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LeMansX5 02-08-2011 10:55 PM

iPhone 4S with iOS 5 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata (Post 803300)
I was thinking the same thing but all the rumors are just frustrating me. How much different is it going to be? When is it going to come out? Supposedly it'll be in July but we'll see.


New iPhone 5 Release Date Now Said to be Around June 5 [Apple Said to Host WWDC 2011 During June 5-9; iPhone 5 With Magical Features Expected To be Announced & Launched After the Event] » TFTS – Technology, Gadgets & Curiosities
.........built in RFID techonology, integrated Sim, 64gb onboard, improved battery life, a Dual Core Processor and the list goes on…...
http://www.premiershipnews.org/wp-co...5-pictures.jpg

LeMansX5 02-08-2011 11:12 PM

another rendering ;)....its not supposed to have home button....

http://www.stephanegillet.com/wp-con...9/iphone_5.jpg

Quicksilver 02-14-2011 07:23 AM

Add rumors to the mix and no one knows what to expect.
iPhone 5 rumors: what to expect - Technology & science - Wireless - msnbc.com


And that not all:
iPhone 5 News, Rumors & Opinion | The iPhone 5 News Blog

Quicksilver 02-15-2011 05:22 PM

And the rumors keep coming. But this one talks about bigger is better.
As for the idea of an iPhone with a four-inch display? Bring it on.....:thumbup:
Report: Apple prepping iPhone with 4-inch display - Yahoo! News

LeMansX5 02-25-2011 10:19 PM

iPhone 5 Thread
 
iOS 5 coming
Apple to unveil iOS 5 and iPad 2 March 2. - Long Island iPhone Games | Examiner.com

LeMansX5 03-31-2011 08:08 AM

No Hardware Announcements at WWDC 2011? [Updated: No New iPhone Until FY 2012?] - Mac Rumors

LeMansX5 06-27-2011 09:27 PM

http://nextiphonenews.com/wp-content...mn-600x796.jpg
http://iphone5newsblog.com/wp-conten...-Apple-iOS.jpg


June 27, 2011
Deutsche Bank analyst Chris Whitmore predicts that Apple will introduce two iPhones later this year. The first will be a full next-generation handset (most likely an iPhone 5) while the second will be a revamped iPhone 4 (probably called an iPhone 4S) that Apple will target to customers on prepaid cell phone plans.

Morgan Stanley analyst Katy Huberty said that Apple will start "aggressively" making the next iPhone in August and launch the handset late in the third quarter of this year. Huberty make the remarks after a trip to Taiwan where she presumably met with Apple suppliers.

Read more: iPhone 5 rumor roundup | iPhone Atlas - CNET Reviews



Apple has launched a new iPhone every June at its annual developer's conference ever since the smartphone's debut.

The company changed things up this year for what may have been a variety of reasons -- supply issues, the delay of the white iPhone 4, but the most likely factor is the launch of the new iOS 5 operating system which is to be released in the 3rd quarter of this year.

This generally falls in line with estimates of a September launch and also correlates to production estimates, according to Chris Caso at Susquehanna Financial.

"Our checks at multiple levels of the supply chain point to a one-to-two-month delay in the production start for the next-generation iPhone vs. our earlier view of a July production start.”

Read more: iPhone 5 Could Sport 'Radical' New Look - FoxNews.com


http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//20..._1_540x287.jpg

PersonaNonGrata 06-28-2011 07:50 PM

I for one, have grown pretty weary of Apple rumors. Yes, I get sucked into reading the so-called "scoops" but it's all so much speculation. Apple will do what they do, they will release new cool stuff, it will be better than the previous version in some way, and many people will want it. Then there will something even "more cooler" and again, people will drool.

I know several people waiting for the iPhone 5. I tell them that is nice but I'll just wind up getting the iPhone 6 when I can upgrade. You just can't chase this stuff.

brian5 06-28-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata (Post 831910)
I for one, have grown pretty weary of Apple rumors. Yes, I get sucked into reading the so-called "scoops" but it's all so much speculation. Apple will do what they do, they will release new cool stuff, it will be better than the previous version in some way, and many people will want it. Then there will something even "more cooler" and again, people will drool.

