Enabling Features in the V26 code
 

Hi,

To keep everyone updated Nomad has spent some considerable effort exporting modules from the Nav firmware and comparing them to v26.09. He has found the module that adds the menu item for perspective mode, and thinks he can add it in failry easily.

This is the same guy who figured out the proper checksum fo us to make logo changes, so make sure and give him a big thanks for all of his efforts.

Below is where he stands on adding modes to v26 firmware.

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In the v26.09A There are 3 map modes:
1. 2D pointing north
2. 2D travel direction
3. 3D

System creates a menu then add clicable items in it:
CreateMenu(...);

AddMenuItem(0, "Pointing Norh", ...);
SetOnClickProc(0, point_north_click_proc, ...);

AddMenuItem(1, "Travel Direction", ...); SetOnClickProc(1, travel_dir_click_proc, ...);

AddMenuItem(2, "Perspective", ...);
SetOnClickProc(2, perspective_click_proc, ...);

ShowMenu(...);

When you select item, the apropiate clic procedure is called.
Click procedure for Point North looks like this:

turn_ON_point_north_mode(...);
turn_OFF_travel_dir_mode(...);
turn_OFF_perspective_mode(...);
RedrawMap(...);

Click procedure for 'Travel Direction' and 'Perspective' modes looks similar.

Each click procedure enable mode you selected, then disable two othre modes.
So 3D mode works in v26.09 and works after downgrade to v26. Unless you select 'Travel Direction' or 'Pointing North'.

The bad news:

v26 software adds only TWO items to map direction menu: 'pointing north' and 'travel direction'.
And there is no click procedure to switch to 3D mode.
Solution is to insert some code to add 3rd menu item and click procedure for it.

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We are currently looking at options such as adding in the menu item or nuking the Travel North menu item in excahnge for Perspective mode

Regards,
Martin

Thanks Martin, this is great stuff !!!

If we have to nuke one of the options, my preference would be to nuke the 2D Travel Direction mode. The reason being is that it would be somewhat redundant to the 3D mode (which is also direction of travel) and would leave an option for Pointing North (which I use alot in city driving).

As a boater, I am oriented to maps pointing north and that is how my brain is wired ;)

Thanks for spearheading this!!

Jeff

Guys, This is great stuff.
I own a 2004 330Ci convertible and a 2003 Range Rover. I have taken out the MK3 from the Range rover and fitted a MK4 unit to tie in better with the Beemer.
When I did this I lost the Off Road Navigation function that Landrover had activated in their software. I would love to get it back! Is this now a possibility? I'm sure X5 & X3 owners would be interested!
Equally is there scope for altering the colour scheme to a bespoke setting?

Can supply a copy of the Range Rover software if anyone is interested.

----UPDATE---- EDIT----Not for distribution yet. .... Give us a little time

Nomad is emailing me the code now. Anyone want to alpha test it?

One caveat. You could screw up your system, and we could not take any blame.

Some posters in Germany have said that some of the initial testing of Perspective mode using that v26.09a caused faults that damaged the unit, so keep that in mind when loading NON-BMW RELEASED Firmware!

A personally am going to wait until my test mule BMW comes back into the garage before loading the firmware.

I will post the new navboot file shortly

Martin

I'm brave, but not that brave!! :nervous:

Martin - I like being out there on the bleeding edge, consider me a volunteer.

Testing a beta software in my car - I would also test it and give feedback. Isn´t it something that should be recognized in history? The first custom Hacked car Software :rofl:

Regarding the nuke thing I am in line with UCrewX5...

Greetings from Switzerland

Minister

Maybe I am misssing the point here but what are you going to gain by updating version 26 to 3d view ?

This may be slightly off-topic but is there any way to mute the navigation guidance directions by default? After entering any destination I always have to mute the voice prompts as I am only following the visual cues anyway. Just a thought.

Here is how it works. Which has tested ok.

The process goes like this.

Upgrade v26.09 downgrade to v26 perspective modified version. The option for pointing north will turn into Perspective

I want to add in off road guidance but this seems more of a challenge.


The point of changing v26 to perspective mode is that v26 released version is two months NEWER than the v26.09 Alpha code that was leaked out recently.

The V26 code does not have the bugs that many are talking about, such as no search by name feature and possibly no issues with the INFO and Select buttons on the OLD GEN radios that are upgraded to MKIV.

We could try to change it but the Pointing North option was the one nuked for perspective.

it is travel direction and perspective. will take photo soon, doing some uploading of the file for special pre-testing.

Just as a disclaimer, using any hacked software in your system INCLUDING the logo change seems harmless, although could be destructive to your system. Use any of these tools at your own risk

Martin

Language in navboot file :-)

