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ashrafkh 02-24-2009 03:31 AM

New prject for TV and need help
 
Hello Experts :thumbup:

just bought this item from eBay..i think its a good deal ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300296055292
the project is to enable TV and connect a backup camera...
the question is:
if i have a wide screen with navigation system MK4 what parts do i need to order for the TV to work and the camera to be connected - still looking for the best cam type- here am talking about the wiring harness and the antinnas...etc and the connection diagram or steps if possible....

i know i know that littel search can help.... but i need to make sure from the part numbers to complete the KIT simple request from experts...:rolleyes:

francoE38 02-24-2009 09:48 AM

try this navtool or similar items it allows you to hook up a rear view camera and used the front monitor as well...

see it here
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/489176

trapdoor 02-24-2009 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by francoE38
try this navtool or similar items it allows you to hook up a rear view camera and used the front monitor as well...

see it here
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/489176

He already has the OEM Video module :thumbup:

Try these....
http://www.bmwmotorsports.org/pdf/BM...stallation.pdf (this is for the E46 though, but gives you wiring info)
http://www.xoutpost.com/38007-post4.html (backup camera info)

Also

www.realoem.com will give you part numbers

As you already have NAV then it should be easy(ish)

francoE38 02-24-2009 03:17 PM

you are right but you can still used that module for the rear camera

Roy in GA 02-25-2009 02:14 AM

It's a good analog P/N. It won't work for digital though. Is Saudi going to digital? You will need the antenna amp/amps and leads and the main lead between the nav and TV module. The camera leads can be tied into the VM plug. The camera addition has also been discussed on bimmerboard.com. Look for posts by Brian. Ask your Dealer to give you the Parts list for retrofit TV kit P/N 65 50 0 153 184. It will give you the complete list of parts and numbers you will need. Also ask him to print out the installation instructions for that kit.

ashrafkh 02-25-2009 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy in GA
It's a good analog P/N. It won't work for digital though. Is Saudi going to digital? You will need the antenna amp/amps and leads and the main lead between the nav and TV module. The camera leads can be tied into the VM plug. The camera addition has also been discussed on bimmerboard.com. Look for posts by Brian. Ask your Dealer to give you the Parts list for retrofit TV kit P/N 65 50 0 153 184. It will give you the complete list of parts and numbers you will need. Also ask him to print out the installation instructions for that kit.

i dont think they will go for digital or even the whole middle east :rolleyes: but i liked the option... maybe one day we will have digital channels u never know :p: on the other hand i mainly need this modul for the backup camera so i might not go with the installation for the TV but only the cam..so any suggestions what i will need to make it work? is this what i need? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/back-...fAudioQ5fVideo
and would the night vision work?

ashrafkh 03-01-2009 07:56 AM

ok, now i found aftermarket cable for the reverse camera
AUXILIARY INPUT/OUTPUT LEAD FOR BMW/RANGE ROVER/ROVER75 - eBay (item 300297284035 end time Mar-30-09 13:37:07 PDT)
but need to find a camera that will fit into my X like this
BMW E60/E90/E70/E71er Car Parking System Camera Newest - eBay (item 170289736740 end time Mar-26-09 02:26:44 PDT)

any idea?

ashrafkh 03-12-2009 05:39 PM

Hello again,

i have finished from assembling the TV modul with the Camera adapter, connected to the navigation unit...still need to find out how to mount the antinnas... but the thing i noticed is that, before i do this installation the moment i open the door, the BMW logo screen starts immediately , now it takes time... any advice how to correct that or whats wrong i made?

cheers

ashrafkh 04-06-2009 06:35 AM

aftermarket camera install
 
ok, forget about the delay, bcoz after opening closing the door several times the splash screen apears immediately, seems the system needed time to be configured on he bus as a new component...
now i bough backup camera and would like to install it, but found that in most installations they use a relay to connect the camera into and not directly to the reverse light? :dunno:
can someone advice if thats a must or optional Plz?