I know several people waiting for the iPhone 5. I tell them that is nice but I'll just wind up getting the iPhone 6 when I can upgrade. You just can't chase this stuff.

I have an iPhone 4. I am DEFINITELY getting an iPhone 5 -- it doesn't matter whether it's only marginally better than iPhone 4 or not. I use this device way too much to not have the best... :)

Quicksilver 06-28-2011 11:18 PM

And here I am with a lowly (slow as molasses) 3G....:bustingup

brian5 06-29-2011 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 831941)
And here I am with a lowly (slow as molasses) 3G....:bustingup

Nope, couldn't live with that. Gave that one to my wife and can't believe how slow it is when I need to use it (or download her updates).
Don't know what your plans are but if you're not going to get iPhone 5, you should get iPhone 3GS. Can't you get them at zero cost with contract (if you're still using AT&T)? Maybe that's the Verizon pricing too?

wallyx5 06-29-2011 10:16 AM

Whats the verdict, do we know when the iphone 5 will be launch?? Any estimates on when??

brian5 06-29-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallyx5 (Post 831979)
Whats the verdict, do we know when the iphone 5 will be launch?? Any estimates on when??

Currently, most reports seem to be saying September 2011.

TQ2K 06-29-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 831941)
And here I am with a lowly (slow as molasses) 3G....:bustingup

Same here and feel really behind as we're just eyeing to get an iPhone 4 this week as Sam's Club/Walmart is selling for $147...

Figuring that even if the iPhone 4 price goes down to $99 when iPhone 5 goes on sale we would've got our money's worth for getting to use the phone now...

Quicksilver 06-29-2011 01:52 PM

Thanks for the suggestion but that would "NOT" be a bargain IMO. Free without a contract would be a temporary good thing. But I believe i'll just wait for the 5.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian5 (Post 831960)
If you're not going to get iPhone 5, you should get iPhone 3GS. Can't you get them at zero cost with contract (if you're still using AT&T)? Maybe that's the Verizon pricing too?


brian5 06-29-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 832007)
Thanks for the suggestion but that would "NOT" be a bargain IMO. Free without a contract would be a temporary good thing. But I believe i'll just wait for the 5.

Oh, I wasn't suggesting that the 3GS was the better choice. It sounds like you've already made the better choice.

Quicksilver 06-29-2011 05:55 PM

Looks like I'm not the quick adopter that everyone thinks I am. Still "NO" iPad.
But I am considering a new MacBook Pro.

brian5 06-29-2011 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 832045)
Looks like I'm not the quick adopter that everyone thinks I am. Still "NO" iPad.
But I am considering a new MacBook Pro.

I had to respond to the MacBook Pro :)

Just got one of those for my son. Looked hard at that but, for myself, I got the Samsung Series 9 A05 (which blows the current MacBook Air away) and it runs Windows 7 x64!!!

I'm well aware that the next MacBook Air will probably be better than this Samsung Series 9 but we need to live for today ;)

LeMansX5 08-22-2011 01:05 AM

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..... from macrumors.com

some rumors are that iPhone 5 will be 3D. Lets see.

Quicksilver 08-23-2011 07:57 PM

Sprint To Get iPhone 5 In Mid-October, WSJ Reports - Yahoo! News

LeMansX5 08-23-2011 08:32 PM

iPhone competition in Bionic from Android is landing sooner. Not sure if its really competition, but interesting to see now that Google is taking over.

http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-cont...-BIONIC_th.jpg

Quicksilver 08-23-2011 08:42 PM

It will be a war with customers hopefully in the drivers seat google or not.
I saw someone on the train using a "DELL" handheld. Huge screen but the OS
didn't look very user friendly.

I can only hope that an iPhone with sprint will include Nextel Direct connect.
What a combination that would be.

LeMansX5 09-05-2011 12:28 AM

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more spy shots ;)

LeMansX5 09-07-2011 08:14 AM

iPhone 4 in a iPhone 5 case

http://theappera.com/wp-content/uplo...h-Screen-1.jpg

LeMansX5 09-07-2011 09:16 PM

Best Buy employees have been informed that preorders for the iPhone 5 will begin this week in time for a release in the first week of October.

