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Old 08-15-2005, 10:18 PM
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I figured I'd poke into this argument -

Really, electricity is NOT a pollution free energy (it can be, but as of today it rarely is). Will we ever be able to get the performance out of an electric car that we get out of our X5s? I personally don't think so - but I could be wrong. I know that Venturi (I think that's what it's called - a custom car builder based in Monaco) makes a $300,000 electric sports car that revs to 14,000 rpm and has some great performance features - but only generates a couple hundred horsepower and about 250 lb/ft of torque. These are about the same specs as our cars, only we didn't pay over $300,000 for our engines. Hydrogen and ethanol seem to be more realistic (cheaper and more accessible as of right now); they keep most, if not all of the same performance characteristics as the wonderful engines we love (ex: 745h). As I understand it, hydrogen engines require few changes in engine design, and would produce many of the same desirable characteristics of gasoline engines. Then there's ethanol, which to me, makes the most sense. The ethanol is synthesized from corn and can be burned in any current engine when the fittings are changed to stainless steel. Not only would this quench our thirst for traditional engine technology and increased fuel efficiency and dramatically reduced emissions, but it would benefit the struggling farming industry here at home. All this is just sitting in front of our nose - in fact, all gasoline sold in Michigan (and most mid-western states I think) contains 15% ethanol instead of the traditional MTBE. My dad actually has a company car that runs on an 85% ethanol/ 15% gasoline fuel mixture. It's here, there's no need to spend billions on development, and it would benefit multiple segments of society. Maybe it just makes too much sense...
Good point. Ethanol is indeed a solution which would enable to take advantage of farming here in the USA or any other country with strong farming industry. I once went on a bus in Europe which burned ethanol. The curious thing was that it smeeled like french fries.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:45 PM
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Seems like Hydrogen may have some potential and hope; Honda, General Motors and BMW have agreed to jointly develop technologies for hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles.
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Yeah the ignition solutions plasma coils are good. I used to run/test them out on my car for them. It makes some difference. Although our M3s do naturally produce a multi-spark ignition too.

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Sorry to hear about the S4's gas mileage....maybe just tell her to take it easy on the gas pedal....
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:25 AM
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- You build a car to be "environmentally friendly." Yet, what's gonna happen when the guy gets into an accident, or is rear-ended. Can you say "acid burn," an/or "environmental cleaning nightmare"?
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Dude, you drive around with about 20 gallons of FUEL in your car and you're complaining about a few extra batteries in the trunk? Come on...
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Old 08-16-2005, 04:31 AM
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Good point. Ethanol is indeed a solution which would enable to take advantage of farming here in the USA or any other country with strong farming industry. I once went on a bus in Europe which burned ethanol. The curious thing was that it smeeled like french fries.
That bus would be the perfect place to put a massive McDonalds ad. Talk about product placement.
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Old 08-16-2005, 08:01 PM
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Dude, you drive around with about 20 gallons of FUEL in your car and you're complaining about a few extra batteries in the trunk? Come on...
Well, it's a little different. battery acid is not only a huge environmental nightmare (especially cleaning it up), but if that stuff gets on you, you are in big trouble. With gas, you just smell bad. Also, unlike what we see in the movies, cars don't explode unless the gas is introduced to some kind or energy or spark.

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aren't there posts missing from this thread? i thought Juan mentioned on here something about driving w/ a full tank of gas was actually safer than only having a half tank and then offering to explain?
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aren't there posts missing from this thread? i thought Juan mentioned on here something about driving w/ a full tank of gas was actually safer than only having a half tank and then offering to explain?
Yes, and I deleted them. The previous post had "caught me at a bad time," and my response was just incredibly snooty. So, I deleted it. Sorry for the confusion, but I thought it'd be better than becoming childish and/or condescending, which I had.

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ah, ok. i thought i was losing my mind. kudos to u.
pardon me for being ignorant, but i'm curious about what u said concerning the full tank vs. 1/2 empty tank....
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ah, ok. i thought i was losing my mind. kudos to u.
pardon me for being ignorant, but i'm curious about what u said concerning the full tank vs. 1/2 empty tank....
Well, generally speaking, a tank that is only half full with gasoline has more oxigen in it, which gasoline needs to ignite. The fuller the tank, the less oxygen IN the tank, and technically, it is in less danger to ingnite.

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