1/268: No response to dialog
1/269: Service was suspended
1/26a: Requested Data successfully transferred.
1/26b: Please check your telephone
1/26c: Here you can have the services of your
1/26d: BMW Assist activated. Encrypted data is
1/26e: exchanged in 4 phases. This procedure
1/26f: must be run once.
1/270:
1/271: Initializing...
1/272: Initalising... No GPS reception
1/273: Initializing... - Phase 1 of 4
1/274: Initializing... - Phase 2 of 4
1/275: Initializing... - Phase 3 of 4
1/276: Initializing... - Phase 4 of 4
1/277: Initialization... - operator call
1/278: A system fault has occurred.
1/279: An error occurred during initialising
1/27a: Initialization is not possible.
1/27b: Your inquiry was rejected.
1/27c: At present you have not applied for BMW Assist
1/27d: Updating - Please wait a moment ...
1/27e: Update... Encrypted data OK
1/27f: Update... Data reception successful
1/280: Update... Not possible
1/281: Update... Invalid request
1/282: Would you like to call the operator?
1/283: Telematic services are terminated.
1/284: Your message could not be processed.
1/285: My Info request in progress
1/286: Update check for new "My Info" messages
1/287: Further messages can be called up.
1/288: Deleting message
1/289: Answer being transmitted
1/28a: Your request could not be transmitted.
1/28b: Your response could not be transmitted.
1/28c: Yes
1/28d: No
1/28e: Thank you
1/28f: Stop
1/290: Inquiry
1/291: Answer
1/292: Roaming
1/293: Caution!
1/294: Activating this function when abroad may incur higher telephone charges.
1/295:
1/296: VIN
1/297: CAR
1/298: Color
1/299: RED
1/29a: ORANGE
1/29b: YELLOW
1/29c: GREEN
1/29d: BLUE
1/29e: BLACK
1/29f: WHITE
1/2a0: SILVER
1/2a1: BROWN
1/2a2: OTHER
1/2a3: UNKNOWN
1/2a4: Vehicle
1/2a5: Travel
1/2a6: Business & Services
1/2a7: Public places, business and shopping
1/2a8: Hotels and Restaurants
1/2a9: Places to visit
1/2aa: Emergency & Public Places
1/2ab: Recreation & Attraction
1/2ac: Nature and Recreation
1/2ad: Entertainment
1/2ae: Banking & Shopping
1/2af: VEHICLE
1/2b0: TRAVEL
1/2b1: BUSINESS & SERVICES
1/2b2: PUBLIC PLACES, BUSINESS & SHOPPING
1/2b3: HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS
1/2b4: EMERGENCY & PUBLIC PLACES
1/2b5: PLACES TO VISIT
1/2b6: RECREATION & ATTRACTION
1/2b7: NATURE AND RECREATION
1/2b8: ENTERTAINMENT
1/2b9: BANKING & SHOPPING
1/2ba: Detour
1/2bb: Monitor has switched off
1/2bc: due to high temperature.
1/2bd:
1/2be: WARNING!
1/2bf: Use this system only when traffic and
1/2c0: environmental conditions permit.
1/2c1: Pay attention to traffic laws and situations.
1/2c2: Safe vehicle operation is the driver's
1/2c3: responsibility.
1/2c4: Always wear your safety belt.
1/2c5: Accept
1/2c6: Please insert key CD or Version 17
1/2c7:
tbl = 2, ts = b50, te = b58
2/0:
2/1:
tbl = 3, ts = b58, te = c1c
3/0: BMW SERVICE
3/1: GAS STATION
3/2: CAR RENTAL
3/3: PARKING
3/4: PARKING + PUBLIC TRANSPORT
3/5: REST AREA
3/6: AUTOMOBILE CLUBS
3/7: TOURIST ATTRACTIONS
3/8: HOTELS AND MOTELS
3/9: RESTAURANTS
3/a: BANKING
3/b: COMMUNITY CENTER
3/c: LIBRARIES
3/d: GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS
3/e: FIRE DEPARTMENTS
3/f: MILITARY BASE
3/10: PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS
3/11: ATM
3/12: TOURIST INFORMATION
3/13: MUSEUMS
3/14: THEATER
3/15: CIVIC CENTER
3/16: SPORTS COMPLEXES
3/17: PLACES OF WORSHIP
3/18: MONUMENTS
3/19: AMUSEMENT PARKS
3/1a: PARK
3/1b: CONVENTION CENTER
3/1c: HOSPITALS
