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maszika 05-26-2006 05:50 PM

Nav OS V27.1 has been released
 
Hi,

Nav OS V27.1 has been released in Germany. I have been updated my car.
No new features. Versionnummer: 4-1/71

http://www.xoutpost.com/pdf/v27.1.pdf

Janos from Hungary

X5 Sport 05-26-2006 06:47 PM

What changes are there ?

mdsbrain 05-26-2006 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Sport
What changes are there ?

+1

Brian-bmw 05-26-2006 09:41 PM

Very good. I can not wait to see it posted for our consumption. It does not totally surprise me, because I have seen some symptoms like slow booting occasionally, hanging with the "please wait...," and trouble picking up satellites. I still like V27, but I'll bet that 27.1 smoothes things out just a bit.

trapdoor 05-27-2006 05:59 AM

Hope they will have fixed the 'suburbs' and villages not being displayed in the RH pane of the split screen. The main reason I am still running V26 (3D hacked) and not V27

radioamat2002 06-04-2006 07:07 AM

Hi
where it is possible to download it ?
thank you

timiboy 06-05-2006 03:54 AM

V27.1
 
AFAIK there are no substantial changes in that revision. The only thing I have heard of is that BMW has changed something in the update procedure to avoid problems on some systems updated specifically with enabled BMW ASSIST. More changes to be made are awaited in V28 which is due to come out in late summer!

Timiboy

ekonet 06-05-2006 04:33 AM

if anyone need it: http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=9X481J1K

Regards.

radioamat2002 06-05-2006 05:04 AM

Thanks but that doesn t work for the download
:confused:
OK IT S GOOD
THANKS

ekonet 06-05-2006 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radioamat2002
Thanks but that doesn t work for the download
:confused:


Work PERFECT!! close popup and try to click in download.
Regards.

radioamat2002 06-05-2006 05:30 AM

Hi
ok that work perfect with my pc portable

thank you
best regards

kym 06-06-2006 05:30 AM

Hi,

I have a problem with my HS MK4 with firmware v27.0 and europe map (navtech).

If search any information (falkguide) of Nice France, the mk4 don't make correct guide.

This is a bug? this problem is only for Nice, another city working.

This update v27.1 is already tested with HS MK4 (product 2005) ?

Bye.

sleuth255 06-06-2006 11:39 AM

If this fixes the V27 satellite acquisition problem then I'll be happy. I'm downloading now then will upgrade and report back since I pretty much know how to reproduce the problem. It's an issue with short-term acquisition where almanac data is almost perfectly accurate and is most likely to occur if you leave your car for a short while then return.

stevep 06-06-2006 04:12 PM

Does anybody have the list of changes / fixes between V27 and V27.1?

k690bpp 06-07-2006 03:47 AM

download works fine...thanks.

but what do you do with the files once you have them???

thanks.

sleuth255 06-07-2006 09:01 AM

@k690bpp: Go to the V27 sticky thread at the top of this forum for instructions.

I have completed the v27.1 upgrade successfully. In a couple of days I'll know if this corrects the satellite acquisition issue and will report back.

k690bpp 06-07-2006 11:01 AM

got it thanks.

timiboy 06-07-2006 11:21 AM

Finaly I managed to download the file. Strangely enough it worked only on my notebook :|I will make the CD now and do some testing:)

Timiboy

PeterNYC 06-08-2006 01:56 PM

does anybody know what the most recent US version is?
I am taking delivery next week of an x3 with NAV and would like the dealer to install or make sure that it has the very latest version

Thanks

sleuth255 06-08-2006 05:43 PM

Verified: this update fixes the satellite acquisition bug!. Acquisition is a whole different animal now. I'm noticing that almanac data is correctly being used for fast acquisition and I've been through 3 instances where v27 would've lost GPS lock with zero issues.

PeterNYC 06-08-2006 05:50 PM

thanks Sleuth....So v 27.1 is availble now for US models?
I need to verify with my dealer what version they have...the dealer should have the latest, and be able to upload it on site, i'd think....before delivery, along with their other prep

sleuth255 06-08-2006 08:55 PM

Mine's a US 530I so the update works fine for these models. I can't say if US dealers would have this yet though since I downloaded it from the link posted earlier in this thread and performed the upgrade myself

timiboy 06-09-2006 01:59 AM

Most European dealers have the 27.1 allready. They received it latest this week. I guess the US dealers should have gotten it also. BUt even If U get a V27 on Your new car it would be absolutely fine! I have installed V27.1 on my X3 and I got it installed in my friends X5 yesterday from the dealer. Can not see any difference until now;)

Timiboy

brettcp 06-09-2006 04:25 PM

i'm currently running v27.. if i upgrade to v27.1, will i lose my custom startup image and will it put the "Accept" key back when the nav starts?

-Brett

Brian-bmw 06-09-2006 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettcp
i'm currently running v27.. if i upgrade to v27.1, will i lose my custom startup image and will it put the "Accept" key back when the nav starts?-Brett

You probably will lose the custom startup image, but you probably will not get Accept back. The only way to get the Accept back is to have a dealer re-code the nav computer.

brettcp 06-09-2006 05:01 PM

would i have to upgrade to 27.1, downgrade to 26 then re-uprgade to 27.1 (re-compiled with my own startup image) ?

or could i just modify the 27.1 with my startup image and upgrade to not lose it?