A Best Buy source released a document to BGR.com, which shows that the store is anticipating the pre-sales and also that Sprint will be carrying the iPhone 5 at the launch of the new device.

However, Best Buy did note that Apple product introduction and launch dates are subject to change, BGR reported.

Deutsche Telekom AG (DTE) is now taking customer reservations for the next-generation of Apple Inc.'s iPhone 5 starting Sept. 5, as new evidence supports rumors that the iPhone 5, expected to be revealed in October.

Mean while, 9to5mac.com reported that Apple has begun iOS 5 and iCloud training with retail store employees to coincide with the iPhone 5′s unveiling.

The site points out that Apple Stores usually begin their training of new software in the couple of weeks leading up to a respective product launch (obviously this time around could be different, though). Apple beginning their iOS 5 training within the last few days could mean a launch sooner than the recently rumored dates of mid-to-late October.

There have also been reports that the iPhone 5 is going into production overseas this week. If that is so, this could go right in line with the Best Buy early October release date.

Unconfirmed reports say Apple's Chinese subcontractors Foxconn Technology and Pegatron Technology have started production of the iPhone 5.

According to a Japanese IT news site, Macotakara's danbo, the two Chinese OEM manufacturers have begun production of the hotly anticipated device. The report added, however, that since Apple's new operating system, iOS 5, is not yet ready to install, the "assembled iPhone seems to be stocked without packaging."

Meanwhile, iPhone 5 release date rumors, as well as speculation over its specifications, are gaining momentum in the United States.

Here are the most rumored features of Apple iPhone 5:

Design: The new phone is expected to adopt a teardrop design that is supposed to be slimmer and lighter than past iPhone models. The iPhone 5 is expected to come with an aluminum plate casing rather than the current glass backing.

Display: The iPhone 5 is anticipated to have an edge-to-edge 4-inch retina display. A curved glass display screen is also rumored that may offer more privacy while viewing in public areas. The Quantum Dot LED technology could be a possible delivery system for the iPhone 5. The new technology needs less power consumption while delivering the same quality of an OLED screen.

Dual-Core Processor: Several of Apple's rivals, from LG and Motorola to Samsung have already released dual-core processor phones. According to a recent media report from 9to5 Mac, Apple gave its developers a dual-core iPhone 4 to allow them to prep for the iPhone 5.

Upgraded Camera:
This is another one that will likely happen. In the tech world, a 5 megapixel camera seems passé - as sad as that might sound to some - it's true. Like the dual core processor, several of iPhone's competitors in the Android world have phones with 8 megapixel cameras. A rumor back in April, from Ming-Chi Kuo of Concord Securities, said the iPhone 5 would carry the 8 megapixel rear camera. Another rumor had Sony replacing Omnivsion and making the iPhone 5's improved camera. Expect a better phone with the iPhone 5.

4G: There have been a lot of rumors regarding the possibility of the next-generation iPhone being available on 4G networks for AT&T, Verizon and Sprint. The consensus from analysts and tech experts seems to be that the iPhone 5 will not have 4G support. Our question is why not? Plenty of new phones have come out with 4G, and all three major U.S. carriers are pumping up support for their networks. Apple has always been ahead of the smartphone trends, why lag behind on this one?

iCloud: iPhone 5 is expected to feature the new iCloud service in operating iTunes for wireless remote access of music from all computers and mobile devices. The iCloud will also store photos, apps, calendars and documents without storing them onto the phone's memory storage.

iOS 5: Apple's iOS 5.0, which is the newest of the OS versions, was announced on June 6 at the WWDC 2011 keynote address. The new iOS 5 is expected to come with 200 new features that will include Improved Notifications System, News Stand and iMessage. It will also feature new applications, such as the Reminders app and Newsstand, an application resembling Folders and iBooks.

NFC Payment: There have been reports since early this year that Apple is testing an iPhone that incorporates Near Field Communication technology. Users can simply pay for goods by waving their iPhone in front of a contactless payment scanner. Mobile-payment services using NFC will be a hot segment in the future. The technology could offer features that allow multiple mobile devices to sync for speedier information exchange and gaming.

