V30 has been released
 

BMW Navigation OS disk V30 has been released.

It contains:
<Navi> <SW version>
Mk1 = 8.0
Mk2 = 8.1 colour / 9.0 mono
Mk3 = 6.3 colour / 5.1 mono
Mk4 = 9.1 colour & mono (no change from V29)
NAVI01 = 7.3.2
NAVI02 = 8.4.4
NAVI03 = 9.6.04

OS disk part number = 01 59 0 141 891, Index W

Pah, BMW were supposed to be sorting out the 'bug' from V27 onwards where small towns, villages and suburbs were not displayed in the right-hand pane of the split screen.

Looks like all development on the Mk4 has now ceased.

That would be a major bummer. I was counting on a couple more years of MKIV updates for the Z4 and X3. Maybe the town bug is harder to fix, and we will get a V31?:thumbup:

To be fair, we don't know it is a bug.

If BMW delierately removed the function of displaying suburb names, then the software would be working perfectly, and there would be no bugs to fix....

Remember, a bug is when something does not work as it is designed to do, and if we don't know what the design specifications are, we cannot really say something is a 'bug'...

Have you installed it?

I reported it back to BMW via my dealer through a PuMA case - BMW required my dealer to run parallel tests on a car with V26 or earlier and V27 or later software. They used my vehicle and one of their stock cars.Mine was on V26 and theirs was on V28.

They took the car to a known place where I had noticed the 'bug' and then took photo's of both screens. This was passed back to BMW technical who concurred that it WAS a bug and would be resolved but probably not in the next release (which was V29or V29.1).

This bug can be a REAL issue as I have described before. In the UK, many towns and villages have streets with the same name - High Street, Church Road etc are but two that immediately spring to mind. So, if you perhaps break down, come across an accident or even have an accident somewhere you don't know, you could look down at the nav and give your location as High Street but the town locator would be the nearest MAJOR postal town, not the actual town you are in. As a real-life example, near where I live there is a small town called Portishead. It has a HIGH STREET. BUT, when you are there, your location is given as HIGH STREET, BRISTOL. This is a major city some 15 miles away!

Now, I know that I am in Portishead, but if I was a visitor, on a dark wet night who had broken down, then I wouldn't necessarily know that.

12 months or so ago (perhaps longer), BMW concurred that this level of information was unacceptable - lets face it, it potentially makes the nav useless for anyting other than route planning as you don't (readily) know where you are at a given point - regardless of whether you have route guidance on or off.

TBH, if they DON'T resolve it, I am going to go back to running the hacked V26 that Martin Bishop developed that DID have the correct town info displayed AND would allow running in perspective mode.

The only issue is that I cannot recall if Postcode searching worked in V26 - I think not.

IMHO, for us in the UK, this 'bug' is a real issue - but it's funny that many people who have upgraded from V26 or earlier never even realised there WAS a difference in the way locations were displayed- until I pointed it out and then realisation (and annoyance) dawned!

V30
 

Is V30 available for download?

Nope, because I don't have a copy, and have not yet found a source for one

NAVI01 = 7.3.2
NAVI02 = 8.4.4
NAVI03 = 9.6.04


Are those versions of the iDrive NAV system?

Is it safe to go from a V26 to a V30 right away on a MK4?

Yes.

Yes

No! iDrive is not the same.

These are the versions for the old GPS systems MKI, MKII, MKIII and MKIV (MK1 to 4), present on old BMW's up to 3-series E46 and X3 and the older X5.

The iDrive systems, which are microsoft windows based, are not upgradeable by the user. You need to go to BMW to "reinstall your system" and/or run the "system updates".

iDrive system based on VxWorks RTOS system, not Windows

Not completely true. Not all iDrive cars use the new VxWorks RTOS system; some iDrive cars use the VDO-Dayton system (as fitted to E38, E39, E46, X5 etc)

The 7-Series E65 uses the NAVI01, NAVI02 and NAVI03 computers. These are based on the same nav system as the i-bus cars. The NAVI01, NAVI02 are CD-based, and essentially a variant of the Mk3.

The NAVI03 is DVD/CD based, and is a variant of the Mk4.

The other MOST-based cars with iDrive use different nav systems - the VxWorks RTOS system - they have the CCC system in the dash.

But the E65 7-series uses the NAV01/02/03, with the nav computer mounted in the boot. That nav system can be updated through inserting the V30 nav OS CD. I know, I've done a few.

The CCC cars are updated over the diagnostic system.

And then, of course, the Japanese cars use a completely different system again...

Jochen

Trapdoor. Do you have this OS to share with us? I have the same problem here in Sweden. The navi only shows the name of the county, not the actual city!
I will pass by my dealer to see what they say.

BR//tobmag

Somewhere - I have to see if I can find it! I had a major tidy up a few months ago so it won't be where I can find it easily :rolleyes:

I am kind of hoping it will still be available on the net somewhere - perhaps Martin still has a copy if all else fails. If I can find it, I'll stick the image up on Rapidshare.

I would urge you though to call it in to your dealer - it's the only way the issue will get correctly resolved. You need to get them to compare it though to a pre-version 27 nav if they have one.

this system based on Microwave OS9000 (VDO-Dayton or Siemens don't engineering own OS systems)


e65\66\67 iDrive based on Windows CE. Navi working on virtual frame and using Microwave OS


iDrive on e60\90\70 etc working on VxWorks

When can we get the software to download?
Anybody get it already and will share it?
Many thanks.

Just to clarify..

If you do not have an iDrive car, v30 will not update your nav system.

Do I have an iDrive car? My car is BMW 320D nov 2003 with MK4 4-1/91 n.t. FY34072.

No, the (2003 320D) E46 is not an iDrive car.

You already have the latest SW version installed, so V30 will not change anything for you

Tx, BMW 320D dec 2005 E46 (restiling 150 CV) is an iDrive car?

No, all E46 cars are NOT iDrive cars.

The iDrive is the large, round controller that is on the centre console between the front seats.

E46 does NOT have iDrive

Thanks a lot, I have understood that v30 it is not for e46.

v30 *IS* for the E46, but if you already have v29, there's no need to bother to update, as v30 brings nothing new.

Same thing for Europeans with v28, there's no need to update as v29 only contains some small fixes for USA.

For "Angelych":

1. Yor car (E46) is not an iDrive car.

2. Soft v.30 is for your car (E46), but if you already have the latest version (4-1/91 = MKIV with v.29.1) installed, then v.30 will not change anything for you...

These are two different cases !!!

Regards

So guys any news on when V30 will be available for downloading? Thanks.

Sorry but I need to ask if this works in my E70. I've updated my 1st Gen X5 before, but not the 2nd gen...

Just need some clarification, seem to be getting mixed signals on what is going on with this release.

Thanks :)

Nope, new X5 (E70) can be updated by BMW only using diagnostic system.
Cannot update E70 with V30 Os disc.

Cool! So can anyone provide us with a download link for V30 for our MK IV DVD navs? Thanks fellas.

Keep googling, no source known yet

Same file in ISO format
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RKMA1GYF

Thats great guys, thanks for the download link. CHeers.

hello,

so i can use this update on my BMW 5, E60, 2004 with professional navi, with cd and dvd slot?

this must be burned to CD and inserted in CD slot, not the DVD right?

No, The E60 can only be updated over the BMW diagnostic system.

hi
where do i find v30 for download please thanks

Here: http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...available.html