-Brett

blondboinsd 06-09-2006 05:18 PM

how did you guys get perspective?

RichardP1 06-09-2006 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettcp
could i just modify the 27.1 with my startup image and upgrade to not lose it?

So long as you are changing the OS version the image will be updated too, so going from 27 -> 27.1 will load the image from the disk. This would be the recomended path as loading an older version and then a newer one again can cause undesirable side effects, better to just keep going up.

brettcp 06-09-2006 05:52 PM

I modified 27.1 with my own image, then upgraded my 27 to 27.1.. The custom image is still there, and the Accept screen is still gone =) Worked like a charm..

the only thing I do notice is that there is no longer a version number displayed at the top right of the settings page.. when i loaded 27.1, it said "Application Version 7.10".. but i no longer get a version number in the settings area.. oh well.

-Brett

LeMansX5 06-09-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blondboinsd
how did you guys get perspective?

1. Push the "MENU" button to get to the the main menu.
2. Scroll to the "SETTINGS" menu selection and click the knob to select it.
3. Push and hold the "MENU" button for about 8 seconds to enter the GPS Service Menu.
4. Scroll beyond the bottom to a 2nd page, where you will get the Perspective option.

license3000 06-11-2006 07:16 AM

donde puedo descargarlo saludos
 
donde puedo descargarlo saludos

Ian Miller 06-12-2006 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radioamat2002
Thanks but that doesn t work for the download
:confused:
OK IT S GOOD
THANKS

Same here until I disabled pop-ups for the site.

license3000 06-12-2006 02:41 AM

tengo problema
 
me puede alguien ayudar con la version 27.1 no me funciona no lee cd, gracias , saludos

Roland Man 06-12-2006 05:12 AM

Nav OS V27.1
 
After updating to version 27.1, I can't chose anymore the display of the outside temperature, this option seems disabled and it appears now in grey in the settings.

Roland

Mr. Bmw 06-12-2006 01:31 PM

Hi everyone,

I would like to update my v27 to v27.1 but i'd like to put my custom image too.

can someone link me to a guide to do it?

Thanks

Agus 06-13-2006 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by license3000
me puede alguien ayudar con la version 27.1 no me funciona no lee cd, gracias , saludos


En principio si la has descargado de la página que ha puesto Ekonet, y lo grabas con el programa adecuado no deberias tener problema. No te puedo ayudar mas poirque aun no me la he descargado ni se que programa se usa, si nero o Alcohol para grabarlo.
Saludos

Cap_Nemo 06-13-2006 09:20 AM

Lay out who be even an image of this disk. And that for my country all slots for gallop are used. I cannot take away it. Please!!!

rimibar 06-19-2006 05:30 AM

Hi Everyone,

My first post and foray into X5World - hello!

I am really keen to upgrade the op system and maps on my car, bit have a few questions before I do:
  1. Can I keep my English Lady voice? We've become close!
  2. Is Postcode (UK) based navigation available?
Thanks!

Richard

timiboy 06-19-2006 06:44 AM

1. You always keep Your voice with the upgrade. Only if You recode Your car or manipulate the software you can change the voice
2. Zip code navigation is possible starting with map DVD 2006-01

Timiboy

Technic 06-19-2006 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Bmw
Hi everyone,

I would like to update my v27 to v27.1 but i'd like to put my custom image too.

can someone link me to a guide to do it?

Thanks

http://www.xoutpost.com/102790-post161.html

brif 06-19-2006 02:38 PM

thanks works a treat

Gazza 06-19-2006 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timiboy
1. You always keep Your voice with the upgrade. Only if You recode Your car or manipulate the software you can change the voice
2. Zip code navigation is possible starting with map DVD 2006-01

Timiboy

I heard this rumour about postcode (zip) search being available but surely this would need both the postcode info on the map disk and a software change to give the option to input a postcode in the destination input?

Any ideas?

X5 Sport 06-19-2006 05:20 PM

yes that come on 2005.2 map disc from memory

RastaGurl 06-19-2006 09:58 PM

X5/X3 World ROCKS!!! Just updated my Nav with V27.1 and a new splash screen, and it works like a charm...thus far! :thumbup:

rimibar 06-20-2006 04:29 AM

Thanks timiboy

kym 06-20-2006 05:55 AM

BUG MK4 in NICE (france)
 
Hi,

I have a problem with my HS MK4 with firmware v27.1 and europe map 2006-2 (navtech).

If search any information (es. bmw service or restaurant) of Nice France, the mk4 don't make correct guide.

If i put the turistic information required (es. bmw service in nice) as a destination the navigation system is not able to calculate the route, i can only see the old route.

This problem is only for Nice, other city working well.
I tested many maps, 2006-1 / 2005-2 / 2005-1

Please help.

rimibar 06-22-2006 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazza
I heard this rumour about postcode (zip) search being available but surely this would need both the postcode info on the map disk and a software change to give the option to input a postcode in the destination input?

Any ideas?

Hi Gazza,

I am somewhat the wiser now! I have installed v27 software now which works well - they have improved the graphics of the maps, enabled postcode (with compatible DVDs) , and of course enabled the perspective view - which is great.

I received a map disk as well which, despite allowing postcode searches, actually contains older map data than I had previously (2005.2 I think). The new one doesn't even show my road which has been there for more than 3 years!!!