World Phone with SIM-less Design: Making it a worldphone, the iPhone 5 is rumored to feature a new SIM-less design with two to three internal antennas for CDMA and GSM compatibility
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E61Silver 09-10-2011 06:23 PM

I like my Droid X but will probably get the I Phone 5.

Nik 09-16-2011 02:53 AM

The Intigrated SIM,is this a rumor or? Damn it, then I can't get it! Lost my 3G and didn't get 4 because 5is coming out in a month, had this piece of shit phone for 2 weeks and am waiting a month more. hope month and a half is not just a waste of time.

LeMansX5 09-16-2011 08:02 AM

iPhone 5 Release Date is October 15 According to France Telecom

iPhone 5 October 20th Release Date... I Think... | HalfPeeledApple

Published image of the new iPhone 5 cases by Case-Mate. It seems that the new smartphone from Apple will have an aluminum back and will be thinner and lighter than those before it.

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/imag...ase-design.jpg

PersonaNonGrata 09-17-2011 03:42 AM

Looks nice. I'm sure it'll be great.

I am so sick of people like a friend of mine who has been an iPhone hater turned fanboi now that the Sprint rumor has been floating around and he's on Sprint. He's the type of guy who will say stupid stuff like "you should have waited for the iPhone 5, it's going to be awesome". I usually say to him that I have been enjoying my 4 while he's had a POS from Sprint and if, that is IF, he gets an iPhone on Sprint, I will wait for the iPhone 6, 7, or even 10 and that he sucks. :p:

E61Silver 09-17-2011 07:48 AM

I think that other brands of smart phones are catching up to Apple. I am sure that the I Phone 5 will be a good phone and I will probably get one, just don't think it will be a big step ahead of a google based smart phone.

All the new smart phones will probably be 4G but the 4G service network is limited and this advantage will be more meaningful over time; once they upgrade the network.

LeMansX5 09-20-2011 12:45 AM

Leaked image of iPhone 5 screen protector, indicating a larger home button. The release date event is supposed to happen in 2 weeks.
http://www-bgr-com.vimg.net/wp-conte...0915131225.jpg

iPhone 4 placed on top of iPhone 5 screen protector to give an idea of screen size of iPhone 5.
http://www-bgr-com.vimg.net/wp-conte...0915131203.jpg

iPhone 5 will have larger display and wider home button, leaked screen protector suggests

LeMansX5 09-21-2011 01:51 AM

iPhone 5 Release Date Announcement Expected October 5th

An Apple employee has reportedly leaked more details about the iPhone 5 release date. According to an un-named Apple employee Apple is set to announce the iPhone 5 and the launch of iOS 5 on October 5th.

This day, 5-5-5 wouldn’t hit a jackpot in a casino, but it is already delivering returns for Apple investors who drove Apple stock to an all time high this week.

Speaking to Beatweek Magazine an Apple staffer said that the iPhone 5 announcement will take place in 14 days, which would put us on Tuesday October 4th or Wednesday October 5th.

Apple has traditionally used these two days of the week for product announcements, and it’s hard to believe that the company would pass on lining up the launch of the iPhone 5 and iOS 5 with the 5th of October.

This would be just 2 days before Sprint’s Media Event to brief reporters on Sprint’s strategy. If Sprint is getting the iPhone 5, this event is telling as it would give reporters time to get from California to NY and get the latest on how Sprint plans to use the iPhone 5 to grow.
iPhone 5 release date

The iPhone 5 release date may be revealed on October 5th.

This event isn’t likely to be the actual iPhone 5 release date, which typically comes at least a week after Apple announces the iPhone. If this date is legit, expect to hear about event invitations arriving to tech publications in the next week.

Possible iOS and iPhone 5 Release Date Timeline

October 5th – iPhone 5 and iOS Announced
October 10th – iOS 5 Downloads Available
October 13-17th – iPhone 5 Available

The iPhone 5 release date has been pegged for early October for several weeks now, and it looks like September is pretty much out of the picture in terms of an iPhone 5 announcement.

We have heard that the iPhone 5 was facing production issues, which could impact availability of the iPhone into 2012.

The iPhone 5 is expected on Verizon and AT&T, and may make its first appearance on Sprint, which could prompt Sprint CEO Dan Hesse to make an appearance on stage at the iPhone 5 announcement. It looks like T-Mobile might not get the iPhone 5 this year.

