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sna77 02-07-2010 06:25 PM

X3 OEM Navigation Retrofit - Success!
 
After doing an OEM MKIV Navigation system retrofit in my wife's e46 a few months ago, I decided that I really wanted to do the same in my X3. I love the integration of phone, navigation, Sirius, reverse camera and iPod via the Intravee II.

Anyhow, I ordered up all the parts for the X3 retrofit from an eBay seller in Germany and had everything shipped to me here last month. I got around to tackling it finally with my friend Andy, who is a BMW Master Tech...

Link to all the part #'s on Realoem.com. The wiring harness is part # 61120390114 if you are piecing the parts together yourself...
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...65&fg=95&hl=40

First, here are the OEM install instructions:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3_oem_nav_retrofit.pdf

All the parts. You don't need part "O" for USA cars (all are pre-wired for CD changer)
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/partslist.JPG


The wiring harness layout:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/parts2.JPG


Basic map of where things will go in car:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/parts3.JPG


Start with the wiring harness in the trunk. These 2 cables will connect to the back of the MKIV. The GPS antenna is here also. The instructions call to route the GPS antenna to be behind the instrument cluster. Not sure if you could tap into the shark fin.
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/01.JPG

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/04.JPG


Pop the rear seat off and the bolster behind the driver's side back seat. Everything just pops right off.
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/02.JPG

Route the wiring harness down the bolster and tuck it along the existing cables. Secure it with zip ties.
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/03.JPG


We then removed the driver's front seat and the center console. The wiring harness runs along the floor to the front of the front seat, across the floor and up through the center console to behind the radio.
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/05.JPG


Remove the sunglass tray, the AC vents and the old radio. Everything essentially pops out and is secured in by Philips head screws.

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/06.JPG

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/07.JPG


Removing the armrest provides better access to the carpet, which is very stiff:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/08.JPG

The harness routed up through the console area:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/09.JPG

The wires plug into the existing connectors for the old radio:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/10.JPG

You need to remove the instrument cluster. You'll tap into the vehicle's speed sensor coming out of the wires behind the cluster.
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/11.JPG

While we had the cluster out, we removed the seat belt speaker chime. It just pops right off with gentle twisting:

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/14.JPG

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/15.JPG

Connections made to the fuse box:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/13.JPG

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/16.JPG


Putting everything back together:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/17.JPG

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/18.JPG

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/19.JPG

In the trunk, I attached the bracket for the MKIV drive, Turns out I need to order a different bracket that supports Sirius too. I just stuffed everything in there for now. I also connected my Intravee II and iPod now:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/20.JPG

The part # of the bracket I need to order, that hold the MKIV drive and the Sirius unit: 65503411774
RealOEM.com BMW E83 X3 3.0i Bracket, satellite- radio

The last surprise was that the carpet piece for cars without Nav is different than the carpet piece for cars with Nav. My existing trim piece was too deep. I looked it up, and sure enough, I need this $100ish part: 51473412225
RealOEM.com BMW E83 X3 3.0i LATERAL TRUNK FLOOR TRIM PANEL

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/21.JPG

sna77 02-07-2010 06:25 PM

Better picture of everything tossed in here for now... The new bracket / carpet cover should be in later this week. I'll clean everything up more then:

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/38.JPG

So my radio from Europe came coded for Europe. I didn't realize until I discovered that the AM button took me to something called "MWA"
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/22.JPG

OEM instructions to enter Radio Service Mode to change region:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/radio_service_mode.pdf

The basics:
E83 (X3) with Navigation system
E85 (Z4) with Navigation system

CID radio
1. Turn the radio on.
2. Press the 'SEL' button immediately and hold for at least 8 seconds.
3. Scroll through functions using the '+' and '-' keys or the station search buttons "< >".
4. Switch off the radio to exit the service mode.


The instructions don't mention that you need to toggle selections using buttons 1 & 2. You can Select "USA" from here. Turn car off, then back on, and voila, AM / FM radio works.