Am trying to work out which map disk I need to get postcode and up to date maps. Will keep you posted!

bluelagoon 06-22-2006 09:40 AM

Does this fix the bug from V27 where only the closest large town is displayed in the right pane as noted in the below thread?

http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...ghlight=london

x5GuyInLA 06-23-2006 12:11 AM

Hi everyone,

Just burned the cd for the 27.1 os and I just want to make sure that it's only one file that I need to burn. In the folder, it shows 2 files, one .mdf which is 288mb and the other is .mds and is 1kb. I only burned the 288mb .mdf one and not the .mds one because the .mds file didn't show up initially until I selected all files, and alcohol 120% only let me open one file. Thanks.

EDIT: Just installed the 27.1 OS and it works beautifully! the satellite acquisition is amazingly accurate! The map turns almost instantaniously when I turn, unlike the previous OS I had (which ever one that came with the 2005s). Thanks. :thumbup:

darrenw 06-23-2006 03:41 PM

I installed version 27.1 last night and used it a lot today.... It replaced a very early version of the software - it was last updated in 2003!

Everything is much better looking, but I can't work out how to put it into "map mode", without it giving me directions to somewhere. In the previous version, I could select "end destination" (or whatever the option is) and then select "maps".

However, in version 27.1, "end destination" works fine, and takes you to the address input screen - and it seems to stay there - not very nice to look at. If I select "maps" mode, it starts to give me directions to the last destination input, which is not what I want it to do.

Has anyone worked out how to show the map on the screen, but without it trying to give directions to anywhere?

Many thanks,
DarrenW.

x5GuyInLA 06-23-2006 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrenw
I installed version 27.1 last night and used it a lot today.... It replaced a very early version of the software - it was last updated in 2003!

Everything is much better looking, but I can't work out how to put it into "map mode", without it giving me directions to somewhere. In the previous version, I could select "end destination" (or whatever the option is) and then select "maps".

However, in version 27.1, "end destination" works fine, and takes you to the address input screen - and it seems to stay there - not very nice to look at. If I select "maps" mode, it starts to give me directions to the last destination input, which is not what I want it to do.

Has anyone worked out how to show the map on the screen, but without it trying to give directions to anywhere?

Many thanks,
DarrenW.

does it give audio directions, or just show on the map? my old nav OS did that as well...after i hit "terminate guidance", the map would still show the route to the last destination unless i put in another destination or turned the car off and exited. i think it's just part of the software :dunno:

bluelagoon 06-23-2006 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrenw

Has anyone worked out how to show the map on the screen, but without it trying to give directions to anywhere?

Many thanks,
DarrenW.

Scroll down on the destination input screen the Map.

Acezoned 06-24-2006 02:55 AM

i wanted to add my own image but loaded 27. I didn't want to risk being set back to dealer default or euro so I figured I'd wait for next version to add image. The question is can I do that now with 27.1 in regard to adding custom image?

darrenw 06-24-2006 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluelagoon
Scroll down on the destination input screen the Map.

When I do this (i.e. switch back to the map), the sat nav then tries to direct me to the last destination that I input (which could have been days ago!). In the previous version of the software, you could cancel the destination and it would shut up.

I can't currently find a way of telling the sat nav software that I don't want to go anywhere!

Thanks,
Darren.

elnero 07-02-2006 01:51 PM

Not only bought myself a great car, but also come across an even greater forum about it.

Upgraded my software from V24 to V27.1 . Works fine but ... have lost the "code" possiblity. Not very imprtatant, just good to know.

But becoming interested in it: should it be possible to patch with the 26.beta and getting the Perspective view on the 27.1 ???

Thanks in advance BIG brother ...
El

RichardP1 07-03-2006 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elnero
But becoming interested in it: should it be possible to patch with the 26.beta and getting the Perspective view on the 27.1 ???

Perspective works in V27.1 without any patching, but it is disabled by default.

Go to the Setting menu, then press and hold the menu button. After about 10 seconds you should get to the Nav configuration menu. Scroll down to the bottom, the Perspective option is just off the bottom of the screen, and change it from No to Yes. Press menu again to get back to the normal operating mode. Now you should have a third option when you select the map direction.

mdsbrain 07-03-2006 12:18 PM

Does everyone think its safe to upgrade directly to 27.1? Or must you do 27 first? Or is 27.1 really a small correction which could of been called v28.

I'm trying to describe it to others and help them upgrade without panic due to the .1 in the version number.

RichardP1 07-03-2006 12:25 PM

You can go directly to V27.1 from any older version. All of the software update disks contain a full coppies of all the software for each type of nav computer, even if there have been no changes for some types.

mdsbrain 07-03-2006 12:33 PM

thanks

elnero 07-03-2006 04:10 PM

Thanks King RichardP1 ... But doesn't seems to work. Pushed about 30' sec. without result. Anything to do with the 24 - 27.1 upgrade passing the 26? And do you have any idea where the code is gone ??? ;-))

El Lancelot

RichardP1 07-04-2006 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elnero
Thanks King RichardP1 ... But doesn't seems to work. Pushed about 30' sec. without result. Anything to do with the 24 - 27.1 upgrade passing the 26? And do you have any idea where the code is gone ??? ;-))

El Lancelot

Hmm, pressing the Menu button while in the settings menu is the most common way to get to the hidden menu. There are some other methods for different (older) systems but I'm surprised the menu button does not work, you were in the settings menu I assume (the one with 4-1/71 in the top right corner)?