Not so real CGIs

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LeMansX5 09-21-2011 02:40 PM

Apple's Next Event to Be Held on October 4, Starring Its New CEO - John Paczkowski - Mobile - AllThingsD

Apple's Tim Cook hosts October 4 iPhone 5 launch - Computerworld Blogs

LeMansX5 09-27-2011 12:14 PM

Apple iPhone 5 event is a go for October 4 | ZDNet

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/27/tech/s...phone-5-event/

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new...ent_invite.jpg

PersonaNonGrata 09-28-2011 01:13 PM

Well we shall see. T-Mobile confirmed that they will not get the iPhone.

LeMansX5 09-28-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata (Post 845194)
Well we shall see. T-Mobile confirmed that they will not get the iPhone.

...till early 2012.

LeMansX5 09-29-2011 08:07 PM

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'iPhone 5' to Support 21 Mbps HSPA+ '4G' Technology - Mac Rumors

iPhone 5 gets realistic mockup in aluminum, glass - SlashGear



Mock-up based on case designs

PersonaNonGrata 09-29-2011 11:40 PM

It'll be cool! The word I got from a Verizon rep is that it will be expensive. The iPhone 4 was at the subsidized price of $200. Supposedly the 4 will be $300. Of course it's another rumor but I'd believe it.

LeMansX5 10-01-2011 03:13 PM

Apple's new Assistant interface


Apple has sent out some premature iCloud welcome emails. AppleInsider publishes a welcome email that was sent to one of its readers:

http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new...loud110930.png

LeMansX5 10-02-2011 01:42 AM

New Leaks Suggest iPhone 4S and Sprint iPhone 5 Tuesday Launch | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

LeMansX5 10-04-2011 01:44 PM

iOS 5 releases on October 12th.
Apple's 'Let's Talk iPhone' keynote liveblog! -- Engadget

LeMansX5 10-04-2011 02:58 PM

iPhone 4S only...
http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html

E61Silver 10-04-2011 04:09 PM

No 4g, then no new I Phone for me.

Meiac09 10-04-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 845903)
No 4g no new I Phone for me.

it has HSDPA.... That is 4G as we know it.

PersonaNonGrata 10-04-2011 06:08 PM

All of the hype, rumors, and mock ups prove to be Vaporware. It's neither an iPhone 5 nor is it a mini iPad 2 look. I find it all funny. Apple rumors is a new Internet sport.

iPhone 4s is cool and with some nice improvements but I'm not ditching my 4 for it. If someone is on a 3G then it's a worthwhile jump.

E61Silver 10-04-2011 06:12 PM

Only on At&T

AT&T iPhone 4S Will Be Faster Than Verizon and Sprint's

PersonaNonGrata 10-04-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 845928)

The best line from that article:

"(Key caveat, of course: That's a theoretical max speed, and if your AT&T service is terrible now, don't expect it to be magically a million times better and faster.)"

AT&T, at least where I am, stinks. I'd rather have consistent, reliable, and clear voice service with VZW than any theoretical benefits with AT&T. ;)

Quicksilver 10-04-2011 07:06 PM

Hey i've got a 3G and i'm out of contract so I can bring it home try it on AT&T and if I don't like it I can send it packing. Still I'll wait a bit for the details which i'm sure will show up around these parts.

LeMansX5 10-04-2011 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata (Post 845925)
All of the hype, rumors, and mock ups prove to be Vaporware. It's neither an iPhone 5 nor is it a mini iPad 2 look. I find it all funny. Apple rumors is a new Internet sport.

iPhone 4s is cool and with some nice improvements but I'm not ditching my 4 for it. If someone is on a 3G then it's a worthwhile jump.

Disappointment as competition is having a new smartphone every 3 to 6 months. And after 16 months Apple still could not deliver a new hardware. Still the same 16 month old hardware in this fast changing smartphone world.
My guess is that Apple is running into some tech challenges with the new revolutionary design hardware and now we will see iPhone 5 in June 2012.

