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beepbird 03-09-2009 05:21 PM

DSP took a swim
 
Hi,
My 2003 X5 premium sound - no Nav took a swim :yikes: when I went scuba diving and about 1/2 gal fresh water from a solar shower splashed in the back. (I had the rubber mat too) I replaced the DSP and the speakers now play flat music but the radio still doesn't recognize the DSP. My mechanic is no audiophile and is all out of ideas. He did clean some of the wire connections.

Can you help?

Thanks!

Lindy

Brian-bmw 03-09-2009 08:43 PM

Did you replace it with a new or used DSP amp? If you installed a used DSP amp, it probably just needs to be coded by a dealer to make things right. (A new amp definitely needs coding to work properly.)

beepbird 03-10-2009 12:43 PM

We replaced it with a new DSP amp. My mechanic said he coded it properly and told me to drive it for 50-100 miles for it to recognize the amp. 120 miles later and it still doesn't work.

Brian-bmw 03-10-2009 05:57 PM

He is full of bull. When you code a DSP amp, it is immediately correct. It does not require "50 - 100 miles" of driving. That is nuts. (I have coded several myself, and I know exactly what is involved.) I would bet he got a used amp, or he never coded it.

What is the part number on the amp? A new one should cost about $1,100 from a BMW dealer and be part number 65.12-6 940 977.

beepbird 03-11-2009 12:30 AM

The bottom of the unit says Interfire Model A-800.5.
The independent mechanic said it was new and he charged me $720 for it and $145 for labor and coding. Did he get anything right? When it still didn't work and I brought it back, he charged me $185 to rewire and code and it is still not working.

I'm supposed to see a guy I know that works at a BMW dealership on Friday.

My comprehensive insurance was supposed to cover the damages minus the deductible.

Thanks for your help!
Lindy

Brian-bmw 03-11-2009 06:59 AM

I am not familiar with anything labeled "Interfire A-800.5." A DSP amp will be manufactured by Lear. Older DSP amps were made by Loewe and Philips. All BMW parts have a part number in the format "xx.xx-x xxx xxx" or just the last 7 digits "x xxx xx." Look for the BMW part number on the part, then we can identify it. Or, post a picture, and maybe we can recognize it.

The second $185 that the mechanic charged you should be refunded. There is absolutely no rewiring that could have been possible. All BMW electronic parts are plug-and-play replaceable-- other than unplugging something and plugging the something back in, a mechanic can not really change anything. Plus, if he coded it the first time, then there is no coding that would have been possible the second time.

Brian-bmw 03-11-2009 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by beepbird
The bottom of the unit says Interfire Model A-800.5...

I just did a search, and the Interfire A-800.5 is an inexpensive aftermarket 5 channel amplifier. Is there any chance that your mechanic removed your OE DSP amplifier and installed an aftermarket amplifier in its place? If so, he could have done some severe damage to your car's wiring.

If he exchanged the DSP amp for an aftermarket amp, that would explain why DSP is not detected and why it sounds flat. All of the DSP processing is in the DSP amp, and it is a required component for the car. By the way, an aftermarket amp does not need coding at all.

beepbird 03-11-2009 07:55 PM

Hack job
 
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Brian,
I took a look around and took a few pictures. You are right there appears to be a few cables cut and a strange clear box with a circuit board inside was installed.


What would you say my options are right now?

Thanks!

Lindy

zerochief 03-11-2009 08:14 PM

Brian-bmw is a very informative member here and I would go with his recommendations, period. I have read several of his posts and they are spot on.

Now for my opinion :rolleyes: ... I would take it back to the guy and have him remove what he installed; mend back the wires he cut and get the DSP harness back in order. Then I would buy a OEM DSP amp like this one for $325. Next, install the OEM DSP amp yourself and then take it to the dealer for coding. Depending on what you have in writing with that shop, you may have to settle for a partial refund.

Good luck with all that and I hope you get it back in order! :thumbup:

NIGHTMAREuki 03-11-2009 09:20 PM

holy sh!t, i would have ripped the guy a new one if this was done to my car, woow. imbeciles

try to get as much money back as you can, he damaged your car, thats horrible


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