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Old 07-07-2009, 07:58 PM
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Buy American, Toyota Camry

Makes the big 3 bailout feel like even more of a sham eh.
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A new study from Cars.com sheds light on the absurdity of thinking cars have a "nationality."

When you consider that even a post-bailout GM will expand its use of foreign labor, it shouldn't be that hard to understand how an "American" car isn't really so, just because its maker was founded in Detroit.

And more generally, there seems to be little reason to think that American cars are really more American in any metrics that matter: Namely, labor and parts inputs.

According to the new survey, the most American car in America is the Toyota Camry, containing the highest percentage of American inputs, even surpassing the Ford F-150. Actually, Toyota utterly dominates the top 10 list, with a Honda thrown in for good measure.

Now some might object to this, saying that even though these cars are "made-in-America", the value still flows overseas, but really, even that's not right. Toyota still pays taxes in America. Its stock is traded in the US, and is no doubt owned by individual retail accounts and mutual funds.

If you insist on coming up with some definition of "American" that limits that moniker to the Big Three, we suppose it's this: Only Chrysler, Ford and GM have the political clout to win a bailout if needed. We really can't imagine Toyota or Honda receiving so much political support. Of course, this is a circular definition that still doesn't say much, but it's the best you can do.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:17 PM
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Yeah, but then you own a Toyota.....
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Maybe this is why Toyota's are starting to suck...
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Dam Toyota... i see 07 camry le 4cyl with 100k miles sell for 11,000 at dealer auctions....the resale in nutz...
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Maybe this is why Toyota's are starting to suck...
people who toyotas will keep buying them - resale value and dependable
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dependable? not quite, they have dropped like a rock. My wife's family lives by them and they've become more and more problem prone.

11G's for resale, someone is an idiot paying that for it. My neighbor is a wholesaler...they are not going for 11G in MD.
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dependable? not quite, they have dropped like a rock. My wife's family lives by them and they've become more and more problem prone.

11G's for resale, someone is an idiot paying that for it. My neighbor is a wholesaler...they are not going for 11G in MD.

today 3 s07 LE (4cyl- no leather -hubcaps)old between 10.300 - 10.800 then add 225 auction fee and that puts you at 11,000 or just about....

i hear most tend to go oversea to Africa and Middle East..
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:51 PM
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today 3 s07 LE (4cyl- no leather -hubcaps)old between 10.300 - 10.800 then add 225 auction fee and that puts you at 11,000 or just about....

i hear most tend to go oversea to Africa and Middle East..
dang, they need to shop around
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the exporter control the auction up here and in NY and im sure in MD but you probly havent noticed.
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keep dreaming. Honda is starting to slip too.

America is good at weapons, computer/it related stuff, etc..not cars. Honda and Toyota need to move shit back to Japan, esp development.

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