Interesting. DirectTV had some arrangement with Tivo in the beginning but they moved to their own DVR or licensed tech from Tivo.

Can't believe you can patent a feature like stop or rewind. Almost as bad a copyrighting everday words and then claiming someone is using "your" word.

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I've been reading the debate on the Sat forums, ranging from blather to patent lawyers posting...
hard to figure; it seems it is more than the stop/rewind part of the DVR, as in the whole DVR process or,
the DVR gizmo/electronics that DISH uses.

Fwiw, our old/current Dish DVR has been glitching since we got back to this house, and DISH has been belligerent
in replacing/upgrading it to a 2 show DVR, (non-HD), without considerable expense, an additional iron clad re-up contract, etc.

I was pizzed at them and was about to call Direct, when this news hit the fan...hmmm. Ergen The Genius, CEO of DISH will probably
cave and pay some license fee, but it is of concern to us that have DISH and have only one other choice in Direct.

But, this may force my hand, as DISH may have The Worst customer service, esp for exisitng customers, on the fookin planet, imo...

You mean this:

TiVo vs. Dish: TiVo won appeal - DBSTalk.Com

and the latest:

Tivo vs. Dish: Petition for rehearing en banc granted - DBSTalk.Com

Makes this forum seem rather dull and non-verbal, eh?


I have Dish... not too worried yet. Even considering the VIP922 with the sling capability.

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Yes...that's the forum.
Hundreds of opins, and all the DISH users are holding their collective breath, I think.

I am simply trying to replace our old DVR receiver with a Duo 625 low def unit; the marvelous DISH "customer service" department
wants to sell it to me, then charge monthly fee, and I get to pay for the idiot to come out and plug it in. (They won't let me plug it in. )

I want the sumbitch free, I will pay the monthly crap charge, I don't want to do their "2 yr renewal contract", and I don't want to pay the
idiot Dish "installer" $125 to come up the mtn and plug it in.

I have not yet worn the Dish geniuses down, even by threatening to go to Direct...they act like they are working for the Communist party, circa 1955.

I'm happy with DTV.....prefer their menus, features, etc more than FIOS. FIOS is a different animal but there is no snow/rain fade and or compression issues...

It's kinda crazy how much ~we~ pay for such services. Me wonders when will it become a *limit cap* on how much we pay monthly for such services. I pay DTV around $90 a month and this is with some discount applied on it...

MD - I'm sure you gonna do the math on this, and I'm not sure what's up in your neck of the woods (literally) but here's a TIVO alternative as well if you are looking at a provider that uses CableCards

Moxi, HD DVR, HDTV, Digital Video Recorder, Premium Media Center

I had DISH--now Uverse for over a year. I will never go back to having equipment again.

BTW, if you are DVR junkie, note when comparing if the provider will allow you to *hook up a external hard drive* to the DVR so that you can add additional storage capacity.
FIOS has small hard drives in their DVRS to start and their DVRS won't allow you to hook up a external hard for additional capacity.

At the end of the day, it's going to be both a #s game if not features/GUI usability, etc.

Chef,
We have 2 choices here on the Mtn...Dish or Direct; well actually 3 choices,
if one counts an antenna in the attic for only local stations.

Charter, the cable provider is a mile down the road below us and hasn't
"moved" up the road in the 9 yrs we've been here.

Thus, it is my current DISH or, call Direct and get in line, with wallet open...
it will be interesting. The tolerable side is that most shows we watch are
near completion for the summer season and we don't watch a lot of TV
here at the Mtn house in summer. And, we do catch an occasional show
on Hulu or the network repeats via computer.