You could try pressing and holding the "Sel" button, or the Nav command knob instead of the Menu button.

elnero 07-05-2006 01:47 PM

Installed clean software V27 again. Got with the 10sec-menu-hit in the hidden files. Works perfectly now. Everything OK.
Sorry bothering you so much Richard. Thanks a lot.


But ... Last question .... if I may ;-)).

My Navigation language = Dutch.
The Dashboard language= German ...

Would like a dutch dash, but don't know how ... Any idea ?

El

RichardP1 07-05-2006 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elnero
Sorry bothering you again Richard. But I resume:

- press the menu buttom and opening the nemu
- choose settings
- press the navbutton
- opening settings 4-1/71
- press menu button for 10 sec.
OK?
But does'nt work
Nevertheless thanks again.

El

Yes, that should work. Make sure that the key is in the 'accessory' position (not in the position where the engine is running).

elnero 07-05-2006 02:33 PM

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: X5world
Posts: 3

Installed clean software V27 again. Got with the 10sec-menu-hit in the hidden files. Works perfectly now. Everything OK.
Sorry bothering you so much Richard. Thanks a lot.


But ... Last question .... if I may ;-)).

My Navigation language = Dutch.
The Dashboard language= German ...

Would like a dutch dash, but don't know how ... Any idea ?

El

RichardP1 07-05-2006 02:45 PM

Not sure about that, you may have to have the car recoded by your dealer. Glad you have perspective working anyway!

BabyMakingWeather 07-06-2006 06:37 PM

The v27.1 CD can be found in ISO format here
(NB: The link has been updated as the previous image was corrupt)

LOBI_M5 07-08-2006 09:32 AM

MKIV doesn't load the OS CD
 
Ok, I desperately need help :mad:.

I downloaded the 27.1 version, burned TDK, Verbatims and what not.. at 1x, 4x, 20x... the result is the same. My MKIV dvd unit will doesn't do anything.

I pop the CD in and I watch the unit, I hear spinning it then quiet. The screen doesn't do anything, still says to insert a CD/DVD.

Any ideas? Am I doing anything wrong?

Thanks!

RichardP1 07-08-2006 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOBI_M5
Ok, I desperately need help :mad:.

I downloaded the 27.1 version, burned TDK, Verbatims and what not.. at 1x, 4x, 20x... the result is the same. My MKIV dvd unit will doesn't do anything.

I pop the CD in and I watch the unit, I hear spinning it then quiet. The screen doesn't do anything, still says to insert a CD/DVD.

Any ideas? Am I doing anything wrong?

Thanks!

What software are you using, I had a problem with Alchohol 120% with some CD drives, it burnt the data but then failed to finish off the disk correctly so it looked blank.

Check to see whats on the disk when you put in in your PC.

I now use UltraISO and have had no such problems.

LOBI_M5 07-08-2006 11:28 AM

Upgrade sequence not starting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardP1
What software are you using, I had a problem with Alchohol 120% with some CD drives, it burnt the data but then failed to finish off the disk correctly so it looked blank.

Check to see whats on the disk when you put in in your PC.

I now use UltraISO and have had no such problems.

I used Nero, Alcohol, CloneCD... I can perfectly read the CD after it's burned on 3 different computers. It's just the MKIV doesn't seem to do anything.

Am I doing something wrong? Maybe the upgrade sequence I'm doing is wrong. Here it is:

- unlock the car :)
- put the key in position I (display reads Key in Ignition lock)
- I wait for NAV to load, I press Accept
- I go to the trunk, pop the DVD out and put the CD in
- in few secs I hear the DVD unit spinning then silence
- My Display still says "insert CD/DVD... etc"

:mad:

UCrewX5 07-08-2006 12:35 PM

How are you making the OS CD? You don't just copy the files to the CD, you have to use the image to "create" an exact duplicate of the original.

BabyMakingWeather 07-08-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOBI_M5
I used Nero, Alcohol, CloneCD... I can perfectly read the CD after it's burned on 3 different computers. It's just the MKIV doesn't seem to do anything.

I had the same problem - turns out the CD image I used was corrupt. Suggest you grab a fresh one (the download link above has been updated)

superjohn 07-15-2006 12:00 PM

I have still the problem that i can't get the "birdview" what can I do wrong?????

John.

superjohn 07-15-2006 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superjohn
I have still the problem that i can't get the "birdview" what can I do wrong?????

John.

wrong button :rolleyes: now it works :)


What is the best way to burn the nav DVD do you need a special type DVD i'm burning whit alcohol 120% and Sony dvd+r but got a lot of problems often the system does not "see" the DVD???????????????????????

Henning 07-17-2006 05:28 PM

Burning problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ekonet
if anyone need it: http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=9X481J1K

Regards.

I have tried to burn this file, but the CD pleyer will not accept it. What am i doing wrong?
Do I have to use a particular program/speed etc...?
I have an MK2 nav. Version 2-1/26.
Please help me!!!

LOBI_M5 07-18-2006 02:41 PM

I burned 10 CDs, the MKIV unit will not load ANY
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyMakingWeather
I had the same problem - turns out the CD image I used was corrupt. Suggest you grab a fresh one (the download link above has been updated)

I'm close to reaching insanity... I redownloaded the v27.1 version and purchased 3 different CDR packs (Verbatim, TDK, Sony).. I burned 10 CDs at 1x and 24x speeds... when I inster them into the DVD unit in the trunk same thing happens.. I mean nothing... the display still says Please insert a navigation CD/DVD.

