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![]() Well there is a Benz dealer right near that BMW dealer up there (BMW Autohaus). Anyway I went in there, and decided to give the new ML-Class a shot. They sadly only had an ML350 for a demo. Alas, why not? Even with the ML350, I could probably see if it still rides like the old one. Impression 1 = there is HUGE body roll. Just when I closed the door of the SUV, the whole thing shook. When you make a turn, the front end dips in - kinda scary! Impression 2 = the body feels like it's only connected to the suspension via a spring. The whole body of the SUV shudders when you go over a bump. It's like those Lincoln Town Cars with the air suspension that are used for airport limos. You go over an imperfection, and the damn thing is still bobbing up and down, left, right for the next 10 seconds. Impression 3 = you still can't get a friggin' ski sack on these cars?! Yes, that's true! A ski sack is still NOT an option. Upon asking the salesman about it, he said that the folding seats will do the job. I told him that I also have 60/40 folding seats, but that trick won't work if you have rear passengers. He quickly stated that I could buy a ski rack for the roof rails. I informed him that I didn't wanna get my skis stolen while eating lunch and being parked. He then told me I should buy one of those bix ski/snowboard boxes and mount it on the roof. I told him that I would look like an Antonov-225 carrying the Buran, and I wouldn't clear the 6-foot limit of any parking lot like that. Impression 4 = no xenons?! no rain-sensing wipers?! Benz wants the same starting price ($60000) as the X5 3.0i yet I don't even get some complimentary xenons? No. I was informed that was a $1945 option. Oh, and no standard front heated seats either. What about the rear ones? Not even an option. Rain-sensing wipers? $220 please. Upholstery? Not even leatherette - I am offered CLOTH! Impression 5 = OK, this thing has much more power than the X5 3.0i. It's got 268hp, and it's shifting through 7-speeds! Somehow, I found its 8.4-second run to 100 to be slow for the stats of this vehicle. I mean, the X5, with only a 3L engine, and nearly 50hp less still manages an 8.8 run. If given a larger engine with more hp and torque, plus a 7-speed tranny, so that you can stay at higher RPMs for longer, I would have expected a low-8 run at least! Impression 6 = OK let's hear something positive. Well the demo I drove had the HK Logic 7. That is nearly the same thing BMW puts in the 3, 5 and 7. Much better than the stock audio on the X5. I've also heard the DSP in the X5, and I have to hand the crown to the ML in that department. Sorry. Impression 7 = Legroom. This thing has 5 inches more in the rear, 1 more in the front, and the plastic around the A/C controls doesn't cut into your knee like in the X5. I appreciate the space. Did I mention the cargo area looks twice as large? The X5 is an aging machine, but even this new-gen ML falls short again. I can't wait to see how that gap will broaden when the new X5 comes.
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I agree with your impressions. I am so glad I ended up with the X5, instead of the ML500 I had originally intended to get. The BMW is a much nicer vehicle, in many ways.
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I didn't know there was an MB dealer in North York....
hahaha the only one I know by there is in Markham...on Kennedy...and I have a friend that lives in north york....guess I don't go around too much over there
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2008 ML320 CDI | Iridium Silver | Black ARTICO Leather | Premium Package (H/K Logic7, Parktronic, Rear Heated Seats, Rear Power Hatch, DVD Nav, 10-way Front Seats w/ Memory) | Backup Camera | Aluminum Running Boards | 4500K MTEC Low-beam HID | 30% Metallic Tint | Boomerang2 Recovery System | Weathertech Front Floorliners | Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1 Winter Tires |
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My mom just got a '06 ML500. Me and my father both drive 4.4 X5s. I find it very hard to compare the ML and the BMW. I thoroughly enjoy driving both. The ML is amazing on the highway and a breeze to drive around town. But the X has this feeling to it like you're actually driving a vehicle, and the ML has a distinct "fly-by-wire" feel to handling and accelerating. Either way they're both great vehicles and while I'm partial to my X due to loyalty, I think both cars are EQUALLY great machines. I can't say one is better than the other.
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"Impression 4 = no xenons?! no rain-sensing wipers?! Benz wants the same starting price ($60000) as the X5 3.0i yet I don't even get some complimentary xenons? No. I was informed that was a $1945 option. Oh, and no standard front heated seats either. What about the rear ones? Not even an option. Rain-sensing wipers? $220 please. Upholstery? Not even leatherette - I am offered CLOTH!"
Yeah that sucks. Same experience when I tested the ML 350. I mean they'll charge you for every option. You sure about starting price? I think there was a typo there.
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The woman two doors down from me has the ML350. Every time I roll by it I think it is poo. Now I haven't driven one, so I can't comment from that point but looks wise I really prefer the X to the ML.
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Thanks for sharing, Bavarian, but.... the starting price on the 3.0 X5 is not $60K. It's still a great review. Thanks!
Juan
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![]() Correction: a lot less IN USD.
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