I even have HD radio... Whatever the F that is:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/29.JPG

The CD player / radio in the X3 & Z4 with Nav. I'd love to find out more info on it (part # etc), but the eBay seller was nice enough to remove the stickers and somehow zeroed out the serial number from radio service mode. Blah.
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/26.JPG

This CD player plays MP3s and reads ID3 tags! This same MP3 CD played in my stock 2006 X3 radio, but would not show ID3 tags. The browsing interface is actually pretty good too!
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/27.JPG

OEM Sirius still works of course:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/28.JPG

And my Intravee II slaved off the OEM Sirius module:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/30.JPG

Main menus work:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/31.JPG

Bluetooth paired fine with my TCU:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/32.JPG

...including the Emergency function of reading your coordinates:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/33.JPG

GPS antenna was tracking fine. Took about 30 minutes to download the Almanac:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/34.JPG

Connectivity to vehicle speed sensor worked:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/35.JPG

Split screen view on Nav:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/25.JPG

And full screen version:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3oemnav/39.JPG

sna77 02-07-2010 06:25 PM

Oh, I forgot to mention... My MKIV drive was also in Euro mode. It came with a Euro 2004 DVD in it. I actually tested it a few weeks ago simply swapping it into my wife's e46 which uses the same drive.

Drive thought I was in Rome. LOL
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/mkiv-italy/02.JPG

2004.1 High Euro DVD. haa
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/mkiv-italy/04.JPG

System was also not in English, so I decided to update the OS before fixing the language problem. Put my v.32 OS Update CD in and let it run (part # 01590141891). Looks like Italian, Dutch and UK English were installed:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/mkiv-italy/06.JPG

Still in Italian after the v. 32 update:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/mkiv-italy/07.JPG

but its up to 4-1/00 at least:
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/mkiv-italy/08.JPG

Since I was at home, and didn't have my BMW tech / Autologic, I coded to USA mode using NavCoder, my Reslers serial port-ibus interface, and ancient Win XP laptop to fix the issue:

NavCoder: NavCoder Website
Reslers: IBUS Interface for BMW cars

Programmed a few languages I can actually understand... ;)
http://www.bigpatsfans.com/mkiv-italy/11.JPG

Even though the Nav unit was in USA mode, the car thought it was in Europe mode... Ways to tell this:

- No "Accept" screen at system boot up
- yards instead of feet
- No "Emergency" option which shows up on the main screen. A nice feature since it shows your GPS coordinates and exact location.

In order to get the car into USA mode, you need to open NavCoder, click "Read System Parameters" (you get a warning to only do this on your own car).

Change the Region to US, and click "Code Nav"
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachm...1&d=1262134003

sna77 02-07-2010 06:26 PM

Some other programming notes... The OEM instructions said to code the car with "Navigation Retrofit." That option didn't exist with the Autologic so... We just simply added SA609 to the car's list of installed options. After that, we just re-flashed all the relevant modules, and voila! Car back in USA mode, with Navigation option...

ccfj1 02-08-2010 04:38 AM

Very good Steve, as usual.

That's a great install and README mate, top marks.

sna77 02-17-2010 03:44 PM

Just got the car back from Sound-in-Motion in Allston, Ma (Sound In Motion - Boston's Best Mobile Entertainment Design, Installation & Custom Fabrication Shops). I had them wire up the Nav-TV module (RGB emulator) and an Eclipse BEC-106 reverse camera.

When the car goes into reverse, the backup camera automatically switches on... turns off when the car shifts out of reverse...

Eclipse reverse camera:
Amazon.com: Eclipse BEC106 Back-Eye Vehicle Rear-View Camera: Electronics

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/xirev/xirev6.jpg

NavTV BMWV+ switching module:
NAV-TV Corporation: BMWV+ Video and Backup Camera Aux Input for BMW

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/xirev/xirev5.jpg


And some pics of everything installed...

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3_6.JPG

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3_9.JPG

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3rev1.jpg

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3rev2.jpg

neiloakley 02-18-2010 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sna77 (Post 713942)

Interested to know why you needed this? I managed to install my reverse camera without any trick boxes, and it switches on/off automatically as i select reverse.

sna77 02-18-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neiloakley (Post 714331)
Interested to know why you needed this? I managed to install my reverse camera without any trick boxes, and it switches on/off automatically as i select reverse.


You have a TV tuner, correct? USA doesn't get the TV tuner, so you need a video module to intercept the signal...

neiloakley 02-18-2010 09:39 AM

Indeed i do - thanks for clearing that up!

sna77 02-18-2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neiloakley (Post 714336)
Indeed i do - thanks for clearing that up!

I'd actually considered buy an OEM TV module--but a used one costs more than the Nav-TV module, and the TV tuner doesn't work in the US with our new digital signal, so it didn't make a lot of sense since I'm not interested in watching video on the Nav screen...

A new Nav-TV module, with warranty is about $250 USD, and works flawlessly for this, so I figured why not... You can actually buy an interface for another $100 from Nav-TV that would allow video over the Nav screen if you really wanted it...


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