I also copied my Dvd Nav on a DVD+R... the unit will NOT use it if I insert it in. It's like the MKIV I have will not read ANY burned CDs/DVDs... please help.. it seems I'm the only unlucky guy :(

Thanks a lot!

PeteM 07-18-2006 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOBI_M5
I'm close to reaching insanity... I redownloaded the v27.1 version and purchased 3 different CDR packs (Verbatim, TDK, Sony).. I burned 10 CDs at 1x and 24x speeds... when I inster them into the DVD unit in the trunk same thing happens.. I mean nothing... the display still says Please insert a navigation CD/DVD.

I also copied my Dvd Nav on a DVD+R... the unit will NOT use it if I insert it in. It's like the MKIV I have will not read ANY burned CDs/DVDs... please help.. it seems I'm the only unlucky guy :(

Thanks a lot!


No mate I have the same problem, Downloaded from the links both 27 and 27.1 use 120% alcohol, used alsorts of CD's always slowest burn speed. Every thing seems OK put it in the player it says or does nothing!! Its fkucing annoying I am not a computer tech but I do what everyone says and yet get nothing. The only thing is when you do the image burn wizard on alcohol when you insert the file and hit next I go to a page asking choice of modes etc as noone has mentioned this I assume I leave it as the questions mean nothing to me I hit next and then chose lowest speed option and then press start. I just dont know what i am doing wrong and there was me hoping to get a decent start screen and speed camera poi's installed yet i cant even do whats suppose to be basic I am gutted. I am gonna have to buy it!!

LOBI_M5 07-18-2006 02:54 PM

I will try one more, maybe the OS version I have (haven't checked yet) is TOO old... so I may have to do an intermediary OS upgrade to be able to read the latest damn thing :). My M5 is a 2003 E39 model. Shouldn't be an issue. Worst comes to worst Ima sell it on ebay and get another MKIV from ebay what can I do :(

LOBI_M5 07-18-2006 03:59 PM

Bought original BMW upgrade CD...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteM
No mate I have the same problem, Downloaded from the links both 27 and 27.1 use 120% alcohol, used alsorts of CD's always slowest burn speed. Every thing seems OK put it in the player it says or does nothing!! Its fkucing annoying I am not a computer tech but I do what everyone says and yet get nothing. The only thing is when you do the image burn wizard on alcohol when you insert the file and hit next I go to a page asking choice of modes etc as noone has mentioned this I assume I leave it as the questions mean nothing to me I hit next and then chose lowest speed option and then press start. I just dont know what i am doing wrong and there was me hoping to get a decent start screen and speed camera poi's installed yet i cant even do whats suppose to be basic I am gutted. I am gonna have to buy it!!

Ok, I just bought an original CD with os v.27 off ebay. The guy guarantees it will work. Ok, we'll see... I will let you know if it worked and I can mail it to you too and we split the cost in half. Here's the ebay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=004

phil47 07-19-2006 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleuth255
Verified: this update fixes the satellite acquisition bug!. Acquisition is a whole different animal now. I'm noticing that almanac data is correctly being used for fast acquisition and I've been through 3 instances where v27 would've lost GPS lock with zero issues.

Agreed. v27.1 shows a marked improvement vs v27 when it comes to acquiring and locking on satellite signals. I upgraded to v27.1 strictly for this as v27 was drifting too often...

RichardP1 07-19-2006 10:39 AM

I've actually found V27.1 to be worse than V27 at acquiring a lock. The problem seems to be that it is remembering the satalites in the almanac, then when it's turned on again it is looking for those satalites first. Generally they have moved away and you get no satalites at all for up to 5 minutes after turning on the ignition. I never had this problem before V27.1.

trapdoor 07-19-2006 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardP1
I've actually found V27.1 to be worse than V27 at acquiring a lock. The problem seems to be that it is remembering the satalites in the almanac, then when it's turned on again it is looking for those satalites first. Generally they have moved away and you get no satalites at all for up to 5 minutes after turning on the ignition. I never had this problem before V27.1.

Oh crap! I really hope these issues (plus the damned suburbs/villages/minor towns display issue) get resolved. The new Mk4 my dealer fitted on Monday had V27.1 on, and they 'couldn't' put V26 or V25 on - so I may have to downgrade again and loose my coding. Never had ANY problems with the hacked V26.... just the recent hot spell screwed the Mk4 up as the fan was u/s.

WTF are BMW playing at with this software? Does anyone know if there WILL be a V28 out anytime soon? :tsk:

PeteM 07-19-2006 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trapdoor
Oh crap! I really hope these issues (plus the damned suburbs/villages/minor towns display issue) get resolved. The new Mk4 my dealer fitted on Monday had V27.1 on, and they 'couldn't' put V26 or V25 on - so I may have to downgrade again and loose my coding. Never had ANY problems with the hacked V26.... just the recent hot spell screwed the Mk4 up as the fan was u/s.

WTF are BMW playing at with this software? Does anyone know if there WILL be a V28 out anytime soon? :tsk:


I heard V28 is out late summer but I do know Sat Nav (Europe) 2007 is out in Late November so it might coincide with that.

trapdoor 07-19-2006 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteM
I heard V28 is out late summer but I do know Sat Nav (Europe) 2007 is out in Late November so it might coincide with that.

