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Old 11-20-2006, 06:30 PM
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And in other Philadelphia Eagles news, Andre Waters

Andre Waters, former Eagle, dies at 44.

I met him when I was in grade school.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/16060347.htm

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TAMPA, Fla. - Andre Waters, a defensive back who spent most of his 12 seasons in the NFL with the Philadelphia Eagles, was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound early Monday. He was 44.

His body was found at about 1:30 a.m. at his Tampa home, the medical examiner's office said. He had shot himself in the head. Toxicology reports were ordered and results will be available in four to six weeks, the office said.

Waters, an assistant football coach at Fort Valley State in Georgia, joined the Eagles out of Cheyney State in 1984 and played with them at cornerback and safety through 1993. He was known as one of the NFL's hardest hitters and often was fined for some of his tackles. He spent his last two seasons with the Arizona Cardinals.

"Everybody has been in such shock," Fort Valley State spokeswoman Cindy Gambill said.

Waters was in his first year coaching at the school. Many students, including football players, are not on campus this week because of Thanksgiving.

Football coach Deondri Clark lauded Waters for an "outstanding" college career that enabled him to make the NFL.

Waters, who was born in Belle Glade, also coached at Morgan State, South Florida and Alabama State before coming to Fort Valley State this summer.

Funeral arrangements are incomplete.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:34 PM
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Andre Waters, former Eagles strong safety, dead at age 44. The Raleigh News & Observer reported that he died today from a single gunshot to the head. His sister-in-law said it was suicide.

Mark Bowden covered the Eagles three seasons, from 1990 to 1992, and wrote a chapter about Waters in his book about the team, Bringing The Heat.

I called Bowden this afternoon to find out about the undersized player who worked his way out of The Muck in Pahokee, Fla. to embody the ferocity of the Buddy Ryan-era Birds:

As a football player he always struck me as never being quite as full of himself as most of the guys in the locker room. He was much more a real person. In very practical terms, most players are placed on such a pedestal when they're playing. They view the sportwriters who show up in the locker room as 2-3 levels below fans on their list of priorities -- scorn is mostly what you'd face. When you approached Andre, he would look you in the eye. He was more mature than the other players and very approachable. And just real. A real person.

I always really liked Andre though I thought he was a little crazy. He used to psyche himself up for games. He was extremely superstitious. I thought he'd almost put himself a trance when he played. He had these nicknames for himself when he was a player, He made a conscious effort to turn himself into another person when he was playing - and he was a vicious player. Others viewed him as a dangerous player and a dirty player. I think it was that he was overcompensating for the fact he was smaller and a little less athletic . He made himself into a professional football player by intensity and intelligence and willpower.

In the book, Bowden writes of Waters:

Even as a kid back in Pahokee, his unofficial assignment on defense was to rough up the other team's star player. Playing safety in the pro (for Buddy) gave full license to this approach, since in many formations, Andre's job was just to move to the ball. And Andre would make it his business to get in one good hammer -- late, low, unncessarily high, it didn't matter - sufficient to send a message. The message was You could get hurt out here.

Waters was never drafted and signed with the Eagles as a free agent, Bowden said by phone. This meant he was paid less than players who weren't as good as he was. Bowden said, "it made him angry."

A 2004 story on the Eagles Web site described Waters as a defensive coordinator for St. Augustine's College in Raleigh, N.C. He'd coached as several schools after trying golf. At the time of his death, he was working as an assistant coach at Fort Valley State in Georgia.

The Cheney University grad started at strong safety for the Birds between 1986 and 1993. He recalled for the 2004 story on the Eagles Web site what it was like to play here:

Philadelphia Eagles fans are the best fans in America. They always treated me very special and they still do today. We knew the 'Vet' would be rocking every time we stepped into that stadium.
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Old 11-20-2006, 07:47 PM
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Sad news indeed, first Jerome, then Reggie and know Andre.
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Wow, that's sad.
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