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NBTBRV8 06-08-2009 04:48 AM

Resler Interface
 
Guys,

I recently bought an Resler interface which I haven't recevied yet and am a little unsure of how to wire it up. I am planning at connecting it to the CD changer plug, does this plug go straight on to the Resler interface or do I need to make up some sort of bridge?

If I have to make up some sort of bridge it might be easiest to buy the correct BMW plugs, probably off this page:
RealOEM.com BMW E46 M3 Plug terminal ELO not waterproof

So how do you guys connect it up and have you got any photos you can post? Also I have gone for a USB version, what type of USB cable do I need, an A>B?

Thanks.

ccfj1 06-08-2009 05:19 AM

It connects directly to the cd changer plug, without a problem, I made up a small t piece lead so that I could have a connection without having to remove the cd changer every time.

Cost was about £6 - £7 or so for the bits and about 1/2 an hour to make up and install.

NBTBRV8 06-08-2009 06:02 AM

Isn't the CD changer plug a 3 pin, and the resler a 4 pin, 12V, Earth, Ibus, NTSC switch?

I presume the CD changer plug just contains the 3 pins, 12V, earth and Ibus?

ccfj1 06-08-2009 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NBTBRV8 (Post 628582)
Isn't the CD changer plug a 3 pin, and the resler a 4 pin, 12V, Earth, Ibus, NTSC switch?

Yes, just ignore the NTSC pin, the cd changer plug just fits straight on.

Quote:

I presume the CD changer plug just contains the 3 pins, 12V, earth and Ibus?
Yeap, that's it. (+12v ign, ibus and GND), I think

NBTBRV8 06-08-2009 06:26 AM

Thanks. I've got a reversing camera, but can't see the point in changing from NTSC, so I'll just leave that disconnected.

ccfj1 06-08-2009 06:58 AM

To make a t piece up I used these.

1) 61.13.8.377.072 - Male Plug x2 - same as CD I-bus plug. = £0.68
2) 61.13.0.006.663 - Female termination x6 = £0.90

3) 61.13.6.931.929 - Female plug x1 = £0.98
4) 61.13.0.006.664 - Male termination x3 = £0.94

like so;
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...6022008049.jpg

vince59it 09-22-2009 05:09 AM

Hallo everybody,

I go straight with the question...
AFAIK there is the possibility to do by yourself an IBUS scan, BTW this device only works with serial port.
If I want an USB device I must go to the RESLER interface.
Is this correct or there is any onther solution to make your own USB IBUS scan device?

Thanks a lot.

KiwiJochen 09-22-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince59it (Post 662354)
Hallo everybody,

I go straight with the question...
AFAIK there is the possibility to do by yourself an IBUS scan, BTW this device only works with serial port.
If I want an USB device I must go to the RESLER interface.
Is this correct or there is any onther solution to make your own USB IBUS scan device?

Thanks a lot.

If you want you can make your own serial interface

Circuit diagram is included with NavCoder
NavCoder Website

Stubie 09-22-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 628595)
To make a t piece up I used these.

1) 61.13.8.377.072 - Male Plug x2 - same as CD I-bus plug. = £0.68
2) 61.13.0.006.663 - Female termination x6 = £0.90

3) 61.13.6.931.929 - Female plug x1 = £0.98
4) 61.13.0.006.664 - Male termination x3 = £0.94

like so;
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...6022008049.jpg

ccfj1 can i ask where you got the plugs from as I need to make up a lead like this for an IPOD fit (intravee)

Stubs

Roy in GA 09-22-2009 11:16 PM

Standard BMW P/Ns. get them at the dealer.

vince59it 09-23-2009 03:28 PM

time for sailing is almost gone so my Laser Fun and Laser St are in the backyard..so time toplay with hardware :thumbup:
Decision made to build a Resler Raiden ..but one question. Why the Raide has four pin and the Rolf Resler just three?? What is the NTCS pin for? :dunno:

vince59it 09-23-2009 04:09 PM

Point cleared. No need answer anymore Thx:thumbup:

ccfj1 09-25-2009 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stubie (Post 662532)
ccfj1 can i ask where you got the plugs from as I need to make up a lead like this for an IPOD fit (intravee)

Stubs

BMW Dealer parts department, give them the part numbers and they will get some in for you.

vince59it 09-28-2009 10:21 AM

Hi everybody... has someone tried the resler raiden (simple) ? any feedback??I just realized mine and I'm going to play with it next weekend.I am willing to use it with my laptop with an USB/COM adapter.Thanks for any feedback/help...

vince59it 09-29-2009 10:24 AM

uhmmm...no answer..what is going on???
Well another tech question...what is the best software to use with the raiden resler?
Is navcoder the only chance to monitor ibus???
Thank You

KiwiJochen 09-29-2009 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince59it (Post 664660)
uhmmm...no answer..what is going on???
Well another tech question...what is the best software to use with the raiden resler?
Is navcoder the only chance to monitor ibus???
Thank You

What do you mean by "Raiden Resler"?
Rolf Resler makes 2 types of ibus interface (serial COM PORT and USB)

Both interfaces work with any ibus software

There are a few ibus programmes to choose from:
NavCoder
Ibus Monitor (I think)
Car PC software (various)
etc

the best software will depend on what you want to do:

analyse and understand the ibus, fault find and diagnose faulty ibus devices : NavCoder does that well

Program devices: NavCoder also does that well (focusses on Navigation but also does other things)

vince59it 09-29-2009 01:01 PM

>[QUOTE=KiwiJochen;664675]What do you mean by "Raiden Resler"?
>Rolf Resler makes 2 types of ibus interface (serial COM PORT and USB)

I mean the simple interface (the one with the three transistor 2N2222 and not the one with the ICs) and not the one made by Resler.