Hope you're right - particularly with 2007 as 2006-2 has some glaring errors introduced over 2005-2 - such as my street now has the wrong name, my house no longer exists etc ... Contacted Navteq and logged about 4 or 5 reports, all came back as verified issues and supposedly will be corrected at the next release. Though evidently (according to Navteq), BMW choose which mapping data to take, so it may not be the fully up to date version.

Considering how much BMW charge for each disk, seems a bit shoddy to me.

As for V28, I would love to know if they have an intention to fix the 'burbs' problem - took a while to convince my dealer it was an issue, and they still fitted my Mk4 with V27.1 on :mad: They claim it will be reported back, but I'm not convinced, and they tell me that I will have to pay for any future update too :mad: :mad:

phil47 07-19-2006 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardP1
I've actually found V27.1 to be worse than V27 at acquiring a lock. The problem seems to be that it is remembering the satalites in the almanac, then when it's turned on again it is looking for those satalites first. Generally they have moved away and you get no satalites at all for up to 5 minutes after turning on the ignition. I never had this problem before V27.1.

That is very weird as my experience is completely opposite. On the drive home today I reconfirmed that it not only acquired the lock quicker than before (within 10 seconds), but stayed locked. This is not to say that v27 was horrible, but I did notice the problem on occasion and so I upgraded based on info on this thread. I noticed the improvement immediately.:dunno:

frankieone 07-20-2006 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil47
That is very weird as my experience is completely opposite. On the drive home today I reconfirmed that it not only acquired the lock quicker than before (within 10 seconds), but stayed locked. This is not to say that v27 was horrible, but I did notice the problem on occasion and so I upgraded based on info on this thread. I noticed the improvement immediately.:dunno:

hello everybody!
I confirm: v27.1 is a lot quicker than v27!! :thumbup:
My experience with v27 was horrible...system often "frozen"....
thank you all for this great forum

ludo 07-25-2006 12:02 PM

Assist
 
Hi

Installed V27 to get the perpective on the navigation system All works well except my BMW Assist has now dissppeared from the menu ! Dealer says that I need to put original back on ( V 26 ) . Can anyone help ?

Thanks

timiboy 07-25-2006 12:05 PM

This is one of the issues they launched V27.1 for! Just get Your Nav updated and ASSIST coded back;) That's all!

Timiboy

ludo 07-25-2006 01:01 PM

Assist
 
Ok thanks . I am new to all this ...What do you mean by coded back , can I do this or do I have to go backto the dealer? :confused: Cheers

timiboy 07-25-2006 01:58 PM

It means Assist has to be activated with the DIS, meaning You will have to go to the dealer. This is something You can not do by Your own;)

Timiboy

PeterM 08-05-2006 11:39 PM

Wow, just upgraded to 27.1 and I must say perspective view is awesome! Never thought we'd be able to do see this view style on the current unit.

One question though, is the level of detail configurable? I can't find any options to display street names etc.

timiboy 08-06-2006 12:31 AM

No this is not configurable. The only thing You can switch on and off are the POI's and there only one category can be viewed at a time!

Timiboy

Tobmag 08-07-2006 01:57 PM

Quote:

The v27.1 CD can be found in ISO format here
(NB: The link has been updated as the previous image was corrupt)

Excellent:thumbup: but can I burn it with Ultra ISO or Magic ISO and in that case how?
My trialperiod with Alcohol120 just ended so :)

Thanx in adnavce........

Tobmag 08-07-2006 02:47 PM

:thumbup:

Magic ISO works perfect to burn the image. Will test it in the car later tonight:)

Tobmag

BabyMakingWeather 08-08-2006 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobmag
Excellent:thumbup: but can I burn it with Ultra ISO or Magic ISO and in that case how?
My trialperiod with Alcohol120 just ended so :)

If you read this thread, you'll see there's a link to the CD image in ***ISO*** format, specifically so that you do not have to use the Alcohol software. This ISO image works just fine with Nero, UltraIso and DVD Decryptor amongst others.

Tobmag 08-08-2006 06:27 AM

Well I realised that since it was a ISO file that it must be possible to use the software u suggested.
:doh:

Tobmag

ficelle 08-10-2006 06:17 AM

Hello,

Hope that doing the upgrade from V27 to V27.1 it will delete my ..:.. arrival time "trick"
My Nav says:
Ok you start your trip but you'll never arrive...sort of "lost in translation"!!
:confused:
anyway I'll tell you!

ficelle 08-11-2006 05:12 AM

Didn't want to upgrade to V27,1...
When I put the CD it said: system up to date... please remove CD and OK...
so I'm still onV27...
:rolleyes:

mcasteels 08-20-2006 09:01 AM

Updated my X3.

So for A European X3 it is also working:)

MrPutty 08-23-2006 09:13 AM

Hello everyone :)

This seems to be the largest V.27.1 thread on the net! Hopefully, someone here is savy and willing to help despite I do not own a BMW X-type ;)

My 07/01 E46 is running a MkIII navigation system with a MkIIIm Display (monochrome, radio-navigation). Current software version 3-2-30.

Can I use the V27.1 CD to update the system, even if it is not capable of splitscreen modus?

Your advice is highly appreciated!

