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Old 10-27-2008, 06:47 AM
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U.N. for Obama

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What's with Britain and Germany?

Obama supporters hail from Russia, Canada, France, Britain, Germany, the Netherlands, Sierra Leone, South Africa, Indonesia and elsewhere. One American employee here seemed puzzled that he was being asked whether Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was even a consideration. "Obama was and is unstoppable," the official said. "Please, God, let him win," he added.
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Damn foreigners, how dare they suggest to us who to vote for..
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Damn foreigners, how dare they suggest to us who to vote for..
not the smartest comment considering the variety of members we have here unless you were joking
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:18 PM
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not the smartest comment considering the variety of members we have here unless you were joking
He/She was. Judging by previous post this person is an Obama supporter so the comment was in jest. I guess.
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Is that really a surprise?
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Damn foreigners, how dare they suggest to us who to vote for..
I totally agree with that.
I'm a foreigner so I have to respect the american people's vote without expressing myself on who do I think is better for america !

The only people who have to discuss about the best candidate are these who are able to vote.
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If you separate the UN out, and go to the broader question, is the US more likely to embrace multilateralism under McCain or Obama? Obama speaks about it more, and has a more multi-cultural background, but McCain has spoken about a league of countries (ie not the UN) and his support of free trade fits with the idea of a more open US administration.

My suspicion is that it is the interest in multilateralism that causes many non-US citizens to appear more supportive of Obama, not their interest in the UN as an organization.
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If you separate the UN out, and go to the broader question, is the US more likely to embrace multilateralism under McCain or Obama? Obama speaks about it more, and has a more multi-cultural background, but McCain has spoken about a league of countries (ie not the UN) and his support of free trade fits with the idea of a more open US administration.

My suspicion is that it is the interest in multilateralism that causes many non-US citizens to appear more supportive of Obama, not their interest in the UN as an organization.
Very well said.
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The only people who have to discuss about the best candidate are these who are able to vote.
I don't agree. If the question is who will provide the best policies for something like job creation in the southern US (purely as an example) then it seems to me to be a very US-centric issue. No business of anyone else.

However, if the question at hand speaks more to America's relations with the world (and the UN, in this case) then it seems to me that it directly affects those citizens of the world. They (meaning we, the non-US citizens) don't get a vote, absolutely correct, but it is at least question that is worth discussing. That is because Americans can then reflect on how they are seen in the world (for all the good, and the bad). For those in the US that don't care about those perceptions, no problem, it is their vote and they can do as they wish. For those that do care, the discussions may be relevant.

I try to be careful not to support any one candidate, and I don't vote in the on-line polls that ask who will you vote for. I do participate in the debates as an interested observer.
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