Is the Next Step a Draft? - Page 2

Parker · #11 08-24-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lambeau

Everyone right out of high school or all 18 year-olds should serve a mandatory 2 years in the military. There would be less violent crime, fewer gangs, less drug use and more overall respect from young people in this country. It would teach them responsibility for their actions and how to respect authority. They would know integrity, core values and "service before self". The only exception would be for those who attend college right after high school and maintain a respectable GPA. Then, they would be required to serve 2 years as an officer in the military. Do you realize how happy prospective employers would be knowing they're getting someone with military experience & responsibility?

in most countries I think that would be a fantastic idea. Unfortunatley in the US it means you might end up in a Iraq-type boondoggle.

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blondboinsd · #12 08-24-2006, 12:47 PM

Still lookin for those weapons of mass destruction..............

bmwx5lover · #13 08-24-2006, 12:53 PM

Hey blondboisd, you could go to MA to get your marriage license. I am very sure you will be able get same sex marriage done there. Last time i heard about it, the news showed a lot of gay couples in front of MA courthouse waiting for their turns to get marriage license. They were cute, hugging, kissing each others. Well, you are moving to Philly so why not give it a try in MA. SF is not issuing same sex marriage license any more right?

rebound · #14 08-24-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bozo5521

Damn...The IRR IS like the last resort..These guys got out, some probably over two years ago (I think the IRR window is up to 3 years) and most dont even maintain a uniform or ID card...This IS the last resort before a draft; however, there are a LOT of IRR's out there...Most dont even know they're in it, since its one of those "small print" items on your discharge orders..These guys probably got letters in the mail like,

Actually it's not. Most people don't realize (and the recruiters sure won't tell), that when you enlist, you sign an EIGHT year contract. Yeah, you may only be active duty for four years, but you're still in the IRR for four after that. If you sign up for six, it's two in the IRR obviously.

It's one of those "buyer beware" deals, because it's in the contract. Most people don't read it, and as I said, the recruiter isn't going to bring it up and spoil a potential "sale."

I also had the "benefit" of being a Camp Lejeune, NC during Desert Storm, the last time they called up the IRR. THAT was a bunch of really happy people! Most of them had dumped all their uniforms, were enrolled in school or had jobs, families, etc. Very touchy...

As for the draft, that'll never happen. First of all, no one in the military wants it. I'm speaking as an 18 year veteran, former drill field and recruiting experienced Marine. The last thing I want is a flood of people that don't want to be here. Blech. I really like the AVF (all-volunteer force). Nothing like working with satisfied customers...

Second of all, no politician really wants their name attached to that Bill. The only ones that have been pushing it have done so strictly for political reasons. The last time the military was getting operating instructions from politicians was called Vietnam, and we all know how well that went.

blondboinsd · #15 08-24-2006, 01:04 PM

No they are not, I never agreed with them issuing those licenses anyways (IN SF) yes you can in MA but it is not recognized anywhere else, who cares about the piece of paper, I want the rights that come with it

rebound · #16 08-24-2006, 01:06 PM

Hey Ryan, you've really got to start using the "quote" function. It's always a pain to figure out who you're responding to!

blondboinsd · #17 08-24-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rebound

Hey Ryan, you've really got to start using the "quote" function. It's always a pain to figure out who you're responding to!

Happy now?

Lambeau · #18 08-24-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Lam shut up, not everyone wants to do that, some people actually want to go to college, my brother is 18 and like my mom always said "If theres a draft, your moving to Canada no questions asked" I'll just tell em i'm gay!

You suck Ryan! You're willing to enjoy and practice the rights of this country but not willing to do anything for them???

They'll make a special unit just for you guys.

rebound · #19 08-24-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Happy now?

Rock on dude!

Lambeau · #20 08-24-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd

No they are not, I never agreed with them issuing those licenses anyways (IN SF) yes you can in MA but it is not recognized anywhere else, who cares about the piece of paper, I want the rights that come with it

you WANT the rights that come with it but you're not willing to serve your country for those rights??? You suck eh!

When you're up in Canada, come down and stop by. I'm not too far away eh!!!

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