thanks a million :thumbup:

KiwiJochen 04-06-2009 12:33 PM

Relay is a must, because the TV tuner uses a input that is connected to ground to activate the reverse cam.
So the relay performs the function of activating the RevCam input.

ashrafkh 04-07-2009 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
Relay is a must, because the TV tuner uses a input that is connected to ground to activate the reverse cam.
So the relay performs the function of activating the RevCam input.

ya i noticed the same from other threads but the seller i bought the RCA cable from said that i need only to connect into PIN 17 on the blue connector to get the ground.. so since PIN 17 provides ground why would i need a relay unless its a power stablity issue :dunno:

KiwiJochen 04-07-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ashrafkh
ya i noticed the same from other threads but the seller i bought the RCA cable from said that i need only to connect into PIN 17 on the blue connector to get the ground.. so since PIN 17 provides ground why would i need a relay unless its a power stablity issue

To activate ReverseCam, pin17 needs to be connected to ground.

You can connect it to ground using various methods such as a manual switch.

If you want the reverse camera to come on automatically when selecting reverse gear, you have to switch the pin to ground through some circuit in the car.

The simplest and most convenient circuit to use is the reverse lamps. However, these have 12V when on, ie: they do not switch to ground.

How to change a 12V-when-on to a ground-when-on switching signal?

You could use a circuit built with opto-couplers, transistors, FETs, even glowing valves if you want.

But the easiest, simplest method is a relay.

ashrafkh 04-07-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
To activate ReverseCam, pin17 needs to be connected to ground.

You can connect it to ground using various methods such as a manual switch.

If you want the reverse camera to come on automatically when selecting reverse gear, you have to switch the pin to ground through some circuit in the car.

The simplest and most convenient circuit to use is the reverse lamps. However, these have 12V when on, ie: they do not switch to ground.

How to change a 12V-when-on to a ground-when-on switching signal?

You could use a circuit built with opto-couplers, transistors, FETs, even glowing valves if you want.

But the easiest, simplest method is a relay.

MAN!!!!!!! you are great adviser :thumbup: do you have the diagram ?

ashrafkh 04-07-2009 04:38 PM

this thread says that i have to use 2 relays for aftermarket cams! do you agree?
http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...era-issue.html

KiwiJochen 04-07-2009 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashrafkh
this thread says that i have to use 2 relays for aftermarket cams! do you agree?
http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...era-issue.html

You can power the camera permenently, or only when in reverse - up to you.

ashrafkh 04-08-2009 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
You can power the camera permenently, or only when in reverse - up to you.

yes yes i know that, but am consulting you about the fact that using one relay will case noise so its recommemnded to use 2 relays :stickpoke

trapdoor 04-08-2009 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ashrafkh
yes yes i know that, but am consulting you about the fact that using one relay will case noise so its recommemnded to use 2 relays :stickpoke

The problem with 'supply noise' on the camera supply input COULD cause the issues that are described. It would very much depend on the camera module, how well it's made etc etc... the idea of the 2nd relay is that it will provide a clean switched +ve supply to the camera that doesn't also have the reversing light bulbs/LEDs on the same circuit.

It could be done with a single relay that has two sets of changeover/switching contacts so the coil is energised from the reversing light cct, one set of contacts is used to ground pin 17, the other set of contacts is used to switch 12v to the camera supply.

Personally, I'd go for a single relay with the two sets of contacts if you can source one.

Roy in GA 04-08-2009 11:54 PM

Most only use the single relay.

ashrafkh 04-20-2009 04:56 AM

Does this help
 
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hi,

i bout the following from EAS do you think that these what i need to integrae my aftermarket cam?
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ashrafkh 04-24-2009 10:36 AM

where are the experts
 
where did everybody go!! i need your help before i place this relay and distroy my X if notcompliant :dunno:

KiwiJochen 04-24-2009 12:34 PM

It's a relay, it's fine.


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