V.31 released already?
 

Anyone heard of this release? In a german forum someone says, that V.31 with changes for MK4 is already released?

Hi KaiO;
is your nick the same in the german forum?

joh, man :D

o.k.
So I think we have the same information source.....

where is it?:popcorn:

due to the information a BMW-dealer in Germany posted in this forum
http://www.auto-treff.com/bmw/vb/sho...93#post2237793

the V.31 was released three days ago.
He said, that changes would affect the MK4 as well.

Unfortunately, my German isn't up to par. Would someone be able to translate the updates to english?

For short translation see post from KaiO.
No further information until now.

new information from the german forum:
new version on MK4 is 10.0

I'm not sure, but maybe I have just got a V31 CD.
Just put it in a MK3 an he goes to SW 3-1/65. Tonight I try it with a MK4.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...6/S5031812.jpg

I thought the V30 was SW 3-1/63, so maybe it is really V31.....:rolleyes:

that would be very interesting for all MK3-owners.

According to a user in a german forum, the routing is improved now and apparently the raphical buildup is quicker. Would be nice.

When can we expect a copy of v31 on any Torrent or similar???

Can someone work on getting a copy posted of the SI B 84 01 02 so we will know what the official changes are?

How do you know that is the correct SIB?

I really don't but I have copies of 6 earlier issues that all used that number and just changed the issue date.

I see. Last time I checked, and unfortunately I'd have to find it to be sure, but at some point BMW changed the SIB number of the nav updates. I thought it was rather recent, like 2 or 3 updates ago, but maybe it was earlier. I just thought that maybe you saw the v31 SIB that's all. Chances are you're right and v31 is the same SIB as V30 was, however just keep in mind that it MIGHT be different.

The last one I have is Ver 27.1 of July 06. Let me know where to find the PDFs of any of the later ones if you can as I would like to update my file. Martin Bishop used to post them but I have not seen any for some time.

For starters check out the BMW Navigation System FAQ which has a bunch of the TSB's linked. If I find others I'll let you know.

I tried with a MK4, but he stays black screen:(
But if anyone wants the MK3 SW 3-1/65 software, just PM me or sent a mail to: [email protected]

Can you please send the update? Where can you download it?
Thank you in advance!

Hi-
I don't understand what you mean by "stays black screen" ? Did it crash your navigation system? Is this an original disc from the dealer or is a copy that you received from someone?

It's a direct copy from a dealer disc.

Maybe there's a burn fail or some. It only work with MK3, goes to SW 3-1/65.

I will try to get a new copy

Not in the US System yet. Still shows V30

SI B 65 21 02
Audio, Navigation, Monitors, Alarms, SRS September 2007
Technical Service

This Service Information Bulletin supersedes S.I. B84 01 02 dated May 2007.
designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
Navigation System Operating Software
MODEL
E38 (7 Series)
E39 (5 Series)
E46 (3 Series)
E53 (X5)
E83 (X3)
E85, E86 (Z4)
E65, E66 (7 Series)
SITUATION
With the introduction of Navigation system operating software V30, there are currently 2 valid versions of Navigation software.
Navigation system operating software V17.1 is used on MK III systems without "Split Screen".
Navigation system operating software V30 is used on MK I, MK II, all other MK III navigation systems, MK IV DVD navigation systems on I-Bus vehicles, NAVI01, NAVI02 and NAVI03.
CORRECTION
Navigation system operating software should be updated under the following circumstances:
E65, E66: Navigation system is inoperative after arrival at the destination
E65, E66: Incorrect address book
The Navigation computer has been replaced.
Progman prompts during programming/coding the navigation software to be updated.
If instructed by a Service Information Bulletin or the Technical Hotline.
NEW FEATURES INTRODUCED WITH NAVIGATION SOFTWARE V30
No new features
FEATURES INTRODUCED WITH PRIOR NAVIGATION SOFTWARE V29
Destination input screen text changes:
"State/Province" instead of "Country"
"City/Postal Code" instead of "City/ZIP"
"Town/City" instead of "City" (only in conjunction with road maps before 2006-2)
FEATURES INTRODUCED WITH PRIOR NAVIGATION SOFTWARE V28
E83, E85, E86: Software fix for the following Display/Flap issues:
Display turns back on after switching "Monitor off"
Flap opens/closes by itself
Flap doesn't open
FEATURES INTRODUCED WITH PRIOR NAVIGATION SOFTWARE V27
Only E46 (3 Series), E53 (X5), E83 (X3), E85 (Z4) with DVD Navigation system
Disclaimer screen disappears automatically after 8 second
City/Town names displayed in the map
E46 (3 Series), E53 (X5), E83 (X3), E85 (Z4) with DVD Navigation system
E65, E66 (7 Series) DVD NAVI03 (from03/05)
Destination input when Country (UNITED STATES or CANADA) is selected via:
ZIP code (only for UNITED STATES)
City name
Destination input when an US State or a Canadian Province is selected via:
Street name
City name
ZIP code (only for UNITED STATES)

