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noncom23 12-06-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 910275)
I had carbon problems with my 08 535 at 50,000 miles. I understand that Audi has bigger problems and Lexus has a extra injector that sprays gas to avoid the problem.

Wow! Good post. I need to read on this.
Any sources you might have on that Lexus fix
would really be appreciated. Obviously I
will googlize it also.

Thx ahead.

FSETH 12-06-2012 09:58 AM

Carbon problems in BMW's is much, much less common than Audi. I have a feeling E61Silver puttered his car around everwhere he went or it was simply a fluke.

E61Silver 12-06-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FSETH (Post 910279)
Carbon problems in BMW's is much, much less common than Audi. I have a feeling E61Silver puttered his car around everwhere he went or it was simply a fluke.


I did a monthly trip to Maryland, 500 miles round trip, at well over the speed limit. I also do most of my mileage on the Highway so I don't think that is the issue.

I also don't think it is a fluke if you read other BMW boards they talk about the problem. The fact that it is a turbo seems to be a big factor. The fuel injection system was a big problem and BMW changing my fuel pump twice and injectors, I also recently had a problem with the value timing. The problems with the fuel injection system were so bad that BMW had a formal recall and extend the coverage on that system to 100,000 miles.

The car at 50,000 now runs better than new and shows no signs of age/wear, I have CPO coverage for another 4 years and love the car but it has required lots of repair.

FSETH 12-06-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 910288)
I did a monthly trip to Maryland, 500 miles round trip, at well over the speed limit. I also do most of my mileage on the Highway so I don't think that is the issue.

I also don't think it is a fluke if you read other BMW boards they talk about the problem. The fact that it is a turbo seems to be a big factor. The fuel injection system was a big problem and BMW change my fuel pump twice and injectors, I also recently had a problem with the value timing. The problems with the fuel injection system were so bad that BMW had a formal recall and extend the coverage on that system to 100,000 miles.

The car at 50,000 now runs better than new and shows no signs of age/wear, I have CPO coverage for another 4 years and love the car but it has required lots of repair.

Not sure. I really haven't read of too many carbon issues in modern BMW engines. Not nearly as many as Audi.

Also, cruising on the highway at lower RPM is not the same a revving the engine out, which helps clear out carbon. Speed doesn't matter. High RPM's do.

AzNMpower32 12-06-2012 07:05 PM

Audi makes some excellent vehicles. I haven't driven most of them but the A3 is a favourite of mine, although the current outgoing one is dated.

I don't understand the whole carbon build up thing. Drive the cars like they're meant to be driven, all should be well. There's a line between abuse and use, and I think "use" is good for a car. Given my rural location, my X3 sees typical European hwy speeds (120-160km/h @ 2750-4750rpm) for extended periods every week and usually when I need to overtake a vehicle on a backroad, it's redline in a couple gears with some frequency.

SANguru 12-07-2012 12:11 AM

over the speed limit lugging in 6 gear doesn't mean you are working out the engine.. you have to run it really hot.. It has nothing to do with the turbos really...

Quote:

Originally Posted by E61Silver (Post 910288)
I did a monthly trip to Maryland, 500 miles round trip, at well over the speed limit. I also do most of my mileage on the Highway so I don't think that is the issue.

I also don't think it is a fluke if you read other BMW boards they talk about the problem. The fact that it is a turbo seems to be a big factor. The fuel injection system was a big problem and BMW changing my fuel pump twice and injectors, I also recently had a problem with the value timing. The problems with the fuel injection system were so bad that BMW had a formal recall and extend the coverage on that system to 100,000 miles.

The car at 50,000 now runs better than new and shows no signs of age/wear, I have CPO coverage for another 4 years and love the car but it has required lots of repair.


E61Silver 12-08-2012 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AzNMpower32 (Post 910362)
Audi makes some excellent vehicles. I haven't driven most of them but the A3 is a favourite of mine, although the current outgoing one is dated.

I don't understand the whole carbon build up thing. Drive the cars like they're meant to be driven, all should be well. There's a line between abuse and use, and I think "use" is good for a car. Given my rural location, my X3 sees typical European hwy speeds (120-160km/h @ 2750-4750rpm) for extended periods every week and usually when I need to overtake a vehicle on a backroad, it's redline in a couple gears with some frequency.

As stated most of driving is on the highway yes at low rpm. The only time I push the car is when I pass a jerk doing 55 in the fast lane. So I guess you and number of others are right that I don't normally rev the car hard. I Saw a post on another forum suggesting that you down shift the car to 4th and drive it at higher rpm once a month fo 30 minutes to help prevent the problem. The post also said quick bursts of rpm do little to help the issue.

With regard to your x3 if I remember right it has a small engine so I guess you have to push it hard to pass.

jgold47 12-08-2012 10:38 AM

you mean volkswagen right?

Not audi

There hasnt been a real audi in 30 years.

sharp looking cars, but like everything in the VAG, they look and feel great for about a year, maybe two, then start wearing like shit. I've been in 2 year old A8's that just look worn out.

PersonaNonGrata 12-09-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 910548)
you mean volkswagen right?

Not audi

There hasnt been a real audi in 30 years.

sharp looking cars, but like everything in the VAG, they look and feel great for about a year, maybe two, then start wearing like shit. I've been in 2 year old A8's that just look worn out.

Care to elaborate?

E61Silver 12-09-2012 09:46 PM

I have to say that Audi is doing quite well. The A6 is nicer than the 5 which has become a big boat. That said the fact that Audi and BMW has carbon issues is unacceptable. Not sure that I would purchase another German car.


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