3/1d: POLICE STATIONS
3/1e: CITY HALL
3/1f: POST OFFICES
3/20: HOSPITAL
3/21: PHARMACIES
3/22: SHOPPING CENTERS
3/23: DOWNTOWN AREA
3/24: MOVIE THEATER
3/25: TRAIN STATION
3/26: AIRPORT
3/27: FERRY
3/28: BUS STATION
3/29: WATER SPORTS
3/2a: EDUCATION
3/2b: ENTERTAINMENT
3/2c: GOLFING
3/2d: BUSINESS
3/2e: BMW MOTORCYCLE CENTER / SERVICE
3/2f: BORDER CROSSING
3/30:
tbl = 4, ts = c1c, te = ce0
4/0: BMW CENTER
4/1: GAS STATIONS
4/2: CAR RENTAL
4/3: PARKING
4/4: PARKING + PUBLIC TRANSPORT
4/5: REST AREAS
4/6: AUTOMOBILE CLUBS
4/7: TOURIST ATTRACTIONS
4/8: HOTELS
4/9: RESTAURANTS
4/a: MONEY
4/b: COMMUNITY CENTER
4/c: LIBRARIES
4/d: LEGAL AUTHORITIES
4/e: FIRE STATIONS
4/f: MILITARY BASE
4/10: CONSULATES AND EMBASSIES
4/11: ATM
4/12: TOURIST INFORMATION
4/13: MUSEUMS AND ART GALLERIES
4/14: THEATERS
4/15: CIVIC CENTER
4/16: SPORTS COMPLEXES
4/17: CHURCH
4/18: HISTORICAL MONUMENTS
4/19: AMUSEMENT PARKS
4/1a: PARKS AND GARDENS
4/1b: CIVIC AND CONVENTION CENTERS
4/1c: HOSPITAL
4/1d: POLICE
4/1e: CITY HALLS
4/1f: POST OFFICES
4/20: MEDICAL ASSISTANCE
4/21: PHARMACY
4/22: SHOPPING CENTERS
4/23: DOWNTOWN AREA
4/24: MOVIE THEATERS
4/25: TRAIN STATION
4/26: AIRPORTS
4/27: FERRIES
4/28: BUS STATIONS
4/29: MARINAS
4/2a: COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES
4/2b: ENTERTAINMENT
4/2c: GOLF COURSES
4/2d: BUSINESS ADDRESSES
4/2e: BMW MOTORCYCLE CENTER
4/2f: BORDER CROSSINGS
4/30:
tbl = 5, ts = ce0, te = da4
5/0: MINI CENTER
5/1: GAS STATION
5/2: CAR RENTAL
5/3: PARKING
5/4: PARKING + PUBLIC TRANSPORT
5/5: REST AREA
5/6: AUTOMOBILE CLUBS
5/7: TOURIST ATTRACTIONS
5/8: HOTELS AND MOTELS
5/9: RESTAURANTS
5/a: BANKING
5/b: COMMUNITY CENTER
5/c: LIBRARIES
5/d: GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS
5/e: FIRE DEPARTMENTS
5/f: MILITARY BASE
5/10: PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS
5/11: ATM
5/12: TOURIST INFORMATION
5/13: MUSEUMS
5/14: THEATER
5/15: CIVIC CENTER
5/16: SPORTS COMPLEXES
5/17: PLACES OF WORSHIP
5/18: MONUMENTS
5/19: AMUSEMENT PARKS
5/1a: PARK
5/1b: CONVENTION CENTER
5/1c: HOSPITALS
5/1d: POLICE STATIONS
5/1e: CITY HALL
5/1f: POST OFFICES
5/20: HOSPITAL
5/21: PHARMACIES
5/22: SHOPPING CENTERS
5/23: DOWNTOWN AREA
5/24: MOVIE THEATER
5/25: TRAIN STATION
5/26: AIRPORT
5/27: FERRY
5/28: BUS STATION
5/29: WATER SPORTS
5/2a: EDUCATION
5/2b: ENTERTAINMENT
5/2c: GOLFING
5/2d: BUSINESS
5/2e: MINI MOTORCYCLE DEALER/SERVICE
5/2f: BORDER CROSSING
5/30:
tbl = 6, ts = da4, te = 0
6/0: MINI CENTER
6/1: GAS STATIONS
6/2: CAR RENTAL
6/3: PARKING
6/4: PARKING + PUBLIC TRANSPORT
6/5: REST AREAS
6/6: AUTOMOBILE CLUBS
6/7: TOURIST ATTRACTIONS
6/8: HOTELS
6/9: RESTAURANTS
6/a: MONEY
6/b: COMMUNITY CENTER
6/c: LIBRARIES
6/d: LEGAL AUTHORITIES
6/e: FIRE STATIONS
6/f: MILITARY BASE
6/10: CONSULATES AND EMBASSIES
6/11: ATM
6/12: TOURIST INFORMATION
6/13: MUSEUMS AND ART GALLERIES
6/14: THEATERS
6/15: CIVIC CENTER
6/16: SPORTS COMPLEXES
6/17: CHURCH
6/18: HISTORICAL MONUMENTS
6/19: AMUSEMENT PARKS
6/1a: PARKS AND GARDENS
6/1b: CIVIC AND CONVENTION CENTERS
6/1c: MEDICAL ASSISTANCE
6/1d: POLICE
6/1e: CITY HALLS
6/1f: POST OFFICE
6/20: HOSPITAL
6/21: PHARMACY
6/22: SHOPPING CENTERS
6/23: DOWNTOWN AREA
6/24: MOVIE THEATERS
6/25: TRAIN STATION
6/26: AIRPORTS
6/27: FERRIES
6/28: BUS STATIONS
6/29: MARINAS
6/2a: COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES
6/2b: ENTERTAINMENT
6/2c: GOLF COURSES
6/2d: BUSINESS ADDRESSES
6/2e: MINI MOTORCYCLE CENTER / SERVICE
6/2f: BORDER CROSSINGS