Note: Only in conjunction with NAVTEQ DVD road Map 2006-2 or a more recent version
POI (Point of Interest) icons and "City Center" icons are displayed together
Travel Information (TMC) is no longer displayed (is inactive and not selectable)
Entries in "Address Book/Last Destination" displayed as:
City name, Street name (Destination entry via City name)
ZIP code, City name, Street name (Destination entry via ZIP code)
Product Information
Legal Disclaimer for usage of the Navigation system and the data on the NAVTEQ road maps
How to report missing or incorrect data feedback to NAVTEQ:
Website:www.navteq.com/bmwmaps
Phone: 1-888-navteq9 (628-8379)
Email: [email protected]
FEATURES INTRODUCED WITH PRIOR NAVIGATION SOFTWARE V26
The actual location is shown as an arrow in a circle
The destination is marked with a checkered flag
Map Positioning in "Travel Direction" can now be selected in scales up to 100 mls
Disable POI icons is now selectable on I-Bus DVD NAV systems in:
General Destinations
Travel Information
The following functions are now selectable on E65, E66 with NAVI03 (from 03/2005):
Hide Map Icons
General Destinations and Travel Information
After loading NAVI SW V30, the vehicle must be driven to ensure the proper function of the Navigation system and the correct displaying of road number icons (e.g. Interstate Icons)
CHECKING SOFTWARE VERSION
MK I Systems
The software version is shown in the top right corner of the "setting" screen. The software/hardware version is displayed as "1-1/80". The numbers have the following meanings: first digit 1 - is a 1st generation navigation system (MK I); second digit 1 - is a 1st device variant (top navigation – MK Ic color screen); the last two digits 80 - are the software version of the graphic component (8.0).
MK II Systems
The software version is shown in the top right corner of the "setting" screen. The software/hardware version is displayed as "2-1/81". The numbers have the following meanings: first digit 2 - is a 2nd generation navigation system (MK II); second digit 1 - is a 1st device variant (top navigation – MK IIc color screen); the last two digits 81 - are the software version of the graphic component (8.1).
MK III Systems
The software version is shown in the top right corner of the "setting" screen. The software/hardware version is displayed as "3-1/63" or "3-2/63"(MK III with split screen). The numbers have the following meanings: first digit 3 - is a 3rd generation navigation system (MK III); second digit 1 - is a 1st device variant (top navigation – MK IIIc color screen), or 2 – is a 2nd device variant (radio navigation – MK IIIm monochrome display); the last two digits 63 - are the software version of the graphic component (6.3).
DVD navigation system for I-Bus vehicles
The software version is shown in the top right corner of the "setting" screen. The software/hardware version is displayed as "4-1/91". The numbers have the following meanings: first digit 4 - is a 4th generation navigation system (DVD); second digit 1 - is a 1st device variant (top navigation – DVD color screen); the last two digits 91 - are the software version of the graphic component (9.1).
E65, E66 Systems
Enter the Service Mode of the Control Display
Select "MOST Devices"
Scroll down and select "Navigation"
Scroll down a few pages until "Software Version" is displayed
Software Version for CD navigation (NAVI01) should be 7.3.2 (I-level E065-05-03-810.2)
Software Version for DVD navigation (NAVI02) should be 8.4.4 (I-level E065-05-03-800.2)
Software Version for DVD navigation (NAVI03) should be 9.6.04 (I-level E065-07-09-500)
Current Software Versions
Software version
Application
8.0
MK I - E39, E38 (up to 9/97)
8.1
MK II - E39, E38 (from 9/97), E46, X5
9.0
MK II - Radio Navigation – E52 (Z8)
5.1
MK III Radio Navigation – E52 (Z8) from 09/00
3.1*
MK III w/o Split Screen -E46 from 06/00, E39,E38 from 09/00, E53 from 10/00
6.3
MK III with Split Screen
9.1
MK IV DVD Navigation
7.3.2
E65, E66 NAVI01 (CD-drive)
8.4.4
E65, E66 NAVI02 (DVD-drive)
9.6.04
E65, E66 NAVI03 (DVD-drive)
*Included in Navigation software CD V17.1
LOADING SOFTWARE (ALL EXCEPT E65, E66)
For MK I, MK II, MK III, and DVD NAV systems (except E65, E66) use the following software loading instructions:
Turn ignition to position 1 (terminal R).
Do not cycle the key or perform diagnosis while installing the new software. Make sure that the power supply is stable, i.e. do not switch on any electrical loads.
Activate "GPS-Navigation" and acknowledge the screen disclaimer by pushing the rotary knob.
Remove the map CD from the Navigation computer by pressing "eject" button.
Insert the Navigation Software CD (V17.1 P/N 01 59 9 789 299 index "x" for MK III without split screen, V30 P/N 01 59 0 141 891 index "w" for all other versions).
Mark I System (up to 9/97 production):
After a few seconds, the BMW roundel will appear on the board monitor and will be "filled in" clockwise to show the progress of loading (approx. 4-6 minutes).
Mark II System (from 9/97 production),
Mark III System (E46 from 06/00 and E38, E39, E52 from 09/00 production),
DVD navigation system (E46, E39, E52 from 09/02 and E53, E85 from 10/02 production):