Apple's big iPhone disappointment

WSJ poll shows majority does not want to upgrade to 4S.

iPhone 4S vs. the smartphone elite: Galaxy S II, Bionic and Titan -- Engadget

Quicksilver 10-04-2011 07:41 PM

I believe this comment (Part of which I borrowed) sums it up nicely.

Here we go again. The outside hardware didn't look different. The predictably shallow public were wanting something that said "5" on it. A model that would be visibly differentiated enough from the current "4" model that when, from a reasonable distance away, they walked around chatting and surfing, it would be apparent to all just how fashionable they were to be in possession of the latest, most expensive model.

Despite the fact that this phone should be twice as fast, have better download speeds due to the antenna configuration, and have a much-improved camera, it isn't enough. Apple is asking consumers to shell out the $$$ for a Polo rugby sweater that doesn't have an embroidered rider where the public can see it.

Remember Apple didn't pump all the hype for this update so the disappointment belongs
to those who did. Compared to my 3G (which cannot run OS5) I believe it will be a nice upgrade.

PersonaNonGrata 10-04-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 845937)
Disappointment as competition is having a new smartphone every 3 to 6 months. And after 16 months Apple still could not deliver a new hardware. Still the same 16 month old hardware in this fast changing smartphone world.
My guess is that Apple is running into some tech challenges with the new revolutionary design hardware and now we will see iPhone 5 in June 2012.

Apple's big iPhone disappointment

WSJ poll shows majority does not want to upgrade to 4S.

iPhone 4S vs. the smartphone elite: Galaxy S II, Bionic and Titan -- Engadget

It's definitely a disappointment, most of all for those who were eagerly awaiting an upgrade. It is indeed true that after 16 months Apple should have come out with something much better. Apple dropped the ball on the iPhone but maybe you're right that it's limited by the ability to adapt the iPhone to newer tech. 4G takes up too much power (and space?) to fit in current designs.

The dual core A5 processor is a nice improvement but maybe it's just me, my iPad 2 is not all that much better speed wise compared to my iPad 1. Perhaps it's my apps that don't demand too much CPU power but really, I didn't go "oh wow" when I got my iPad 2.

I think the bigger, and much cooler, announcement is iCloud. That is what I want to get going!

Quicksilver 10-04-2011 07:52 PM

What exactly were people expecting? If they were expecting an upgrade then that's exactly what they got. If they were expecting a "NEW" phone then what were they looking for? :dunno:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata (Post 845944)
It's definitely a disappointment, most of all for those who were eagerly awaiting an upgrade. It is indeed true that after 16 months Apple should have come out with something much better.


PersonaNonGrata 10-04-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 845936)
Hey i've got a 3G and i'm out of contract so I can bring it home try it on AT&T and if I don't like it I can send it packing. Still I'll wait a bit for the details which i'm sure will show up around these parts.

Exactly! For those with a 3G the 4S is great. A colleague asked me if she should upgrade to which I advised no, until she told me she has a 3GS. Then I told her to definitely upgrade.

For 4 users, I don't think the upgrade is worth the extra money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 845942)
I believe this comment (Part of which I borrowed) sums it up nicely.

Here we go again. The outside hardware didn't look different. The predictably shallow public were wanting something that said "5" on it. A model that would be visibly differentiated enough from the current "4" model that when, from a reasonable distance away, they walked around chatting and surfing, it would be apparent to all just how fashionable they were to be in possession of the latest, most expensive model.

Despite the fact that this phone should be twice as fast, have better download speeds due to the antenna configuration, and have a much-improved camera, it isn't enough. Apple is asking consumers to shell out the $$$ for a Polo rugby sweater that doesn't have an embroidered rider where the public can see it.

Remember Apple didn't pump all the hype for this update so the disappointment belongs
to those who did. Compared to my 3G (which cannot run OS5) I believe it will be a nice upgrade.

I also think that the hype is overblown by bloggers and Interweb prognosticators and I find great amusement in their wild guesses and "predictions" ahead of the official announcement. I enjoy their disappointment. (This includes a couple of my friends and my father-in-law.)

I find that criticism funny (from whoever it was written by) because it is likely the same person who would have been equally captivated and entralled if Apple had debuted a sleek new form factor. It's easy to be so earnest in hindsight.