when people say "ruined" do they mean that the people with ruined nav systems couldnt even downgrade back the old os?

press and hold the pairing or talking face button in a BMW with Bluetooth and say "Shut up!" Or is it "Instruction Off" I can not remember:rofl:

I am just giving a warning based on what poster Chaplin said in another thread. I do not know how to define ruined. I guess it is based on the extent of the issue

I must admit that I'd be far happier to exchange the 'Direction Of Travel' option for Perspective rather than 'Pointing North' as UCrewX5 sugested.

I used 'Pointing North' all the time before Perspective, and still would prefer to use it when in 2D mode.

A thought, is the TV blocking on the move also done via the Nav OS?

The release version of V26 is 2 months more current then the V26.09A beta. Hence, if they are able to activate the Perspective mode on the V26 release (and be able to create our own splash screen) then we should have the best of all worlds ;)

Totally agree with this, Perspective is in principle the same as direction of travel.

Nevertheless:

:):):)RESPECT FOR ALL THE EFFORTS MADE AND SHARED:):):)

Great forum with great ideas and of course: great users!

and at the end I can try to improve my English :)

Minister

Martin,

Do you know where Nomad is viewing the code for these modules? I'm looking for an option to enable 'Dynamic Routing' under ROUTE CRITERIA. It's available under the BMWC01S software tree, but is not enabled on older than late 2005 X5 MKIV NAV's. I think this is because of the extra processing req's to calculate all available routes including traffic incidents. Nevertheless a great feature in Europe with TMC, and like the perspective mode I think we the owners should be able to decide if the feature is too slow to be usable.

Any help would be much appreciated.

I just uploaded the navboot file disassembled to UCrewX5, in that file is the disassembler as well. He can post a link shortly. You should be able to edit that file and recompile with your changes using CRC24 for the error correction that was discussed in prior threads.

With all of the software talent on this board, I am sure this sharing will provide us with a fully hacked version with selections out the wazoo.

Martin
www.bimmernav.com

Hi eaglesrest,

Dynamic routing requires a new software in the BM54 radio unit, I just answered Mak7 regarding the possibility of showing MP3 tags in combination with the new disc changer:

Hi there,

Unfortunately I have no PDF or something like this. The only information I have is from the German forum where I am normaly getting my information...

The facts:

The BM54 has different software-versions:

V7.0 - can nothing
V8.6 - has AUX-in possibilities
V9.4 - Has the feature for dynamic routing (in combination with TMC)
The newest version (14.3) has then the possibility to show ID3 tags and can use folders (eith the new cd-changer)

So you need a Radio unit that is build later than week 35/05

Some pics from http://www.auto-treff.com/bmw/vb/sho...5&pagenumber=1

http://www.i-digit.biz/publish/navi.gif
http://www.die-walchs.de/6.jpg.
http://www.die-walchs.de/6.jpg.
http://www.die-walchs.de/7.jpg.
http://www.die-walchs.de/7.jpg.

Greetings from Switzerland

Minister

For what it's worth guys, I've just done a 450+ mile round trip using this v26.09 and 70 or so miles into the journey my SatNav screen just reebooted. Only did it the once however.

brain training for you guys:
turn
right
or turn right

Hi Martin,

Many thanks to Nomad and yourself for all of this!! Just question, how is Nomad re-enabling perspective in V26? Is he dissassembling the code, and then hacking a few bytes here and there, so that choosing the "Direction of Travel" option, sets the appropriate variable to the correct value for "Perspective View"....or is Nomad dissassembling the code, and actually recompiling it?

Also, how come Nomad isn't posting in these forums?

Thanks again!!

NavMan

There are 3 map modes:
1. 2D pointing north
2. 2D travel direction
3. 3D

System creates a menu then add clicable items in it:
CreateMenu(...);

AddMenuItem(0, "Pointing Norh", ...);
SetOnClickProc(0, point_north_click_proc, ...);

AddMenuItem(1, "Travel Direction", ...); SetOnClickProc(1, travel_dir_click_proc, ...);

AddMenuItem(2, "Perspective", ...);
SetOnClickProc(2, perspective_click_proc, ...);

ShowMenu(...);

When you select item, the apropiate clic procedure is called.
Click procedure for Point North looks like this:

turn_ON_point_north_mode(...);
turn_OFF_travel_dir_mode(...);
turn_OFF_perspective_mode(...);
RedrawMap(...);

Click procedure for 'Travel Direction' and 'Perspective' modes looks similar.

Each click procedure enable mode you selected, then disable two othre modes.
So 3D mode works in v26.09 and works after downgrade to v26. Unless you select 'Travel Direction' or 'Pointing North'.

Instead of adding another line of code we decided the easier solution was to just modify the two available options. adding a line of code can be risky, modifying a line was the easier path.

He had a post in one of the other threads.

Martin

Nice work guys. I'm wondering how difficult it would be to use the V26.09a binary code with the 3 different perspective options and port them into the final V26 version. (I have a background in programming and experience reverse engineering software, but unfortunately no free time to help :( ) I agree, it probably wouldn't be as easy as just replacing one of the views, but using the code from V26.09a would at least be a good framework.

I uploaded the Navboot file to UcrewX5 dissasembled. That would be were you would want to start. Take out the module required using Os9000 and drop it in.

With all of the coding talent here, I am sure someone can figure out how to turn all of the cool features on.

Martin

The files Martin uploaded can be accessed at http://www.xoutpost.com/members/ambishop/

As previously stated, keep in mind that these files are still in a testing phase, and should you choose to attempt to load them onto your nav drive then you do so at your own risk.

Enjoy!!

Did it work Jeff?

Thanks for posting these. Let me quickly define the files

navboot 21-Feb-2006 10:48 11.2M
Navboot file V26 -hacked to exchange Pointing North with Perspective

navboot-disassembled..> 21-Feb-2006 11:41 3.8M
Navboot broeken into OS9000 modules for anyone who wants to hack it some more

navboot.zip 21-Feb-2006 11:15 3.7M
Zipped version of first file


Alcohol 120% version of V26 -hacked. Same format as V26.09 file with ONLY the MKIV nav firmware on disk
v26_perspective.mdf 21-Feb-2006 11:14 67.4M
v26_perspective.mds

NOTE: I did not update the mds file. If it gives you an error that the image is larger than the mds file says
Check option 2, to use the file size of the image file! If you do not do this, you will find yourself with a CD coaster

Martin

It loaded just fine in a 2003 X5 and 2001 750iL

Martin

Loaded fine as well in a E39 M5, will have to do more testing tomorrow... Thanks!

