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SNIFFLES 05-29-2006 12:05 AM

DSP....does it really stink this bad?
 
I didnt want to be doin any stereo mods to a leased car but this DSP is the pits isn't it?
I ordered the premium radio package but i really think i should have saved my money :(
Any advice?

benathon 05-29-2006 01:57 AM

Most stereo places will uninstall the stuff at lease end for free...

DINANM3 05-29-2006 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SNIFFLES
I didnt want to be doin any stereo mods to a leased car but this DSP is the pits isn't it?
I ordered the premium radio package but i really think i should have saved my money :(
Any advice?

I orderd it too and think it was a waste of money. I dont think i will be ordering it on my 2006

SNIFFLES 05-29-2006 09:07 AM

Well I guess I just had to learn the hard way! Would have been sooooo much better off saving the $$$ and going aftermarket! argggggggggggggg!

dkl 05-29-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DINANM3
I orderd it too and think it was a waste of money. I dont think i will be ordering it on my 2006

I think you're better off saving that $1200 and spend it on an aftermarket amp and sub upgrade

cmyX6go 05-29-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIFFLES
I didnt want to be doin any stereo mods to a leased car but this DSP is the pits isn't it?
I ordered the premium radio package but i really think i should have saved my money :(
Any advice?

Basic set up is even worse. I don't get why BMW doesn't offer a better sound system.:dunno:

blondboinsd 05-29-2006 04:59 PM

I think mine is fine and i'm comparing it to my RR's Logic7

Acezoned 05-30-2006 02:55 AM

i think it's fine and i spend many hours the studio producing. DSP with Icelink and the correct settings you can live with it.

SNIFFLES 05-30-2006 08:33 AM

Acezoned can you take a picture of your dsp settngs for me ?

PeterNYC 05-30-2006 02:54 PM

i like the DSP sound...i can't remember how much it cost, but it wasn't that much...Personally, i like to stay stock with that kind of thing, but that's just me....I am a bit of an audiofile, and i love the "poppy" sound of the DSP...i don't really like heavy bass, so it suits me well

Sorry you feel it was a "waste"

Acezoned 05-30-2006 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIFFLES
Acezoned can you take a picture of your dsp settngs for me ?

I can, but they are a modified from the below link. Modified memo 1-3 for listening to Ipod via Icelink only, no cd and listen to radio rarely. Ipod tracks at avg. 192k bit rate using soundcheck on ipod (not itunes)

http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/x5/s...gs-bmw-x5.html

SNIFFLES 05-30-2006 06:52 PM

Set it to that and it sounded quite poor actually, but thanks anyway

simon78 05-31-2006 11:30 AM

Do you think may be just changing the speaker would help the sound ?

slicksterps1 01-31-2007 12:00 PM

I tried those setting too and the sound totaly sucked! I stagered them up and down and it sounded better. I will send pics later.

x5GuyInLA 01-31-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SNIFFLES
Set it to that and it sounded quite poor actually, but thanks anyway

What source do you mainly listen from? The quality from the radio isn't great and if you're using the aux input, make sure you have it hooked up to the audio out instead of the headphones jack. Also, make sure your mp3s are at least 192kbps and up. 160kbps is ok, but try to stay away from 128kbps. I listen to mp3s via the cd changer and the mids and highs sound pretty good when listening to mp3s at 192kbps. I have a similar setting to the one Acezoned mentioned, except I have the 80hz on the EQ setting up almost all the way and on the tone setting, I have the treble set about +4-5 over flat and the bass at about +1-2 over flat. If you want more bass, best would be to go aftermarket. Just make sure to adjust your EQ and tone settings accordingly; with the subwoofer in, I have both the frequency at 80hz and the bass control flat because I can control the bass using a bass knob. As far as mids and highs, seems like a lot of people here have gone with the BSW upgrade and are happy with it. Good luck!

noncom23 01-31-2007 05:43 PM

http://www.xoutpost.com/bsws-mobile-e...t=dsp+settings
I had luck with these.



Quote:

Originally Posted by slicksterps1
I tried those setting too and the sound totaly sucked! I stagered them up and down and it sounded better. I will send pics later.


the head 01-31-2007 06:10 PM

Just installed the new Oz audio Matrix Elite three-way components (1"tweet, 4"mid, 6.5"midbass) on an all stock system in my maserati they sound amazing! clean frequency response from 40khz to 32hz solid sounding and performing set plus they have more bass then most 10" amp sub combos I have heard in X5s.

slicksterps1 01-31-2007 09:46 PM

I listen to hip hop and pop and rock, mostly stuff I download for Lime wire burned onto a CD. But with those setting I get too much bass or thump, Sounds too much hum sound I don’t know that much about the tech side of it all… I just know what sounds I like to hear. With clean and clear bass mids and treble. :band:

Wagner 01-31-2007 09:52 PM

I think I'm the only BMW owner who doesn't think it sucks, but then again, I added a 10" sub to it.

