MK3 + 16:9 Upgrade problem
 

Hi all

I have just upgraded my MK1 + 4:3 Screen to a MK3 + 16:9 Screen.

But the picture in all (navi, tel, computer etc), are still all in 4:3 format.

I think that my current TV Tuner / Video Module does not support 16:9 television.

but but but... Should all the other things (like my boardcomputer, audio etc) not been shown in 16:9 after the upgrade?
Or does it run together witn the video module, or do I just need the items to be coded ?

Anyone ?

My car is an 530D from 99 .

Thanks in advance,
Thomas , Denmark

Hmmmmmmmm
You should do update of you MK3, only later software supports 16:9
You will have issues with TV untill you change tuner

Welcome to the forum Thomas,

I think E5M1R is right, get hold of a v29/v30 firmware disc (or download it from here) and update to the latest for the MK3 (v23?), it should sort out the non TV issues, but you will need to update the tv module at some point.

Update to SW 4-1/91 (V30) and you need a 16:9 Videomodule.
Is it a screen with Casette or CD?
BM24 or BM54?

What has BM (radio module got to do with it?

Hi
Just updated the system with version 29 (v23 on my MK3)
But still same problem ... My radiomodule is BM24

Do I need to disconnect the battery in 15 minuts ? (not tryied yet)

I will soon buy a TV Tuner with 16:9 tuner, but until I just would like the navi-part and computer to be in 16:9.

Thanks

:worthless: Pictures?

You need a 16:9 Videomodule for sure.
If you have a cd player behind your 16:9 screen you also need a BM54 Radiomodule and a wiring link cable from BM24 wiring to BM54.

Hi
I do only have a nice casette-deck behind the screen ;)

I will buy a 16:9 Tv tuner / Radiomodule very soon, but until then I would
like to view the boardcomputer / GPS in 16:9 if possible .

If you have your MK III connected right it will show in 16:9 mode after update. Tv tuner will only interfear with 16:9 and go to 4:3 when you watch tv, so let me put this clearly for you, Your problem right now is not TV or Radio module, When MK 3 is connected right it is the primary video suorce. If you can se Navigation menu on your nav screen and you updated the software in MK3 then check wires or something becouse it should work.

Not VALID INFO!!!
The primary video source is mk3, but the bordmonitor gets the picture via TV module. You can check it, disconnect the TV modul, and there will be no picture on bordmonitor. I have different TV modules, and if I connect a 4:3 TV module into my 2002 E39 (original 16:9 system), there will be 4:3 main menu, navigation, telephone etc.
Back to the original problem: concepo has to buy a 16:9 TV-module, this is the solution.

Bombolo

Ok, thanks for the answers so far ;)

I have just talked to a guy here in Denmark, who has a TV tuner.
He thinks it is a 16:9 but he is not sure.

This is what is written on the TV Tuner / Radiomodule box:
BMW.6 911 221-
037138052 044109 00
LEAR HW:04/SW:11/AI:01 04831 .

Can someone tell me if its for 16:9 or the old model,

Thanks ,
Thomas

,
Sure if you say so...
All i know is that the MK is primary video source and TV secondary. My 330 Cab had no tv module and everything worked fine.
So what you mean is if you have tv module it controls menu navi and so on since he has everything in 4:3, so he could basicly remove or dissconenct tv module and he should get 16:9?

Yes, your TV module supports the 16:9 display.

http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/230382

If you don't have TV function in your car, the mk3 gives the picture directly to the bordmonitor. Even an mk2 can give fullscreen picture on a 16:9 monitor.
If you have tv function, without TV module there will be no picture on the bordmonitor, because the wiring is serial. mk3->TV module->Bordmonitor.
So in this case the TV module determines displayed picture.
Bombolo

(c) BMW WDS

So, if there is a navi - video signal is developed by NAVI!!!

Yes but the video signal developed by navi is going through the TV module!!!!!!!!!!! So if the TV modul is 4:3, the output will be 4:3, even in case of the main menu!!!!
If you don't believe me, try a 16:9 system with a 4:3 TV module.

Sorry but I do not have at this moment 4:3 TVmodule..... otherwise I checked already

But I do have, so here is some pic. ;)
Original 16:9 system with original 16:9 TV module (SW:11)
http://www.mobilgumi.hu/felni/navi_16_9.jpg
Original 16:9 system with 4:3 TV module (SW:08)
http://www.mobilgumi.hu/felni/navi_4_3.jpg
you can see, that it is an mk4 with perspective view, but the old TV module (SW:08) gives 4:3 pic.
http://www.mobilgumi.hu/felni/navi_4_3_3d.jpg

Looks like you tested it out on the E39. Now I have a '97 540 with both Navi and TV, does than mean that If I get both 16:9 screen and the MK3/MK4 units, the pic will still look jacked up because my original TV unit is 4:3? Also, what benefits do I get if I just upgrade my MK1 to MK3? I mean they cost around $200 used, does it worth it? And can I even do that with existing wiring, since I've been on forums for a while now and have yet to come across the MK1 unit. Any info's appreciated, thanks folks =)

Yes, it is an E39, but the system is similar to e38, E46, E53.
If you upgrade from mk1 to mk3, you have to buy an adapter cable, 61 12 6 915 132. The mk3 is faster, have a newer menu design, female voice and split screen option. I think the benefits of an mk3 appears rahter on a 16:9 display, so it a display change is also recommended. Therefore you also have to buy a 16:9 TV modul.

Thanks for the quick reply. I might as well just stick with MK1. Thanks again =))

Thank's for the pictures! I really had wrong info!

As Bombolo said already, you have to buy an I-Bus cable and this is a biggest question - to implement this cable into the car. All the rest is simple