Hi Amibishop (Martin),

Thanks for the navboot dissassembly...

Being a programmer myself, I'd like to understand a bit more so that I can try and help out, and mabye open up a few more hidden options..

I understand that you changed the existing options instead of adding new code, but "how did Nomand and yourself change the existing options"?

Did Nomand and yourself use the dissassemble navboot file, alter one of the modules, and then recompile the navboot code.. If so, what was altered and how? Did you load the navboot modules into an OS9000 development kit to alter them? If so, have you got a copy of the OS9000 development kit I could "borrow", as I'd really like to see what I can change...

Sorry for all the question, but I'm keen to help..

Many Thanks,

NavMan

I really appreciate all your efforts here guys, but is there any chance of an alternative version that replaces "Direction of Travel" rather than "Pointing North"?

Is there a technical reason why you replaced Pointing North rather than Direction of Travel (for example was it easier to replace the first option rather than the second) ?

I just thought about this: is the MK4 navi based on VDO Dayton MS5500 hardware? Does anyone have software upgrade disks for VDO systems? Maybe the modules are compatible and you could replace texts/languages from VDO files or even add features from the VDO system. Check out the VDO user manual: http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_an...id=510234.aspx
There is also MS5700 with 3D and 9 languages: http://www.vdodayton.com/default2_an...s_5700_sd.aspx

I don't mean to be picky here but correct would be:

Downgrade to v26.09a (which is a beta PRIOR to v26-Release) then upgrade back to v26 (which still contains the perspective code but has the selector disabled)

The v26.09a is a test-version between v25 and v26!

Regards,
7erAce

Guys, Fantastic work so far!

Any news on getting 'off road' guidance to work?

What would be really cool (seen it mentioned before) is a tool like the gif extractor that could allow the changing of options such as color schemes and voice files etc.

I for one would be willing to pay for this!

Then, if "we return" to the V.26 stays vision perspective? Thanks:rolleyes:

Yes, unless you change the viewing option (after which you can't go back because the menu item is gone/disabled in v26)...

Ok, then I will wait for a new V.26 made in X5 world. :)

Thanks

I though that with the hacked V26, that AmiBishop posted, that you might just be able to downgrade to V25, and then upgrade but to the "perspective modified" V26?

That's what I was going to try on my car tonight. I don't see why you need to use the V26 beta at all with Nomad / AmiBishops new "modified" V26..

NavMan

Which already is available however it has the "Face North" option exchanged with the perspective view. So no "Face North" option. :(

That's correct. Just keep in mind that you'll lose the "Face North"-option!

7erAce

I do not have any problem. I have never used "Face North". :tsk:

I usually do (it is my preferred setting together with split-screen so the right pane shows the detailed road layout concerning the next crossing)

Me too! I'll stick with V26.09A or go back to V26 rather than lose "Face North", it's more usefull to me than Perspective. But I rather have Perspective than "Direction of Travel"!

Maybe ambishop makes an alternative image with "Direction of Travel" replaced... :)

That option has been requested. I'm hoping that we may see this alternative available to us later today.

I second that. Before I had "Perspective" I've never switched to "Direction of Travel," simply because the map view was too jumpy on larger scales on my MK4. So, if one could make a V26 available with "Face North" and "Perspective" I'd be more than happy to go for that. By the way, I find it more adequate to replace "Direction of Travel" since the perspective view is just like that, only in 3D, isn't it?

As a side note to those having strange effects or even lockups: I've been using V26.09A for almost two weeks now without any problems in my E38-2001. Actually I'm not so sure if I'd go for the patched V26 right ahead, even if someone would change it to replace "Direction of Travel" instead of "Face North", but I'd certainly sleep better if I'd knew I could just the moment I'm running into problems with the current setup ;)

Last but not least I'd like to thank everybody here who contributed to this amazing work. I've no idea how helpful the Bimmer dealers and garages are in the States, but here in Germany it's real hard to find someone listening to your problems and/or wishes (not to speak of the ability to help with real technical problems) So, this board has been and still is way more helpful to me than everything else before. Thanks, guys!

Uwe
(Just my $0.02)

@the guys doing the reprogramming:
if the code looks just like the sample posted on the first page, I would dare to just add an extra item in the menu, and have 3 options. OK, it's a bigger risk than changing one of the available options, but it's just a minor difference in 'risk factor'. I'd be more than happy to try that in my own car, and post the results, if you need a risk-taker...
If that works out, who knows what other stuff can be made available in the menu...

Having done some of this sort of hacking before, there is often a HUGE difference between modifying an existing option and adding something new.

It is likely that you would not need to recompile the code to make the sorts of modfiicatiosn required to change one of the existing options to the Perspective option. However adding the Perspective option, even though it would involve very few new pieces of code, would require decompiling, modification and the recompiling or some pretty smart hex editing!