slicksterps1 01-31-2007 10:08 PM

Hmmmmm.. That might make a deferance, I dont have a 10" :rolleyes: sub... It's all good ! I still like my sound, I was just looking for a short cut to the best sound settings, this is my first BMW. And be sure I am just happy to be hear! ;)

Quicksilver 01-31-2007 11:23 PM

If your doing the studio thing then we are on the same page regarding the DSP thing. I have often said that it depends on what you listen to in the X5. I have an Eric Benet/Terry Dexter-buttered soul remix "Spend my life with you". That single sounds so good in the X that it's hard to believe it's the same system when i play other mixes. There are other selections that stand out also but i have been use to listening to music from a flat freq response for a long time so i have gotten used to what the X5 is gonna do with different music. :thumbup: The ears also play a part

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Originally Posted by Acezoned
i think it's fine and i spend many hours the studio producing. DSP with Icelink and the correct settings you can live with it.


x5GuyInLA 02-01-2007 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicksterps1
I listen to hip hop and pop and rock, mostly stuff I download for Lime wire burned onto a CD. But with those setting I get too much bass or thump, Sounds too much hum sound I don’t know that much about the tech side of it all… I just know what sounds I like to hear. With clean and clear bass mids and treble. :band:

if you're getting too much bass, then turn down the bass settings to where you like them.

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Originally Posted by WagnerX5
I think I'm the only BMW owner who doesn't think it sucks, but then again, I added a 10" sub to it.

I'm right there with you Wagner...I think the mids and highs in the X don't sound bad at all.

Quicksilver 02-01-2007 12:33 AM

NO dis-respect but if thats what your listening to, and if thats where you got the music then i suggest that #1 your source is not very good #2 you cant expect to get good results when the recorded quality of the music you downloaded was bad to begin with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slicksterps1
I listen to hip hop and pop and rock, mostly stuff I download for Lime wire burned onto a CD. But with those setting I get too much bass or thump, Sounds too much hum sound I don’t know that much about the tech side of it all… I just know what sounds I like to hear. With clean and clear bass mids and treble. :band:


Acezoned 02-01-2007 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
NO dis-respect but if thats what your listening to, and if thats where you got the music then i suggest that #1 your source is not very good #2 you cant expect to get good results when the recorded quality of the music you downloaded was bad to begin with.

Exactly, bad in bad out. The crap you get off the internet is all over the map. Lame uploads and the music companies are spending millions of dollars putting bogus files out there to mess with you. You're getting songs in various bit rates that between the eq on ipod, eq in car, dsp, soundcheck setting in ipod and compressed bit rates at likely various levels you're getting a messy output.
Limewire is contributing to killing the music business and is loaded with spyware and usage tracking agents.
Save the music business, you'll thank us later.

noncom23 02-01-2007 12:42 PM

http://www.xoutpost.com/bsws-mobile-e...t=dsp+settings
Sorry,these...

slicksterps1 02-11-2007 02:36 PM

Here is what sounds good in my X5 :thumbup:

dmlgc 03-27-2007 08:32 PM

well I have an 06 , mostly listen to CD's ( thinking about ipod conversion) and I love it. There are a couple of top gun songs that make the outside mirrors vibrate. My wife wishes she would have ordered it for her 330 06. don't listen to music on radio only talk , never use the hidden cassette ( what were they thinking).

alpac 03-27-2007 09:46 PM

With some simple improvments like a sub amp and a good subwoofer to get more profond bass and the BSW speaker upgrade the DSP system is really transformed. I am an audiophile, I like all kind of music and I do really like the way my DSP sounds now. Proof that the basis is not bad. Yes you can do better but for much more money and the difference is not worth the price IMO.

Boston X5 4.4 03-28-2007 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by alpac
With some simple improvments like a sub amp and a good subwoofer to get more profond bass and the BSW speaker upgrade the DSP system is really transformed. I am an audiophile, I like all kind of music and I do really like the way my DSP sounds now. Proof that the basis is not bad. Yes you can do better but for much more money and the difference is not worth the price IMO.

If you are going to add amp, sub and speaker upgrades anyway, is the $1,200 extra really worth it for DSP.
Wouldn't the same upgrades to the stock non-DSP system have ended up with the same end result?

alpac 03-30-2007 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston X5 4.4
If you are going to add amp, sub and speaker upgrades anyway, is the $1,200 extra really worth it for DSP.
Wouldn't the same upgrades to the stock non-DSP system have ended up with the same end result?

I added a sub amp, replaced the stock 6" subs by one integrated 10" Sub and I upgraded the mid ranges with DSW ones and I spent about $400 all together plus my time.

dirtdevilnc 01-12-2010 12:34 AM

I have DSP/NAV in my X5 and was very unimpressed with the sound when listening to both CDs/MP3s and the radio.
This past weekend I installed an aux input and with my ipod hooked up to it with the ipod eq set to loudness I actually have a new sound which emanates from my stereo, bass ! Its not exactly what i would call deep or very accurate bass but it actually has some now.
Looking into 3 series for my next car, not sure I will fall for BMWs "premium" stereo option this time unless they have vastly improved.


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