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Old 03-28-2009, 09:38 AM
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2009 CTSV vs 2009 M5 on Motorweek

CTSV won in:

0-60
Track time
1/4 mile
Price
MPG

Go CTS-V

M5 won in:

lack of brake fade though braking distance was nearly identical.


During the test the M5 had a manual, CTSV had an automatic.
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2829b.shtml

I was surprised watching the show that the BMW didn't toast the CTS on the track.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:50 AM
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yea I would think that too everything but the track, and with a automatic no less
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:09 AM
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It was a pretty good review - I think the price and lower tq is what did the M5 in.
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Old 03-28-2009, 11:27 AM
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I'm waiting for the "...but..but..there is a new M5 coming out soon" response
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I would rather have a 535XI
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I'm waiting for the "...but..but..there is a new M5 coming out soon" response
Well...that's the truth. That is typically how it works. One car dominates, like the M5 did, then someone makes a newer model to top it. I would bet the new M5 will top the CTS-V and the cycle will continue. The current M5 is at the end of it's run.

Plus, Roebling Raceway is sort of a slower, tight course where the huge displacement and torque advantage of the V shines.
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:09 PM
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I would rather have a 535XI
Nice but that is a POS compared to either of the two in the comparison
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Well...that's the truth. That is typically how it works. One car dominates, like the M5 did, then someone makes a newer model to top it. I would bet the new M5 will top the CTS-V and the cycle will continue. The current M5 is at the end of it's run.

Plus, Roebling Raceway is sort of a slower, tight course where the huge displacement and torque advantage of the V shines.
Granted. But I wouldn't be surprised if the next addition still doesn't top the CTS-V. It will simply raise the BMW price tag even farther out of comparison to the CTS-V. (considering 62K buys the CTS-V). BMW simply is not fond of torque for whatever reason. That was my biggest complaint with my M3.
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Well...that's the truth. That is typically how it works. One car dominates, like the M5 did, then someone makes a newer model to top it. I would bet the new M5 will top the CTS-V and the cycle will continue. The current M5 is at the end of it's run.

Plus, Roebling Raceway is sort of a slower, tight course where the huge displacement and torque advantage of the V shines.
///M cars are currently overpriced in my opinion. I remember when you could get a E36 for mid-40's. I know that was 10 years ago but come on. The price has damn near doubled. I have been seriously thinking about my next whip being a ///M6. I'm not sure I'll go that route for 2 reasons......price and the 6 body style will change in 2 years....that means the ///M will follow the year after. So my guess is, there is a CTS-V killer on the horizon......Phil
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Kudos for GM. I'm really pulling for them. The new CTS is a great sedan; the Vette is still the best value in sports cars; the new Silverado is kick-ass; and the Volt stands to be a game-changer. Oh, the G8 XP has M5-like performance at half the price.

If they can make it through this recession (and I hope they do), GM will do just fine. They are finally building great cars, and as Americans, we should all pull for them.

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