After a few seconds, a menu of notes on loading procedure and "progress" bar appear on the board monitor.
When the loading process has been completed, the message "Software has been successfully loaded" is displayed.
Remove the operating software CD and confirm the end of the loading process by pressing the rotary push-button on the board monitor. "OK" appears in the display.
Drive the vehicle before delivering to the customer to ensure the correct function and displaying (Interstate Icons) of the Navigation system.
LOADING SOFTWARE (E65, E66 ONLY)
When programming any E65, E66 using Progman V27.0 or higher, you will be prompted by the Progman screen that "BMW Navigation CD Version 30" must be loaded prior to programming the vehicle.
Note: Connect an approved battery charger before loading software.
Turn on ignition to Terminal R or 15
Enter the Navigation Menu.
Remove the NAVTEQ road map CD/DVD
Insert the Navigation Operating Software CD V30 (P/N 01 59 0 141 891 index "w") into the navigation computer and use Progman V27.0 or a more recent version for NAVI03 (DVD navigation).
Select "Yes" with the Controller to install software.
The software will then load in two steps, takes approximately 10-15 minutes.
Do not touch the iDrive while the software is loading.
When the installation is finished the CD will be ejected. The message "Installation Successful, Remove Software loading CD and press OK" will appear. At this point select "OK" with the Controller.
The Navigation system will then "reinitialize".
When prompted, insert NAVTEQ road map CD/DVD.
Refer to SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization and Programming) for any necessary coding and programming. Note that Progman will automatically reprogram all programmable control units that do not have the latest software.
Drive the vehicle before delivering to the customer to approve the correct function and displaying (Interstate Icons) of the Navigation system.
NAVIGATION COMPUTER REPLACEMENT MK III AND MK IV
When replacing a defective MK III or MK IV NAV computer, a configuration signal is required to allow the new computer to load the correct software for its respective application. This is generated by using the SSS (Software Service Station) loaded with Progman V27.0 or higher and the Navigation System operating software CD V17.1 or V30.
Connect the Deutronic battery charger to vehicle
Connect the SSS via a diagnostic head or an O(P)PS (For D-CAN vehicles) to the vehicle
Open a "New session" in Progman and select "Load SW" and follow the on-screen messages
Select "Retrofits"
Select "Languages"
First select "Display" to select/check the correct languages
Then select "Navigation" to select the languages for the NAV system
At prompt "Is the CD-ROM present?" – select "Yes", but do not insert Navigation CD into the Nav Computer yet!
First select the main language and then an additional language (the choices are: English, French, Italian, Spanish, German)
NOTE: The announcer's voice gender (male or female) can't be selected anymore.
MK I, MK II & MK III: Only male.
MK IV (DVD NAV), NAVI01, NAVI02 & NAVI03: Only female
After activation of the automatic coding, the DIS tester tells you to follow the instructions on the monitor for Navigation CD installation
Place the Navigation CD into the navigation computer CD drive
Important: Do not switch ignition OFF during software loading procedure
Once loading has been completed, remove the CD and then confirm completion by pressing the rotary push-button on the monitor
Turn ignition OFF for 10 seconds, then turn it ON and conduct a functional check
After this step has been finished, encode the Navigation computer in the regular manner using the path "1 Recoding"
TROUBLESHOOTING HINTS
The following problems may occur during the software loading procedure:
The message "CD defective" appears on the display screen.
The message "Fault during programming" appears on the display screen.
The message "The system is restarting" appears on the display screen.
The installation process has stopped and the display screen is blank and the power LED on the navigation computer is off. The CD will not eject.
These complaints are usually the result of a faulty Navigation Operating software CD.
For points 1-3 for error messages that appear on the display screen, check for the correct software version and try loading a new Navigation CD.
For a CD that will not eject from the Navigation computer follow the procedure below:
Remove the Navigation computer.
Unplug the voltage supply (blue connector).
Reconnect the voltage supply and immediately press the eject button repeatedly until the CD in the drive is ejected.
Insert a new Navigation CD and restart the installation process.
PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
01 59 9 789 299
Navigation Software CD V17.1 Index "x"
01 59 0 141 891
Navigation Software CD V30 Index "w"
Copies of the NAV SW CD V30 will be shipped to every BMW Center through the Automatic Tool Shipment Program.
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Updating the vehicle at customer request is not covered under warranty.

