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SANguru 11-21-2010 09:27 PM

before you do anything else drastic, take your oil, send it into blackstone lab and get an analysis. Some motors take awhile for everything to seat.. seen some not completely broken in until 25-30k. Just because it is burning oil doesn't mean it's bad unless it is like my old E60 M5 that burnt a quart every 400 miles. The only motors that I have not burnt oil from the get go for me are both my Ferrari's which were broken in very thoroughly on the bench at the factory.

Wayne's World 11-21-2010 09:51 PM

It's an 2006, I'm at 124K right now.... 2nd owner since 85K.

Wayne's World 12-13-2010 02:00 PM

OK so I shy'd away from the piston soak. I did just run a quart of trans fluid through for about 1K miles. Then drained while hot and filled with Shell Rotella T6 5w-40. Been good ever since. Done about 1100 miles so far on the new oil n filter and it's the cleanest it's ever been. Only this weekend did it start to show signs of getting dark. I've been checking it every weekend since I changed it (weekend before Thanksgiving) and it was still that golden/yellowish color on the rag.

Oil consumption in 1100 miles has only been a smidge. Like from the top 'groove' or indentation to just below the groove/indentation.

JCL 12-14-2010 03:12 AM

I know it feels good when the oil is a golden colour, but it simply doesn't mean anything. Oil colour doesn't correlate to cleanliness.

Wayne's World 12-14-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 787933)
Oil colour doesn't correlate to cleanliness.

Then what does it correlate to? I always thought any deviation in color from the original was largely due to blowby/carbon/dust suspension in the oil and thermal breakdown. :dunno:

You're probably be regarded as the subject matter expert on this board so I welcome some ejumacation. :D

nom3rcy 12-14-2010 03:23 PM

he meant to say color doesn't indicate effectiveness

jst2878 12-14-2010 07:47 PM

how is your pcv valve?

JCL 12-15-2010 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne's World (Post 788025)
Then what does it correlate to? I always thought any deviation in color from the original was largely due to blowby/carbon/dust suspension in the oil and thermal breakdown. :dunno:

You're probably regarded as the subject matter expert on this board so I welcome some ejumacation. :D

You can get colouration from partices that don't contaminate the oil (what I meant by cleanliness was lack of contamination). You can also get contamination from particles that don't change the colour of the oil. Thermal breakdown isn't part of the equation.

Yes, soot colours the oil. If the oil is black, though, then the soot is in suspension, as it is supposed to be. It isn't harming your engine. If you want to keep your oil golden coloured longer, use a non-detergent oil. That won't be as good for your engine as an oil that has detergents, though.

Here is one article (I really don't like Amsoil, primarily due to their business model, but they are right in this paper): Color of Engine Oil

I let my SAE membership lapse, so don't have any access there, but this one came up on a search:

Motor Oils and Engine Lubrication Book: Motor Oil Engineers

The extract from that article makes a good point that some value can be taken from the colour of oil, notably if it has water in it and is therefore a malted-milk colour. I certainly agree with that.

Wayne's World 01-14-2011 04:07 PM

So in the end...
 
I never did the piston soak as I mentioned a few posts ago. I did however run 1 quart of Dexron VI in the motor for about 500 miles since I was 1 quart down on a 5K mi OCI.

At that point I did an oil & filter change with the motor hot. This time I brewed another repulsive concoction. I used Shell Rotella T6 5w40. I also added 750mls of the silver can 'Engine Restore' in addition to a full 8qts.

I am now approaching 3K miles and have checked the oil levels every week since the last oil change, Nov-20th, 2010. I've only used a 'smidge' of oil. This is a drastic deviation from my oil consumption issues since owning the vehicle 2 years now & 38K miles ago. Typically I would have used a full quart by now.

I intend to take the oil change to 5K. I'll update either then or whenever i'm 1 quart down.

Next oil change will consist of just Rotella T6 5w40 and a fresh filter.

sarends 04-17-2014 02:38 PM

I was Looking forward to continue reading about the miracle oil restore solution!

Wayne's world, calling Wayne's world, I want to hear the continued miracle restoration of your motor! Where are you?? Come now, take everybody's time describing this big problem, you report a miracle, three years ago, and now you're gone??


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