Dankeschön from Germany,

MrPutty

RichardP1 08-23-2006 09:17 AM

Each Nav Software disk contains the latest version for all current and previous Nav systems. If the software has not changed for a particular system, the old version is still included on the disk.

So you should be able to use the V27.1 disk to update any system to the latest software.

MrPutty 08-23-2006 09:23 AM

Thank you for your response. It's an internal PDF from the "BMW Technial Services" that has me worried.

Here's an excerpt from the file:

Quote:


SITUATION

With the introduction of navigation system operating software V27, there are currently 2 valid versions of navigation software.

Navigation system operating software V17.1 is used on MK III systems 1. without "Split Screen".

Navigation system operating software V27 is used on MK I, MK II, all other MK III navigation systems, MK IV DVD navigation systems on I-Bus vehicles, NAVI01, NAVI02 and NAVI03.

For this reason I'm worried if all will go well....


RichardP1 08-23-2006 11:43 AM

V17.1 is the old software that was used on the 4:3 monitor (the look is the same as the MK II), some people like this screen layout and so don't want to load the later versions with the new fonts, split screen capability etc. You should be fine with the Radio Nav system.

shäferhunde 08-23-2006 12:26 PM

FYI for Mac users -

Sorry if this is posted elsewhere. For Mac users to burn the iso image, simply mount the image on the desktop by double clicking it, then launch Apple Disk Utility under /applications/utilities, then select the image and press burn. That's it.

Rusland 08-23-2006 03:29 PM

Thanks to everyone
 
Only becouse of your feedbacks, links and DIY instructions, I have done an upgade at X5 2003 with MKIV Navi, from ver 14 to ver 27.1 without any problems.
The improvements are significant - 3D option is an option is beter to have.
It's like moving from Windows to Mac, totaly new world :)

I have use Toastit software to burn CD and it accept all possible images without any problems.

AW8 08-28-2006 09:33 PM

Hi treat me gently Uk owner new to BMW's,X5's & SATNAVas well as not being a computer guru, (despite using them at home and work daily in recent years).

I met up with a local ebayer today to try and fit another V50 phone jack lead to my X5 (another story and full of technical hassle due to e39 cable being too short - I wont post here so as to keep this on topic) .

I have widescreen 16:9 comms & Nav screen & was running on 3-1/40 which was version 18 I think. Anyway this guy said as well as trying to resolve my phone cable, (as said still unresolved), he would upgrade my SATNAV OS software on my Mk3 satnav unit. He brought along a copy disc marked V.27.1 which I believe is the latest disc. It seems to have loaded ok, ( no need for key CD from my last version), and seems to be working fine, (just as well as I wouldn't have much idea in sorting issues without reading up on here and/or asking kind contributors). In short time since upgrade I can't notice any extra functionality although he said it would run quicker and would notify me in advance of roadholdups, ( a bit like traffic master ?) . I have noticed TMS shows red at times at bottom of display- I assumeed this was to do with traffic info of sorts.

He had earlier told me it would have birds eye view but before meeting I had already told him I thought birds eye was only available for Mk4. After install it was just as I thought still no birds eye view. He said he would check with a friend who knows more than he does and he has since sent me SMS text confirming no Birds eye view except on the Mk4 which is what I had said to him before upgrade.

2 questions :

1. I have trawled and serached and whilst the FAQ states no birds eye possible for Mk3 upgrade to V27.1 can someone confirm this is 100% definitely the case ?

2. The same guy told me to expect to be able to enter postcodes but I cant se this option in location finder. Am I missing something or is this for Mk4 only too ?

I have just moved house with plenty of spending as well as only just upgrading my car, (unfinanced), so def no plans for mods yet. I may in future consider getting a secondhand Mk4 and then selling my Mk3 on ebay (on wish list with other possible mod's).
Not one to have a nosebleed if not running latest tweaks or having all mods fitted - more happy in ownership at this stage to be grateful for what I own & that it's working correctly and just as it should be. (this goes for the whole car not just the NAV).

Thanks in anticipation - your answers to 1 & 2 appreciated.

RichardP1 08-29-2006 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AW8
1. I have trawled and serached and whilst the FAQ states no birds eye possible for Mk3 upgrade to V27.1 can someone confirm this is 100% definitely the case ?

100%, birds eye view is only available on Mk IV's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AW8
2. The same guy told me to expect to be able to enter postcodes but I cant se this option in location finder. Am I missing something or is this for Mk4 only too ?

This 'feature' is disk dependent. As far as I know all genuine BMW CD map disks do not have postcode information (but I'm not 100% sure about the latest disks from 2006). You can get VDO disks that will work in the MK III that do have postcodes on.

The DVD map disks from 2006-2 do have postcodes on them.

The Postcodes are not implemented fully on either disk, only the first 4-5 characters, they are implemented as a 'City' - better than nothing but not briliant.

In the US the latest Nav software and latest disk are supposed to support full ZIP code entry, this may be comming to the UK in the next software/disk update.

The TMC (not TMS) that you see on your screen is the Traffic Message Channel that notifies you of traffic holdups. If the letters are in red then the map disk you have does not have TMC codes that are required to recieve the messages, the latest BMW CD map disks MAY have the codes on, the VDO disks are available with and without them on.