My insider at a UK dealer got V31 today and got this info off the disc for me

Mk3 software same colour 6.3 rad 5.1 :thumbdown

Mk4 DVD colour 10.0 rad 10.0 :rofl:

Not had chance to see/test this yet

That's really strange, because with that weird disc from me, that MK3 colour went to 6.5 (3-1/65).
Maybe it's just a modified disc or some.

But with the real V31 the MK4 goes to 4-1/100 ? :rofl:

Do you have a picture of the screen shot showing 4-1/100 ?

It goes to 4-1/00 official

Sorry to keep you all guessing but i have not seen it myself or have any screen shots

Any link yet for a download?

i can confirm that. i got v31 from my dealer 2 days ago.. i didn't notice any abvious changes, but it seemd that everythiung is faster now... :D

Hi- Can you upload a screenshot photo showing the version number?

ok... it's 01:41am and i'm into my garage for taking this shoot... im amazed about myself :D

just a few min..

i would say this is enough "evidence" :)

http://image.houbi.ch/V31/IMG_0038.JPG

http://image.houbi.ch/V31/IMG_0040.JPG

http://image.houbi.ch/V31/IMG_0044.JPG


http://image.houbi.ch/V31/IMG_0052.JPG

http://image.houbi.ch/V31/IMG_0056.JPG

Hi Houbi;
nice to meet you in this forum as well. I already sent you a PN in the BMW forum....

This is VERY interesting information. According to the stuff printed on the actual disk, the version number for Mk 3 systems is the same as with Ver 30.0 so it in fact shouldn't cause a version change from 3-1/63 to 3-1/65 as was reported in the beginning of this thread. Weird. In fact the only changes appear to be with NAVI03 which is 9.6.04 in ver 30 and now 9.7.02 and in DVD-Top which I assume means MK4 (someone verify this please) which would indicate a change from 9.1 in ver 29 and also ver 30 to 10.0 in this ver 31.
If that is the case, the SIB of the version would be VERY interesting to read.

TOP ist MK4, yes. Whre can i find the SIB? thaht long number??

it's 01 59 0 141 891

download link?