Maybe you just got it wrong but that's exactly what RichardP1 and I proposed: A version with "Face North" and "Perspective" (replacing the "Direction of travel") instead of the existing version replacing the "Face North"...

7erAce

Can someone confirm this for me:
I used ultraiso to open a v26 image, replaced the navboot file with Martins perspective view one & created a new iso, this file is now 251mb compared to the original 288mb mdf file.
Is this correct?
I also took the v26 navboot file, replaced the original logo with one posted, then created a new iso, this is also smaller than the original mdf file and exactly the same size as the previous iso i made?

I just looked at them in ultraiso and it shows them all as the same size but xp shows the mdf as 37mb larger than the iso's?

Any ideas

No, no, I got you both right! I only wanted to add another vote on that, but unfortunately finished my post before I saw the reply of UCrewX5 saying that this version is "in prduction" already.

Sorry for the noise...

Uwe

Actually if you use this version you will not loose perspective mode by chaning modes. That is why we did this version

A number of people have requested this and it is being looked into.

I thought the functionality of direction of travel with perspective would be best as you can change to direction of travel with a similar viewing point and get the street names, which are not displayed in Perspective mode. I will keep you posted.

I also like the idea of changing features. The code has a LOT of features that are not enabled in the released version.

Martin
www.bimmernav.com

I would also like to have the 3 options, if this would be possible, since I use both "Direction of travel" and "Face North" options.

ambishop, I know. But Agus was asking about upgrading to V26-standard after going for V26.09 first (see his post on page 4 of this thread)...

Seems that some people are getting confused, so I'll try to sum up the different versions around:

1. V26.09a: Beta version (between V25 and V26): contains perspective/birdview mode but has some ugly side-effects. You might not want to install this.
2. V26 standard (as delivered from BMW): No perspective mode but containing the code hence when loaded the V26.09a once and then again V26 standard perspective mode is there unless switched to another mode. After that the option is not available from the menu again (unless you install (1.) again)
3. V26 patched 1: like (2.) but with option "Face North" replaced by perspective mode
4. V26 patched 2 (not yet here but requested): like (2.) but with open "Direction of travel" replaced by perspective mode
5. Several versions of all of the above with patched navboot-file for different splash-screen logos

However please keep in mind that even if the patched V26 version contain later code than the V26.09a BMW might have had a reason NOT to enabe the perspective mode. (The perspective mode code might still be at some ugly-beta-state e.g.).

So just do not believe it's stable or officially released code even in the V26 patched (3. and 4.) versions and please use it at your own risk!

7erAce

I'm also had this problem. Dont worry, burn this 37mb smaller image and place the disk in your navi. All will be ok.

quick question guys - when u replace the "face north" option,
is the wording changed also? will the user now see "perspective?"

Yes.

schweet! now i just need to find a working
version of v25.

:tsk:

I just did 400 miles today in my Rover 75 and perspective view was completely trouble free.

only thing I noticed was the while line was still in place where I had been!

if i want to downgrade to v25 or v24 and
then upgrade back to v26, but w/ a
personalized splash screen, are there any
issues w/ that; similar to the issues if i were
to upgrade to the beta then downgrade to v26?:dunno:

No, don't worry. As long as you don't install the beta none of your settings get changed or lost. You'll just end up with a personal splash screen and a normal (stable) V.26 :)

7erAce

excellent. i couldn't find a working v25;
so, i downloaded v24. off to play.
thanks again everyone!

One thing to think about though (at least if your MK4 is still covered by any warranty): A new logo makes it easy to prove that you messed around with the device and in case it breaks for any reason at any later time you might not be able to claim your warranty...

7erAce

That sounds tempting Martin. Do you have any examples of what kind of features/menu options are disabled/hidden?

you can download previos versions from my page http://gren.hotbox.ru/navi%20OS%20software.html

there are references to Off Road Guidence all over the place within the code. Here are pictures of an MKIII with Off road Guidence.

http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/139364/

There is a Taxi mode, which puts you in a predefined route or something. There is updating of the clock with GPS time. Something about guidence on small roads (tyre's post), ect.

Martin

I tried to give this mod software a shot but I cannot see the Perspective as an option using this modified navboot file, and going from V26 to V23 and then to hybrid V26... :confused:

Try going to v26.09 first and then upgrade to v26.00 - Perspective.

There is something we are missing turns the perspecitve feature on initially when upgrading to v26.09. Then once on the v26 - perspective mode software leaves it on.

Martin
www.bimmernav.com

Here you go. Pointing North version with the ability to toggle the optons

http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...ing-north.html

Martin

I was tempted to download this file, but I'm so sure that by the time I wake up tomorrow (it's bedtime over here...), there'll be a file with even better options available.

Thanks guys for the nice work!!!

So the 3D enabled V26 only works after V26.09? Are you sure that the "thing" you are missing is not some part of the (beta) software that still remains in navi's flash and not just a nvram setting? Navboot file size is bigger in 26.09, what extra module does it have?

Btw. I'm sure you already know this, but just in case someone else has not noticed: the disassembled navboot contains two tools "color_tool" and "config_tool", looks like someone just needs to find a way to run those and we can make config changes. And there sure are lots of config options inside those files...

I did the v26->v26.09->v26-P and there is no Perspective. The new navboot file was processed as stated: GIF[new welcome screen]->ISO[add new navboot to v26]->Alcohol[burn CD]. It loads into the computer but the Perspective is lost once deselected.

