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Old 12-14-2005, 08:50 PM
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Pretty damn interesting back & forth from DrDrex and JK, imo.

Kraft's monotype is not really orig or dramatically diff from the several similar articles that I jes'happen to peruse each week, or I suspect, the thousands pounded out in all kinds of publications and/or blogs per week.

My beef with Kraft and most of that kind of diatribe is the utter emptyness of "the fix", other than
-"support our troops", (hell, who doesn't?!)
-"support Dubya" (does it really matter how the hell is acting in the WH?)
-"stay the course and stay in Iraq" (what is the Projected real outcome vis a vis the rest of Western Asia? [A better term, imo, than the Middle East.]

That article, like so many similar, uses a lead in and dramatics and taking points and debate soft balls that are easily done by anyone not stuck in a cave the past few years. The really hard part of the equation and seldom seen proposal(s) is what are some viable outcomes in terms of time, money, LIVES, politics and real benefits for us? And, for The US, for allies, and so forth, in Iraq specifically and, in the struggle with the Islamic zealots, (maybe redundant).

A quasi-parlimentary puppet gov't in Iraq is not going to have a lick of short-medium term affect on the A/I zealots around the fooking world that want Israel off the map and the US Debbils right behind them. Next is Iran with nuclear capabilities of some kind, and on, and on. Oh, and the Saudi gov't is in the catbird seat, oil and money and "association"-wise, imo.

NEway, I'll climb off Speakers' Corner, for the time being.
Pretty damn good thread though...I realize it's politics and most of us couldn't agree completely on the political time of day, but for those of you wondering "what the frig does that have to do with me", you are either naive or not paying attention.

Good jump ball, DRDrex and JK!
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