POI Voice warning on/off in MK4
 

I'm in the process of adding Red light/speedcam poi's to my map DVD and updating the OS as per the POISON thread and after searching around have noticed where some people have edited one of the settings in the Nav menu (language?) to act as an ON/OFF toggle for the voice alert when approaching a speedcam POI. Could someone please explain exactly how to set this function up?

I have patched my navboot and updated the voice files to alert as per the POISON thread and have also renamed usa_f.csf to gb_f.csf and vice versa so as to have the British female spoken voice but not change the USA text, etc.

Also, when editing text strings in navtweak, is it necessary to make any other changes elsewhere for the changes to be useable? ie, changing accept screen text or menu descriptors, etc.

TIA!

Having the on/off, is not as easy as it sounds.

You need to do several thing for it to "work" properly.

Use navtweak.

Menu text.

1: export the text language file for 1st language (rename it to the 2nd language filename).
2: edit the 2nd language file as the 1st (remember to keep the top 2 lines of the original file in place).
3: mod the text language file "language" for the on/off text, in both 1st and 2nd.
4: change the language string to to "poi alert" (or similar), in both 1st and 2nd).
5: import both 1st and 2nd files.
6: change the first language id (USA,GB,D,F, whatever) to "on".
7: change the second language id (USA,GB,D,F, whatever) to "off".
8: replace the 3rd language option with a blank.

Voice files, for alert.

9: copy the 1st voice file to the 2nd voice files name.
10: change the 1st voice file so that it has the alert.

11: create a new sounds dir (like POISon says) 0507 and copy all the files from 0506 to them including your modded 1st and 2nd voice files.
12: edit (or use) the modded files so that the new sound dir is used.

Map disc Mods.
13: mod the 2nd language files .LSC file in the map disc so that the "off" option has the same mods that your "on" option does. (if you have GB and USA then it will use the same ENG on the map disc).

Example:
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HTH

Having the on/off, is not as easy as it sounds.

You need to do several thing for it to "work" properly.

Use navtweak.

Menu text.
My language files are: 1. USA 2. E 3. F
1: export the text language file for 1st language (rename it to the 2nd language filename).
Export Lng_American and rename Lng_English

2: edit the 2nd language file as the 1st (remember to keep the top 2 lines of the original file in place).
Not sure what you mean here.. edit the renamed file from step 1 or edit the Lng_English file in Navboot?

3: mod the text language file "language" for the on/off text, in both 1st and 2nd.
Is this the "Language" string for each in Navtweak? ie, for Lng_american, it's string 1/347 or where do I find this file?/

4: change the language string to to "poi alert" (or similar), in both 1st and 2nd).
I assume this would be what I described in #3?

5: import both 1st and 2nd files.
import = select Lng_American and replace with modded 1st language file; select Lng_English and replace with modded 2nd lang file (Lng_American renamed/modded to Lng_English?

6: change the first language id (USA,GB,D,F, whatever) to "on".
where is this?
7: change the second language id (USA,GB,D,F, whatever) to "off".
where?
8: replace the 3rd language option with a blank.
where?

Map disc Mods.
13: mod the 2nd language files .LSC file in the map disc so that the "off" option has the same mods that your "on" option does. (if you have GB and USA then it will use the same ENG on the map disc).
So in this case, no mods of .lsc file are needed here correct?


Thanks for your help! It's great having someone with your knowledge and attention to detail around the boards! :thumbup:

OK, USA=1st and E = 2nd,

No, in your case, do all the mods to lan_american, then export and rename to Lan_Spanish (E),


have a look at the top 2 lines of the lan_american.txt file it should have,

000/0000 "USA"
000/0001 "US Eng."

the spanish one will have

000/0000 "E"
000/0001 "español"

So, make sure that you change the top 2 lines of the modded USA txt (now renamed lan_spanish.txt) file from

000/0000 "USA"
000/0001 "US Eng."

to

000/0000 "E"
000/0001 "español"

That way the system thinks that the Spanish files is loaded.

Correct.

Yes, string 001/0347 "POI Warning"

Your 2nd lang is spanish so use that.

001/0350 "On"

001/0352 "Off"

[QUOTE]8: replace the 3rd language option with a blank.
where?[QUOTE]
001/0349 "Off"

Only if you have USA and GB as your 1st and 2nd, you have USA and ESP, so you need to mod you map disc too.

You're welcome, and welcome to the forums.

Ok I've modded the Lng_American text file and exported and saved it as Lng_Espagnol but when I try to import back into navboot to replace the original Lng_Espagnol, Navtweak is still recognizing it as the Lng_Amer file and wont allow. How do I change the file description to be Lng_Espagnol? I've tried changing in notepad2 but it generates CRC error. Pls help

Use the export from the "string" tab, not the save from the modules tab. (use navtweak2.7)

But anyway if you choose Warning-OFF the music will become softer for a couple of seconds when you approach the places of Cameras.

Yes, but it will depend on the nav to radio/tap/cd/ipod mix.

Is it possible to modify this radio/tap/cd/ipod mix?

Yes, use the "nav volume" in the set menu and turn the bar up to max, this will keep the radio/ipod/tape/cd at the same volume (while the alert kicks in = no change in overall volume), all the way the other end will mute the radio/ipod/tape/cd.

Great! Thank you for advice.

because I was using Navtweak 2.6, I actually had to open the Lng_American file in a hex editor to make the change to the file description to Lng_Espagnol and then use CRC24 to edit the checksum so that I could reimport it into the Navboot as Lng_Espagnol without navboot complaining. I also edited the espanol map files to the american and everything is working great. I love this site!!!

Glad its all working :)

Day/nigth menu
 

How can i have this menu?

You need to do several things to get this to work,

0: make a dir in the voices dir on the OS disc image anad copy all the languages over into it (eg OEm = 0506, make 0507)
1: add the alert to the 1st language (as per poison hack)
2: copy then rename the 1st lang to the 2nd lang file name
3: add the text in the 1st text lang
4: copy the 1st lang text to the 2nd lang text,
5: edit the text for the 1st and 2nd lang for the day/night text
6: force a language update by hex editing the correct files.
7: force an update by changeing the version number.

Job done.

All the info is in the POIson thread.

Thanks ccfj1 - I've been lurking for a while now, and have used your instructions to make several changes to my mk4 nav. I have run into a slight issue though after adding the camera alert on/off function. I copied and renamed the language files as suggested, and when turning the POI alert off, the menu's and voice all remain in English, however the TMC messages and a couple of other items (such as the message to activate bluetooth when I go into the Telephone option without having a phone with me) appear in French.

It's not a major issue, just more a little niggle that I'd like to fix if at all possible. I guess I must have missed something when copying the language files, but can't seem to find what. Would you have any ideas?

Thanks again for all your help so far, your instructions on various threads have helped me immensely.

Welcome to the forum.

The on/off option is a hack to the OS, and has limitations (that you have found) the default for the alert is "on", if in "off" mode the TV, Phone and TMC are all in french (if thats your 2nd language), this is because it they have there own language text imbedded in the module, and these can't be modded.

The only real way around this is to recode your mk4 (navcoder), simply select USA (F) as the 2nd language and all the problems go away.

Glad I could help.

Thanks for the speedy response, I'll have a look into navcoder - cheers