I guess that this "upgrade" is trying to tell me something... :tsk:

not sure if you put it in the correct spot. Try the new navboot file in the other thread. and make sure and put it in the correct folder \V_2\RR\0101\BMWC01S

Yes... \V_2\RR\0101\BMWC01S\app_sw\navboot

I tried the complete v26_perspective.mdf file as described my Martin:

Alcohol 120% version of V26 -hacked. Same format as V26.09 file with ONLY the MKIV nav firmware on disk
v26_perspective.mdf 21-Feb-2006 11:14 67.4M
v26_perspective.mds

I went from BMW released v26 down to v25
Then installed v26.09a beta
Then installed the new v26_perspective (patched 1)

Sure enough I see two options for the Map in ** split screen mode **: Perspective and Direction of Travel

However, if I have the map in Full screen mode, the two options for the map are: Face North and Direction of Travel

Does that sound correct? Meaning I have access to all the different map modes, however does require switching from split to full screen .... ?

Then a funny thing happened. My battery died ... and I had to call AAA out ... now I am up and running again :-)

He, he... that's it. The mod's only for split screen. :D

It actually works in both modes, although adjustable in just split screen

Martin

Right for fun of it, I tried one more experiment with the new v26_perspective image.

I installed the standard BMW release v26 by going back to v25 and then loading standard v26. By doing this I assumed all perspective features were removed.

I then went back (again) to v25 ....

Then I just loaded v26_perspective ... meaning no beta was loaded in the upgrade process. Sure enough, perspective view was selectable in split screen map view ....

So what did I learn by doing this ... well ... it appeared at least (in my case) that the v26.09a beta release is not required to enable perspective view using the V26_perspective image from Martin.

Hopefully you guys followed me :-)

Does this mean Technic you're back in Euro mode again ....after you just got your car coded to USA ? :)

That's what I thought, but then again I never use split screen so I never saw it... :tsk:

I know people that know people in the dealer, if you know what I mean... :cool:

... so then this extra effort: http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...ing-north.html is redundant, because all three modes of map orientation are available in both split and full screen with this mod. No mode is eliminated...

Pointing North is available in Full Screen for selection and then it shows too in split screen if it was already selected. Perspective works the same but in reverse... selectable in split screen and present in full screen if already selected. :)

Question
 

... yes sir.

"Important: You can not simply do this procedure with the same version of the SW that's already on the NAV unit. If your NAV unit has V26 installed already and you create a new CD with V26 then it will not update the splash. You need to either upgrade or downgrade to a new or old unmodified version. Then re-install the newly modifed splash version of the SW. This is so the NAV unit thinks that there is a new update."

Does anyone have v25 for Alochol so I can downgrade before I upgrade?

@icemanjs4: There are several links to the V26.09A version to download. This file is smaller than a complete version, so easier to download. I use this version as a temporary version to do my updates.

I was a little hesitant to use that version since the results have been unpredictable. I ended up downloading V24 for Nero, and that worked just as well for me. I have to say the upgrade to V26 with perspective (and the modded BMW splash screen with the Roundel) was simple and smooth.

Thank you guys SOOO MUCH! You all rock! My Nav system is so much better now than when I bought it.

It's too bad it doesn't show street names though in the perspective mode. If anyone can figure out how to get that working - I'd be more than grateful.

Any news guys on trying to hack the offroad function or any other features?

@ programmers:
Is it possible to add "Perspective" mode in the menu to have all three options at once ("Direction of travel", "Face North" and "Perpective") without toggle between split screen and full screen? Or is it a thing that I would never have again, like in version V26.09A?
It would be more simple to choose any of these modes without the toggle trick.
Thanks a lot to all who works on this project to make it possible!

Just to be clear about the mods in the existing program... Are you guys actually recompiling code, or just hacking some bytes to make real basic changes?

no doubt. i definitely like the look,
but i miss the street names. i know
i could use split screen, but it's just
not the same. again though, thanks
a million for this "mod.":2thumbs:

Hi,

thanks a lot for showing us the "light". Due to language problems it´s hard for me to post here (I am power poster on the spanish board).

Also I am an absolute greenhorn on this topics, so pls understand my stupid thought. After reading all it is still not clear to me what is the difference between the 26.09a zip and the v26.09- bird perspective.mdf linked on post 28 of this thread?

Which shall I burn to the CD in the case I am willing to risk this?

Best regards from snowy north-madrid.
Alex

i thought the general consensus was to stay away from
v26.09A:dunno: i, myself, used the file that are mentioned
in this thread. i think the difference might be stability w/
the software. i'm pretty sure others have said that
v26.09A is unstable. i think it was also mentioned that
by using the file that i mentioned, users are getting the
stability of v26, but w/ the added perspective view. i
hope this helps somewhat.

I've just burn to a cd the link uxcrew posted on this thread came out at 58.7mb does that sound about right.

So should I just load this on top of my v26 -09a ????

Really appreciate your help guys.

Fiona.

At least you are brave! :) However I'd go for a full V26 with customized logo if that's all what you want so you don't have to worry about things the 26.09a breaks or might break.

7erAce

Languages ...
 

Hi everybody,

has anyone played around with the languages? I mean, over here in Germany you only get German, English (GB) and French to choose from - all with a female voice.