PersonaNonGrata 10-04-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 845946)
What exactly were people expecting? If they were expecting an upgrade then that's exactly what they got. If they were expecting a "NEW" phone then what were they looking for? :dunno:

It was all the hype by bloggers and tech writers who posted all about "sources" in China and Taiwan that swore that they had inside information about bigger displays, thinner profile, etc. I think that's what people were expecting. They were expecting a "NEW" phone.

I think it's disappointing because the competition is heating up and pressure from Samsung and HTC are increasing and Apple isn't as revolutionary as they normally are. I guess it's that Apple created a really great smartphone that is still a class leader in many ways so the expectation is that in the face of improvements by competitors, Apple would have reset the bar.

As I have stated, I am not running out to replace my 4. I'm rather happy with it.

Quicksilver 10-04-2011 08:21 PM

Believe me I understand exactly what you mean. I wasn't one of those who went for the hype. I believe Apple knows that the competition is heating up and pressure from Samsung and HTC are increasing and personally I'm glad to see it happen.

It's just my opinion but I honestly don't think 16 months is enough time in the face of improvements by competitors, for Apple to reset the bar the way they usually do and introduce a "NEW" phone.

As far as the previous comment I posted: I believe some people have much lower expectations from a form factor perspective and are earnest about that from a honest standpoint. Personally I'm fine with the way my 3G is in that regard. If I had an iPhone 4 I might not look to upgrade either but I wasn't looking for a new form factor just additional Carrier options,increased speed,
the new OS, and some of the additional options the 4S has.

Imo if the 4S doesn't offer anything significant the that's money in a persons pocket. No need to follow the cell phone Jones by jumping on a new device every time one comes out.





Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata (Post 845951)
It was all the hype by bloggers and tech writers who posted all about "sources" in China and Taiwan that swore that they had inside information about bigger displays, thinner profile, etc. I think that's what people were expecting. They were expecting a "NEW" phone.

I think it's disappointing because the competition is heating up and pressure from Samsung and HTC are increasing and Apple isn't as revolutionary as they normally are. I guess it's that Apple created a really great smartphone that is still a class leader in many ways so the expectation is that in the face of improvements by competitors, Apple would have reset the bar.

As I have stated, I am not running out to replace my 4. I'm rather happy with it.


Quicksilver 10-04-2011 10:39 PM

AT&T goes meta: your iPhone 4S upgrade is just an app away -- Engadget

LeMansX5 10-04-2011 11:01 PM

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I have been anxiously waiting for new hardware iPhone, as I want to move away from AT&T to Verizon. Did not like the iPhone 4's sharp edges brick look so held on to my 3GS. Now, I may just go to the dark side and get a Android smartphone. ;) :(

The sleek phone Corning shows in the video below is the future.


LeMansX5 10-04-2011 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 845956)
Believe me I understand exactly what you mean. I wasn't one of those who went for the hype. I believe Apple knows that the competition is heating up and pressure from Samsung and HTC are increasing and personally I'm glad to see it happen.

It's just my opinion but I honestly don't think 16 months is enough time in the face of improvements by competitors, for Apple to reset the bar the way they usually do and introduce a "NEW" phone.

As far as the previous comment I posted: I believe some people have much lower expectations from a form factor perspective and are earnest about that from a honest standpoint. Personally I'm fine with the way my 3G is in that regard. If I had an iPhone 4 I might not look to upgrade either but I wasn't looking for a new form factor just additional Carrier options,increased speed,
the new OS, and some of the additional options the 4S has.

Imo if the 4S doesn't offer anything significant the that's money in a persons pocket. No need to follow the cell phone Jones by jumping on a new device every time one comes out.

It appears in the last 16+ months Apple has just been concentrating on software functionality and hardware improvements to "existing form factor", not to a "new form factor" or they have been and the new form factor is still not ready for prime time yet. They could have still increased the screen size by little and rounded off the edges on the iPhone 4.

Marketing has taken a back seat.;)

Quicksilver 10-05-2011 12:17 AM

You might be right about the new form factor not being ready. I can't imagine them re-tooling
just to increase the screen size by little and round off the edges. That to me would have been
disappointing and non productive from a production perspective.