Sorry guys. i'm not going to make an image and spread it. i promised BMW not to do so... I hope you all can understand my situation. i'm sure there will be a link available in the next couple days..

Ok tx very much

Thanks Houbi for thooses pictures !!!

We are now all waitting for the release note !

Thomas

houbi, the information is usefull to us anyway!

thank you for the pictures - at least we know that it EXISTS!

Yes, exists..... and even availible http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...available.html :thumbup: THNX appy!

correct. i'm still wating for bmw to send me the list of changes... i'll keep you up to date!

It would be interesting!:thumbup:

:thumbup:

My guess is probably bug fixes only - lets see if anyone can find any new features...

hmm, downloaded and modded for my splash, sky and pointers and every thing went OK, menus seem a little faster and the screen graphics seem a little sharper as well as a bit brighter.

However, on the way home from work tonight, the nav rebooted 6 times, major bummer, downgraded back to my v29 (same mods, same map disc) and it's perfect. No reboots.

I'll have another go at burning v31 (with imgburn) and try at a higher speed (min supported for the CD) and see if that makes a difference.

Any one have any ideas?

I had reboting issues if navbot file got to big becouse of the mods, so i simply deleted or replaced any icons or pics that are not used by system (Mini splash to blank, nav poi icons to blank, birdview arows to blank) i also replaced language voice files that i dont use (German and Franch) with mail files witch are smaler. Overall nav spead was better and it stoped reboting. This was with v29 did not get to mod 31 yet
So check the original file size and compare to the moded one if the moded one is to big that might be the issue
You shoud aspecially replace voice files that you dont use with mail ones if you are using the new english voice that i have sent you

Thanks, never thought of that, I'll have a look tomorrow.

Will do.

No Not yet, I was seeing how stable the V31 was, I'll have a look at this tomorrow, thanks for the input mate.

I have been running V31 since Sunday, and I have had no reboots. I can not tell any difference from the prior version (4-1/91) though.

Did you mod yours?

No, my version is original.

I've reduced the size of the navboot file, and touch wood that seems to have fixed the problem, the navboot file (v31) is now smaller than the navboot in v29, and all seems well.

All I did was black out the huge mini splash screen and this was enough, but i also did the 3D pointers that are not used to blanks as well.

I'll run this and see what happens.

Thanks E5M1R and others for the replies.

Hi E5MR1

Did you manage to change the nav voice over to Swedish? I have the Swedish voicefile but cant get it to work. Do you wanna give it a try?


//Tobmag

Yes, i have mine runing swedish text and voice (V29 did not get into 31 yet)
Voice is a simple swap and rename of swedish voice to gb_f file

Hi

I did as well but couldnt get the nav to accept the voicefile?
Did you have to change the voice file version to get it to work?

//tobmag

Wha tdo you mean with nav wont accept voicefile ?
No sound at all after update
Enlglish is stil there no changes
CD with new moded software wont load

No I didnt get the nav to accept the software update and all went black untill I reloaded an unmodded disc.


//Tobmag

It does not sound like it is a voice problem but something else, maybe the cd brand that you used for mod CD.
You do know that you can only upgrade, or downgrade software, so if you have v29, you would have to install v31 or v28, for the nav to accept the soft.

Just play it simple. do one thing at the time, you might wanna just ad the voice and still have english text first to se if it works and then take it further from there

Good Luck

I did that as well (only changed voice file) but still no luck Im also shanging software version so it does start reprogram the nav unit but stops telling me that the voice files are not valid.
So my question was ; did you only rename the Swedish voice file and then replaced the english? Or did you change the voice file verison as well?
I might have a non valid voice file but the file ending as the same and coming from a origional VDO disc.


//Tobmag

I only changed name of file to gb_f
Try to open your file with navspeak and se if it is comatible

Hi

Yes it is working OK in navspeak.

//Tobmag

This is how mine looks like when i go to advanced mode in navspeak.
It is important that it is for modern mk3 and mk4 systems
Attachment 23348

Mine is looking more or less the same. I got the voice file from a VDO disc; VDO.MO5595SR

Got it working now when I changed the eng voice file. By some reason it doesnt work when changing the German???


//Tobmag

Well i have made changes to German and French file as well, (just to make them smaller)