>There are a few ibus programmes to choose from:
>NavCoder
>Ibus Monitor (I think)
>Car PC software (various)

Thanks I will check it out.

zeronoo 09-29-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince59it (Post 664725)
I mean the simple interface (the one with the three transistor 2N2222 and not the one with the ICs) and not the one made by Resler.
Thanks I will check it out.

...you can buy a cheap vag kkl usb interface (found 1.99 to 3.99 eur) and use k signal from it (pin 7 on OBD) to ibus line for every software you want (that work with ibus signal) :)

vince59it 09-30-2009 11:02 AM

Thank you. I will check as someone told me that there is no Ibus signal on the OBD. So I am not sure about it.
Do you actually mean that I can connect kkl usb interface directly to PC and get the ibus signal?

Muzumesch - thank you

zeronoo 09-30-2009 11:37 AM

i use a kkl usb interface with navcoder...work like a charm :), successfully changed language and vin to navi, video in motion...etc, btw, this not means you simply connect a vag kkl interface to bmw obd connector and use with navcoder...i've made myself an adaptor to connect into obd plug and use +12v, ground and k line on cd connector from the trunk with navcoder

vince59it 09-30-2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeronoo (Post 665097)
i use a kkl usb interface with navcoder...work like a charm :), successfully changed language and vin to navi, video in motion...etc, btw, this not means you simply connect a vag kkl interface to bmw obd connector and use with navcoder...i've made myself an adaptor to connect into obd plug and use +12v, ground and k line on cd connector from the trunk with navcoder

Well this sounds new to me.
No problem to get the kkl usb interface. Can you please provide details about the adaptor? Thanks :thumbup:

vince59it 10-02-2009 06:00 AM

Thanks to Zeronoo for the information. By the way it seems to me that there is no difference between Ibus and Kbus ???? :rolleyes: Am I correct or not. I searched the web and realized that the "resler interface" had already been invented beeing nothing else that a Kbus to RS 232 adapter...but the german frined was clever enough.
Said so, the signla on pin 7 of ODB connector is ok... ;)

KiwiJochen 10-02-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince59it (Post 665710)
Thanks to Zeronoo for the information. By the way it seems to me that there is no difference between Ibus and Kbus ???? :rolleyes: Am I correct or not. I searched the web and realized that the "resler interface" had already been invented beeing nothing else that a Kbus to RS 232 adapter...but the german frined was clever enough.
Said so, the signla on pin 7 of ODB connector is ok... ;)


ibus and kbus are the same

But while the kline on the OBDII is the same electrically as the kbus, it has a different data protokol

vince59it 10-05-2009 03:19 AM

[QUOTE=KiwiJochen;665862]ibus and kbus are the same
Does this means that the hardware interface (Resler Interface) should work with both? I mean, if I connect the Resler Interface to the OBD connector - k pin - will it work or not?In the case the HW is fine do I need diffrente software??I am a little bit confused...thanks for any clarification

Roy in GA 10-06-2009 12:27 AM

Why do you not want to hook it to the I bus line? It's easy to locate one. You could locate it on the WDS and follow it to where you wanted to make the connection.

vince59it 10-06-2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy in GA (Post 666851)
Why do you not want to hook it to the I bus line? It's easy to locate one. You could locate it on the WDS and follow it to where you wanted to make the connection.

Actually this is what I intended to do. I am just a little bit confused as I do not understand the difference - if there is any - between connecting the interface to the OBD or to the Ibus cable. In other words, I wonder if there is a differente result/output if I connect the interface (raiden-resler) to the Ibus or to the OBD. can I do the same cheks/operations in both ways?
Thanks for the clarifications.

KiwiJochen 10-06-2009 11:05 AM

The electrical interface (physical connection) is the same

The data protocol (data format, data speed) is totally different


kbus defines electrical interface, it does not define data protocol

So yes, the Resler interface MAYBE can be used on the ODBII connector, if it can align to the same data baud rate. I don't think OBDII is 9600 baud....

And then you need some software to read the OBDII data...

vince59it 10-06-2009 01:14 PM

KJ thanks a lot, much clear to me now....
Last question: so, which hardware do I need to "simply" connect the OBD to the PC?...a "regular" OBD/RS232-USB interface will do the job with the right software?
Any suggestion about the hardware..there are so many around, I guess a vag kkl as on ebay should work fine :rolleyes:
Thx again.


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