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Old 10-27-2008, 06:35 PM
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I am not sure I follow your logic. Are you defending the suspects?

A Google search of ATF Arrest returned 473,000 hits. Maybe all the arrests referenced in those links broke protocol as well?
NO. Lets lake that perfectly clear. In majority of cases, the ATF works with the Sheriff, who makes the arrest. Try to understand what the ATF's job is. They are not the same as the DEA and FBI.
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NO. Lets make that perfectly clear.
OK, thanks.

Now, the charges (from the media report, so this may not be perfectly accurate) allege "possessing an unregistered firearm, conspiring to steal firearms from a federally licensed gun dealer, and threatening a candidate for president"

The first seems to be an ATF responsibility, the second seems to be an ATF responsibility, and the third appears to be an ATF responsibility if they were threatening the candidate via alcohol, firearms, or tobacco. Sorry, a moment of levity. The accused do, after all, appear to be nut cases.

What suggests that ATF overstepped their bounds, given the information above on their authority levels?
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Way to make something that should have been "good job feds" into a freakin' debate on capability
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/.../skinhead_plot

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At this point, there does not appear to be any formal assassination plan, Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said.
"Whether or not they had the capability or the wherewithal to carry out an attack remains to be seen," he said.
Zahren said the statements about the assassination came out in interviews after the men were arrested last week.
The Secret Service became involved in the investigation once it was clear that an Obama assassination attempt was part of this violent far-reaching plot.
"We don't discount anything," Zahren said, adding that it's one thing for the defendants to make statements, but it's not the same as having an organized assassination plan.
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What a gem...Someone lock up this piece of trash. There should be a stupidity law on the books for people like this.

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Totally lock up these idiots, but as stupid as it is they still deserve a fair trial and should be punished for only whatever laws they have broken.
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Way to make something that should have been "good job feds" into a freakin' debate on capability
Jurisdiction/capability is not the big issue here.
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no surprises here...and he isn't even a president...if he ends up winning....watch out LOL
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What a gem...Someone lock up this piece of trash. There should be a stupidity law on the books for people like this.


Sorry but...closet fem right there...probably a little self loathing (said in Dr. Phil voice).


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