I don't speak French and the British English, well, let me put it this way: just doesn't sound right for an American ear ;)

So, what I did:
I replaced the GB_F file with USA_F (which was a major improvement :)) and just for fun, I replaced the F_F file with USA_M. Now I'm able to listen to the female US voice when switching the language to GB, and to the male US voice when choosing French (although I cannot understand much of the menu text labes, then)

There I recognized that the male voice doesn't talk that much (like in real world - hehehehe - no offense!) So I came up with the idea to replace the German female voice by the male one, too. Actually that's my setup now: GER_M (instead of GER_F), USA_F (instead of GB_F) and USA_M (instead of F_F)

Now, here's my question:
Could those having changed the code for the perspective view think of a way to implement some kind of language selection for more than three choices, or some kind of a female/male toggle for the languages available?

TIA

I don't have the street names in split-screen mode either. Do you???

I think the poster may have meant that you can see the 'current' street name listed in split-screen mode if you look at the right hand side of the screen - not street names on the map though...

Paul Martin
Australia

what this guy said. on the map side, i see major highway numbers,
but no street names. the current street that i am on appears to the
right of the map display. sorry for the confusion.

Okay, then, same thing here.
I really miss the street names though. It would be a nice hack, wouldn't it?? :-)
Anybody up for the challenge? :-))

I thought everyone who preferred the pointing North option would appreciate this one

http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/165239

Martin

Hi Martin,

sorry to bother you, I would like to test what you suggest, but pls clarify me following:(I ahve now insatlled since yesterday V26.09 working Ok for the moment (where´s the prayer smilie :) ?)

On yr directory there are two V26 modified versions:
- V26 perspective mode updated Feb 21
- V26 toggle Feb 23.

I understand I shall download the toggle one, 60 something Mb, no zip, and burn with alcolhol slowest way. And then insert the CD directly on top of the V26.09, no downgrade to V25 or similar. Is that OK? If yes, I will proceed on monday after return to work and post the "experience".

edit: I have just realised there is a second version V26 3D toggle. WHich one shall I use?

Another question, meanwhile I have donwloaded the 2006-1 roadmap (Europe). Unzipped with winzip and burnt with Nero, is that OK?

Best regards
Alex

yea I do not know about doing anything that would not be Kosher, but the choice is yours on the files to install.

Toggle has one perspective mode Direction of travel
Toggle 3D has TWO perspective modes, Direction of travel and pointing north
Perspective has ONE perspective mode and NO toggle to choose pointing north except when you switch to full screen mode you can choose pointing north

Since you are at v26.09 you can just install any of those choices you want

Martin

Martin,

Which version would you REVERT the Mk4 back to before loading your hacked versions?

I am reverting back to v26.09 each time (and each time it goes into German Language mode!) but is it better to go back to V25?

Is there any way that the new releases can have the version number updated so we can revert back to a clean V26 each time or is it still not known yet where the version number is?

I am just off to put on the 3d toggle version (with modded splash screen logo).

Thanks for the excellent work - and is there any truth in the rumour about this V28 with 3 options enabled?

Mark.

Why should there be a v28 with not even a v27 available? I'm quite sure it will be another version of the 26.09a with altered version strings...

7erAce

There was a comment in another thread (can't locate it at the moment) relating to a supposed V28 with the same functionality of menu items (the 3 visible items) as V26.09A but with the later OE V26 codebase - it wasn't suggested that it was an 'official' release, more of a 'next release above the one Martin has provided us'.

It doesn't help when those releasing the software patches can't change the version number - I have about 5 CD's cut with various versions.

I'm not the programmer those here are- can someone post a link or directions on how to recompile the disassembled navboot file posted by Martin.

I have an idea...

A previous poster (Lebowski, post #100) mentioned that language files can be swapped around with relative ease, so making selecting German actually speak British English is a matter of renaming files to "fool" the s/w. However, the menu text screens are still in the original language (German in this example). In the navboot file Martin disassembled, the hex language files seem to contain the relevant text. So my theory is that renaming them, and/or repositioning(?) them within the navboot file would allow the text items in the menus to be reconfigured in the relavent language. In this example, copying the British English file and /or renaming/repositioning(?) it to the German file name/location would retain English text...

Any thoughts?

Editing navboot code
 

I wanted to ask a similar question to my above post, but coming at it a different way-

I've opened up the navboot file in a hex editor and can locate the text strings which are obviously the various menu items in the different languages. If I simply edit those strings to the desired text and save the modified navboot file, am I good to go? Or am I missing something that will totally screw me up?

Any help/comments etc much appreciated!

I think you will need to fix the CRC of the modified navboot file. There is more information on this in the splash logo thread.

That's one of the things I'm not sure about. I have the following values for the toggle 3d navboot file:
size: (11796040 Bytes)
CRC32 (PKZIP) of file: 1F9B701C
CRC16 (Standard) of file: E92F

After I modify the file, how does one adjust these CRC values?

It's CRC24. Look at the HackTheIbus file section. You get a delphi program there.
The crc isn't for the entire file. It's just for the modules the file consists of.
Read here and you will find out all you need:
http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...-09a-beta.html

Closing this thread - see http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...ing-logos.html
for any additional info on this topic.

Thanks to all that contributed to this!! Outstanding collaborative effort!!