This is the VDO disk with codes : http://www.navshop.com/en/product/un...yton/3027/18/1

This is the one without : http://www.navshop.com/en/product/un...yton/3026/18/1

AW8 08-29-2006 03:22 AM

:) Thanks for a comprehensive and accurate reply

bomerkill 09-01-2006 08:46 PM

hey guys i was wondering id you could help me while i was updateing something went wrong and my nav dosent not work at all and all i get is a white screen all the time can some one plz help me to fix this thankz in advance

UCrewX5 09-01-2006 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomerkill
hey guys i was wondering id you could help me while i was updateing something went wrong and my nav dosent not work at all and all i get is a white screen all the time can some one plz help me to fix this thankz in advance

Burn a fresh disk at the lowest possible speed and on the best quality CD-R media you can get your hands on. Put the new disk in your nav drive, cross your fingers and hope for the best.

bomerkill 09-01-2006 09:00 PM

i tried this i burned it at 4x i have the 17.1 and the 27.1 i am tryin to install the 17.1 to see if it will work but nothing comes up all it is a white screen i can see any menus or anything it also keeps ejecting the cd after 15-15 sec i really need help with this so plz anything will help
thankz

RichardP1 09-02-2006 03:08 AM

V17.1 will not install on a MK IV, it's for MK III and below. Which type of Nav Computer do you have?

Chris_h 09-02-2006 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomerkill
..... i am tryin to install the 17.1 to see if it will work but nothing comes up all it is a white screen .......

Sounds like you're just using a trial and error method. I would suggest this is not a good idea. There's plenty of info on here and maybe you'd be better researching before acting?

bomerkill 09-02-2006 11:13 AM

heyy guys thanks for the quick replys but i got the answer if anybody tried to update a mkIII to v27.1 and now has a blank screen do this search for V22.1 and burn it with clone cd @ 1x aslo you will need a cd key but all you have to do is insert it and let it sit in the nav drive over night .......if anybody need v22.1 just let me no and i will post it up for you guys i also have the cd key if u need it

pingui 09-06-2006 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyMakingWeather
The v27.1 CD can be found in ISO format here
(NB: The link has been updated as the previous image was corrupt)

Hi There,
The link seems to be outdated ...
Any change to reactivate ?
Would like to update my MK4 to V27.1, too

Thanks for any help.
Regards

-----

Update: Disregards all - managed to download from another site and burned and updated my MK4 -- nice ...

dczay 09-08-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobmag
Excellent:thumbup: but can I burn it with Ultra ISO or Magic ISO and in that case how?
My trialperiod with Alcohol120 just ended so :)

Thanx in adnavce........


Does anyone know which programs I can use with a Mac to do what you all are doing using XP? Thanks.

shäferhunde 09-11-2006 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dczay
Does anyone know which programs I can use with a Mac to do what you all are doing using XP? Thanks.

Umm, look down about 12 posts?

ziofire 09-18-2006 09:08 PM

Installing Nav OS V. 27.1 on a BMW 7 series
 
Hi everybody !
I have a just little bit question:

I can upgrade Nav Os on a Bmw 7 series with i-drive using only NavOS 27.1 CD or i must have a "Progman"? :confused:

If i can using only the cd, someone can tell me how to ...
Otherwise, that is "Progman" ? Where i can find it ?

And also, i m looking about information over difference from X5 nav os and 7series i-drive nav os.

PLEASE HELP ME !!!
THX A LOTS ! :thumbup:

PS=If you want, contact me at [email protected] !

I need this info ASAP..... :rolleyes:

onelovebmw 09-20-2006 09:52 AM

Hi guys First time i've every used a forum. Very Interesting.
I have just installed V27.1 on my MkIV. And it seems to work ok, But I do not seem to have the choice of "Birds Eye View" or "3D (Perspctive View)".
It seems to be only in the 2D "birds Eye" view.
Should there be an option?
How do I change the view?

Cheers

PeteM 09-20-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onelovebmw
Hi guys First time i've every used a forum. Very Interesting.
I have just installed V27.1 on my MkIV. And it seems to work ok, But I do not seem to have the choice of "Birds Eye View" or "3D (Perspctive View)".
It seems to be only in the 2D "birds Eye" view.
Should there be an option?
How do I change the view?

Cheers

If you have 4-1/70 or higher, you need to enable the Perspective feature by doing a one-time setting change in the nav computers service menu. Do this:

* Push the "MENU" button to get to the the main menu.
* Scroll to the "SETTINGS" menu selection and click the knob to select it.
* Push and hold the "MENU" button for about 8 seconds to enter the GPS Service Menu.
* Scroll beyond the bottom to a 2nd page, where you will get the Perspective option.
* Click the knob on the Perspective option to select it. - Now you will be able to select Perspective within the navigation map view.

onelovebmw 09-20-2006 11:11 AM

Thanks Pete, did exactly like you said and now its up and running perfectly. Many Thanks.

I have also just installed the 2006-2 dvd (Purchased on ebay) it was supposed to also have fixed speed camera locations on it but for some reason it is not showing these.

PeteM 09-20-2006 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onelovebmw
Thanks Pete, did exactly like you said and now its up and running perfectly. Many Thanks.

I have also just installed the 2006-2 dvd (Purchased on ebay) it was supposed to also have fixed speed camera locations on it but for some reason it is not showing these.

I assume its a copy so it may not be there but if it is it will probably be under your POI's in the nav menu setup, then you must select it as you would petrol stations, car parks etc. If its based on the standard setup then you can only view one set of poi's at a time.


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