perfectly straight, no rust, etc. but for the money I got this it was a steal IMO. Just try and look for ANY year fastback and see what they're asking and note the condition they're in - its crazy (to me).

Here's something to think about, the shelby fiberglass kit costs approx. $3K to buy alone. Then you'd have to factor in installation. Well, to give you an idea of what you would think is a simple bolt on - the stock shelby hoods did not even fit great from the factory. I'm talking about the actual real shelby hoods and being put on the real shelby cars.

Now these shelby kits, people have had a nightmare trying to install the pieces. They need a lot of massaging. Well I saved myself, I think, most of that headache & cost. I'm just going to ask the body guy to do his best to prep for paint. From what I saw, I'm going to be happy enough.

Obviously, if I'm building a shelby clone, I don't really care about stock. Clone is also a loose intrepretation for me in this case. I want to build it the way I like. It won't be period correct, interior correct, etc like a real 68 shelby. I think I'll do the exterior pretty close to a real 68 Shelby (except the wheels). Interior I'm going to keep what's there and maybe change only the dash to the brushed aluminum and white face gauges (like Eleanor). I actually don't like the real shelby interiors.

Matter of fact, I prefer the 67 but again this was too good to pass-up.

Sorry folks for LONG post. :(

BTW ... JCL I love your posts. You always seem to be a voice of logic, reason and common sense - something I often lack.

TwinsPoppa 10-21-2010 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by X5rolls (Post 776274)
Nice find - let me know if you need a hand with some wrenches on the 68, I learned a huge amount working on my 67 GTA and I have some good reference materials/manuals. You can bring it over and put it up on my lift if you want to check it out the underside.

Thanks for the offer! I'd like to meet up with you or talk over the phone and pick your brain - definitely.

I'd definitely like to come see your GTA! Is it a fastback too?

If you have any recommendations for a restorer or good body/paint shop that would be nice. I'm not sure if my worry is misguided or not but ... Do you feel I NEED to have a mechanic/body/paint guy that's familiar with these older mustangs? I'm mostly worried about the body/paint guy - I don't have one that I trust with this project. I don't mind paying extra for better work. It just needs to be balanced between quality vs cost for my needs.

I'm going to assemble/fix the car enough to pass inspection to get tagged. That way I can bring it to any shop conveniently w/o a time limit or worry about interstate travel. I'll use the temporary tags initially to get it inspected.

The car seems to run fine and I'm really surprised at the rumble of the 302. I think when it was rebuilt they changed the cam to something with more duration/lift. Also, the headers are the smallest pipes I've seen. Seems like they're 1/2 the diameter of the headers I had on my old goat. I got a lot to research but it'll be worth it.

I'll PM you later. :thumbup:

X5rolls 10-21-2010 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 776361)
Thanks for the offer! I'd like to meet up with you or talk over the phone and pick your brain - definitely.

I'd definitely like to come see your GTA! Is it a fastback too?

If you have any recommendations for a restorer or good body/paint shop that would be nice. I'm not sure if my worry is misguided or not but ... Do you feel I NEED to have a mechanic/body/paint guy that's familiar with these older mustangs? I'm mostly worried about the body/paint guy - I don't have one that I trust with this project. I don't mind paying extra for better work. It just needs to be balanced between quality vs cost for my needs.

I'm going to assemble/fix the car enough to pass inspection to get tagged. That way I can bring it to any shop conveniently w/o a time limit or worry about interstate travel. I'll use the temporary tags initially to get it inspected.

The car seems to run fine and I'm really surprised at the rumble of the 302. I think when it was rebuilt they changed the cam to something with more duration/lift. Also, the headers are the smallest pipes I've seen. Seems like they're 1/2 the diameter of the headers I had on my old goat. I got a lot to research but it'll be worth it.

I'll PM you later. :thumbup:


Here is a pic of my 67, not a fastback (I'm partial to convertibles) - a decent driver that has a fully upgraded drivetrain pushing 350rwhp. We can get together and I can introduce you to a buddy who is just finishing a 68 Mustang GT that he brought back to life from a rust bucket. Between the two of us we may either know who are good people to talk to or we have done it ourselves. PM me and we can get together, I want to check out your new addition.

http://www.xoutpost.com/members/x5ro...cture442-a.jpg

alpac 10-21-2010 08:13 AM

Nice car, I really like it but I agree that this may not be such an easy job. If I were you I would get the car inspected by somebody who is familiar with restoring ponies. He would know what to look at and that will give you an idea of the work and money you will need to put into it. The good news is that with cars of that age it is mainly basic mechanic and body work and you do not have to be concerned about electronic controls and sensors, etc.... I am with you in wanting to drive the car rather than making a show car. Keep us posted.

TwinsPoppa 10-23-2010 05:37 PM

Car on the way ...
 
Here's a few pics of the car being loaded today. Leaving New York today and receiving it this Monday.
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Decided to register it for 'Street Rod' tags first so I don't have to worry about inspections and get a tag right away. Then I'll be able to move the car conveniently without towing it to the shop.