Some of your previous post have demonstrated translucent phone bodies
which some of us have seen in movies and on TV and that may be where the future lies.
But i'm sure you would agree that although that would attract a lot of attention it wouldn't
do much good if the hardware and software didn't live up to the exterior design.

I may be wrong and you can correct me if you wish but except for a serious speed
bump and an updated camera, twin antenna's iOS5 should give iPhone 4 users pretty
much everything that was demonstrated which to me means a better phone for "NO MONEY".
It's people like me that have to decide to shell out the dough for the new 4S because the new OS will not work on my iPhone.

(EDIT) Apple will pay $200 for your gently used iPhone 4 | Phones | Macworld



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Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 845977)
It appears in the last 16+ months Apple has just been concentrating on software functionality and hardware improvements to "existing form factor", not to a "new form factor" or they have been and the new form factor is still not ready for prime time yet. They could have still increased the screen size by little and rounded off the edges on the iPhone 4.

Marketing has taken a back seat.;)


E61Silver 10-05-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata (Post 845933)
The best line from that article:

"(Key caveat, of course: That's a theoretical max speed, and if your AT&T service is terrible now, don't expect it to be magically a million times better and faster.)"

AT&T, at least where I am, stinks. I'd rather have consistent, reliable, and clear voice service with VZW than any theoretical benefits with AT&T. ;)


I use VZW as well and have no plans on changing service providers. I have a Droid X and it is working just fine. Given that I have no need to get a new phone I will wait. If the 4S offered 4G speed on VZW I would purchase it but since it does not I will wait.

E61Silver 10-05-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 845976)
I have been anxiously waiting for new hardware iPhone, as I want to move away from AT&T to Verizon. Did not like the iPhone 4's sharp edges brick look so held on to my 3GS. Now, I may just go to the dark side and get a Android smartphone. ;) :(

If you have Apple computers and need a new phone I would go with the 4S. It will be work better with you calendar, contact and email. I still have issues with my Droid X with regard to deleting email and them showing-up on my Outlook on my computer. The Apple software is better and the lack of 4G would not be a deal breaker since the service area is limited.

If you don't need a new phone like me, waiting is the way to go; in another 6 months to a year the 4G service area will be larger and we might have availability of the I phone 5.

LeMansX5 10-05-2011 11:44 AM

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PersonaNonGrata 10-07-2011 01:34 PM

So the much anticipated hype about the iPhone hitting Sprint is reality. It's great for Sprint folks and Sprint is being pretty fair about allowing even special discount plans access to the iPhone.

What I think will be interesting to see is if Sprint's network can handle the additional load and while offering unlimited data. I ditched Sprint for VZ and don't regret it. My coverage is much better than Sprint so any additional I pay is worth it.

Quicksilver 10-07-2011 03:15 PM

Well Sprint is last to be considered between the 3 choices. If AT&T has better reception than what my 3G gets at home, and I can keep my same plan then that's who I will go with AT&T. Still haven't decided though. It's just too early in the game.

brian5 10-07-2011 03:19 PM

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E61Silver 10-07-2011 04:37 PM

Wonder if the I phone will be released in the spring?

brian5 10-07-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 846315)
Wonder if the I phone will be released in the spring?

I predict June 2012 for the iPhone 5.

Would be happy to be proved wrong and see it before that though :)

Quicksilver 10-07-2011 05:52 PM

Why?

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Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 846315)
Wonder if the I phone will be released in the spring?


LeMansX5 10-07-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 846315)
Wonder if the I phone will be released in the spring?

Maybe iPad3, but no way iPhone 5 is coming before at least June 2012 or Fall 2012.

E61Silver 10-08-2011 09:17 AM

I can wait until June 2012 for the I Phone 5 however if it is the fall or winter of 2012 I might as well upgrade now.

E61Silver 10-15-2011 08:20 AM

So did anyone get a 4S?

Quicksilver 11-08-2011 02:33 PM

Last time they didn't recommend the iPhone 4.
This time around they're on board. Who cares???

Now that the iPhone 4S does have Consumer Reports’s endorsement
I guess the world is a better place....... Yup

Consumer Reports recommends the iPhone 4S | Macworld


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