But before it gets on the road I'll do some safety checks like make sure the brakes work! :rofl:

I have to connect at least the brake lights and turn signals. Can't remember if the rear view mirror is attached or not.

Though, the very first thing I'm going to do is take lots of pics of the way I got it and document everything as I go along. I'll take pics and label each loose part.

For the engine I guess I should change the oil & check the plugs. It seemed to run fine before and no smoke of any kind (even revving it up a little).

Well, I got lots to do. Next update will be when I receive it on Monday I guess.

TwinsPoppa 10-28-2010 06:38 PM

My first "victory" ... sequential tail lights
 
The car came with the Hotronics LS6 sequencer and the PG3A flasher in the box. The shelby style lights were not connected and not sure where to start.

Well, after a several hours of Mustang forum searching, interpreting the wiring diagrams and other stuff ... I got my brake lights, turn signals and flasher to work!

I know its probably no big deal to most of you but I'm not the sharpest tool in the toolbox! :rofl:

Here's a video on youtube:
YouTube - 1968 Mustang Fastback Sequential Tail Lights

Next up will be headlights, front turn signals and dash instrument clusters.

Weasel 10-28-2010 07:56 PM

Lookin good! I saw a new mustang set up with sequenced tail lights the other day and it still looks good today.

X5rolls 10-29-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 777973)
The car came with the Hotronics LS6 sequencer and the PG3A flasher in the box. The shelby style lights were not connected and not sure where to start.

Well, after a several hours of Mustang forum searching, interpreting the wiring diagrams and other stuff ... I got my brake lights, turn signals and flasher to work!

I know its probably no big deal to most of you but I'm not the sharpest tool in the toolbox! :rofl:

Here's a video on youtube:
YouTube - 1968 Mustang Fastback Sequential Tail Lights

Next up will be headlights, front turn signals and dash instrument clusters.


Congrats - Did you get a service manual yet? They are gems to have and include all the wiring, mechanical and body parts/components and lay out the steps to remove and replace lots of items.

TwinsPoppa 10-30-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by X5rolls (Post 778243)
Congrats - Did you get a service manual yet? They are gems to have and include all the wiring, mechanical and body parts/components and lay out the steps to remove and replace lots of items.

Yes, I did. However, I'm not that smart - especially with electrical stuff. :D

I sending a PM. :thumbup:

X5rolls 10-31-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 778318)
Yes, I did. However, I'm not that smart - especially with electrical stuff. :D

I sending a PM. :thumbup:

Electrical problems are tricky and not always easy to identify the source issue. I know by experience but eventually have been able to sort it out and solve the problems. PM sent back, looking forward to getting together.

TwinsPoppa 03-08-2011 01:44 PM

New waterpump ...
 
Well, now that its warmed up a little outside I started upgrading the cooling system.

I found several holes in the radiator. Since I have no idea how old or if the other parts are defective, I decided to replace/upgrade the entire cooling system.

Here you can see the old crappy 17" radiator, 16" 4-blade fan, non-stock stainless shroud, old water pump, thermostat housing and 192 degree thermostat.

http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/122...1122726694.jpg

http://thumbnails13.imagebam.com/122...d122726689.jpg


I'm replacing those with a 24" brass/copper 3-row radiator from a big block, stock plastic shroud, 18" 6-blade fan with non-thermal fan clutch, Flowkooler high-flow aluminum water pump, chrome T-stat housing and a little cooler 180 degree T-stat.

Here's a progress pic.

http://thumbnails37.imagebam.com/122...c122726683.jpg


I'm waiting on some parts to come in to finish up but I'm also installing March Performance billet pulleys and alternator bracket, Powermaster 140 amp alternator. I have the Ford Cobra oval black finned air cleaner and valve covers too. I'm waiting on some of the the dress-up stuff until after paint.

Once I'm finished with this she's going into the bodyshop for bodywork/prep/paint. I'm still deciding on paint. Was looking at Viper GTS blue/white stripes, Black/snakeskin green stripes, Snakeskin green/white stripes or Red pearl/white stripes.

I can't makeup my mind! :rofl:

PersonaNonGrata 03-08-2011 03:22 PM

It looks like you have a busy spring and summer ahead of you but it should be very satisfying.

TwinsPoppa 03-08-2011 03:37 PM

Yes, I actually have to watch out and NOT spend too much time on this.

I'm neglecting my wife's X5 - have to clean/fix the rear light contacts again and have a front turn signal bulb to replace.

I just wish I was a lot more knowledgeable. It took me a long time just to understand the what/why of this car's cooling needs.

At least I can take some satisfaction from doing some of these simpler items. Bolt-on I can do! :D

TwinsPoppa 10-04-2011 02:08 PM

68 fastback update
 
Almost ready for paint. Ayayayay, cold weather already here. :(

68FB on Facebook

J.Belknap 10-04-2011 02:58 PM

Coming along nicely!

TwinsPoppa 10-19-2011 11:56 AM

Just painted.
 
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Just painted. :)

Naz24 10-19-2011 12:13 PM

gonna be so sweet!

cant wait to see the final shots

X5rolls 10-19-2011 01:51 PM

Sweet - I love the color and the stripes.

:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 847692)
Just painted. :)


Weasel 10-19-2011 08:20 PM

That looks awesome! I wish I had a big, well lit garage to paint in... I got a few bugs and a few runs in the clear on my E36 from painting it outside near dusk right by the woods haha.

PersonaNonGrata 10-20-2011 03:16 AM

That is looking good! :thumbup:

TwinsPoppa 10-20-2011 04:13 PM

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That looks awesome! I wish I had a big, well lit garage to paint in... I got a few bugs and a few runs in the clear on my E36 from painting it outside near dusk right by the woods haha.

I know I'm late, seeing as I haven't been around, but I just saw that you rolled your X! Oh man, sorry to hear. :(

Thanks to everyone for your comments! :thumbup:

Mustang is back at the painter's garage for assembly and buffing.
She's not perfect but good enough for local cruises.

Sorry but still crappy phonecam pics. Car is dusty, not washed, and overcast day.

TwinsPoppa 08-28-2012 12:58 AM

Mustang Update
 
Some people were asking for an update. I've been pretty busy lately and the car is stored almost 1.5 hrs away from me so couldn't work on it as much as I wanted.

Was able to install the four side scoops, rear bumper, flip-open gas cap, tail panel, tail lens and frame. Car is dusty and dirty in these pics.
http://thumbnails82.imagebam.com/208...c208029159.jpg http://thumbnails86.imagebam.com/208...9208029166.jpg http://thumbnails86.imagebam.com/208...3208029140.jpg

Here I'm trying to capture the pearl "fire" both in the blue and white paint.
http://thumbnails85.imagebam.com/208...e208029148.jpg http://thumbnails20.imagebam.com/208...9208029143.jpg

New tires & wheels and hood locks installed
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Phr3d 08-28-2012 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 893779)
Some people were asking for an update. I've been pretty busy lately and the car is stored almost 1.5 hrs away from me so couldn't work on it as much as I wanted.

Was able to install the four side scoops, rear bumper, flip-open gas cap, tail panel, tail lens and frame. Car is dusty and dirty in these pics.


Here I'm trying to capture the pearl "fire" both in the blue and white paint.
http://thumbnails85.imagebam.com/208...e208029148.jpg http://thumbnails20.imagebam.com/208...9208029143.jpg

New tires & wheels and hood locks installed
http://thumbnails39.imagebam.com/208...e208029199.jpg

nice, nice..

cannot recommend a 428cj-R swap -- the car was b.a.r.e.l.y able to handle itself with the entire factory drive-line changed out (ladder,stagger-shocks, on and on). When my brother used to uhmm.. hurry-with-friends.. he scared the shazbot outa' most since the car moved liked a bumble-bee and would present it's ass to their door as it slid a quarter lane over before the posi could lock up.. he wound up putting -monster- Ford-van radials on it as wide-ovals was 'spensive.. took him down to under an eighth-lane slide-over.

the winner, as far as -I- know for cowl-twisted-doors-barely-close-now convertibles of the era, lol. Hemi's had nuthin' on cj-R (tuned for proper jet-octane, o'course)

Thunder22 08-28-2012 08:11 AM

What are the "tabs" sticking out on the front right and left of the front bumper?

TwinsPoppa 08-28-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Phr3d (Post 893799)
nice, nice..

cannot recommend a 428cj-R swap -- the car was b.a.r.e.l.y able to handle itself with the entire factory drive-line changed out (ladder,stagger-shocks, on and on). When my brother used to uhmm.. hurry-with-friends.. he scared the shazbot outa' most since the car moved liked a bumble-bee and would present it's ass to their door as it slid a quarter lane over before the posi could lock up.. he wound up putting -monster- Ford-van radials on it as wide-ovals was 'spensive.. took him down to under an eighth-lane slide-over.

the winner, as far as -I- know for cowl-twisted-doors-barely-close-now convertibles of the era, lol. Hemi's had nuthin' on cj-R (tuned for proper jet-octane, o'course)

Thanks. I'm debating whether to stroke the 302 or swap a stroked 351. With the swap it means more work, more money and more time. Not sure if I want to go down that path any longer. LOL!

You know how it goes, upgrade power now you need to upgrade suspension, tranny and the list goes on.

I think I'll finish this as best as I can with my resources and then step back and assess things then.

TwinsPoppa 08-28-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder22 (Post 893816)
What are the "tabs" sticking out on the front right and left of the front bumper?

That's probably where the chrome bumper bolts on. The front in those pics is not assembled yet - the bumper and grille are not attached yet.

Naz24 08-28-2012 11:54 AM

OMG its coming together beautifully! Great job jose!

Thunder22 08-28-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinsPoppa (Post 893861)
That's probably where the chrome bumper bolts on. The front in those pics is not assembled yet - the bumper and grille are not attached yet.

Gotcha, thanks!

TwinsPoppa 08-28-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Naz24 (Post 893868)
OMG its coming together beautifully! Great job jose!

Thanks Naz! Hopefully, you can make Bimmerfest next year. I think Mike is trying to get another meet together next month already. LOL!


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