Income Tax rate comparison around the world

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by blondboinsd

Where did you get the picture of SJ?

I can't reveal my sources

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by NOVAX5

Mathematically explained:
Having kids is expensive
=> We need more money to raise our kids
=> Tax breaks

So you get tax breaks because you need more money? Sounds like "wealth redistribution" or socialism to me.

I thought the idea of capitalism was that you get money based on how hard you work and not based on what you need.

[NOVAX5]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

So you get tax breaks because you need more money? Sounds like "wealth redistribution" or socialism to me.

I thought the idea of capitalism was that you get money based on how hard you work and not based on what you need.

Isn't this why people voted for Obama and not for McCain?

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by NOVAX5

Isn't this why people voted for Obama and not for McCain?

Obviously. But don't criticize socialism but then argue that the tax code which allows you to have a bigger tax break is fair because you need the money more than some other guy.

I've noticed that about most people who post anti-socialist retoric on this board. They love socialism when it benefits them, although in those cases they rarely even recognize that it's socialism. They only complain about socialism when they don't share in the benefits.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

Obviously. But don't criticize socialism but then argue that the tax code which allows you to have a bigger tax break is fair because you need the money more than some other guy.

I've noticed that about most people who post anti-socialist retoric on this board. They love socialism when it benefits them, although in those cases they rarely even recognize that it's socialism. They only complain about socialism when they don't share in the benefits.

Oh..you mean the money YOU worked for

Very simply:

If you make $$$$ you get to keep .60 of every 1.00
If you make $$ you get to keep .70 of every 1.00

Moral of the story, do just enough to get by but don't do "really" well or we'll take more of your money. Buy hey, you're making more..so overall you're still getting more

Yeah..that seems fair

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by Wagner

Very simply:

If you make $$$$ you get to keep .60 of every 1.00
If you make $$ you get to keep .70 of every 1.00

And if you make $$ and you have 2 kids, you get to keep .80 out of every 1.00

And if you are a business owner and you take your $$ in capital gains, you get to keep .85 out of every 1.00.

Or better yet, if you are a business owner and you make $ (you really make $$$, but you write off many of your personal expenses as business expenses), then you get to keep more than .90 of every 1.00.



The more important question, is what services do you get in return for the .10 - .30 of every dollar you pay the government?

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

And if you make $$ and you have 2 kids, you get to keep .80 out of every 1.00

And if you are a business owner and you take your $$ in capital gains, you get to keep .85 out of every 1.00.

Or better yet, if you are a business owner and you make $ (you really make $$$, but you write off many of your personal expenses as business expenses), then you get to keep more than .90 of every 1.00.



The more important question, is what services do you get in return for the .10 - .30 of every dollar you pay the government?

No the important question is the fact that you just underlined what I said. If you make $ you get to keep MORE than if you make $$. And that folks, is BS.

Think of it this way, if you're a C student and your friend is an A student..should you both get B's???

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by Wagner

No the important question is the fact that you just underlined what I said. If you make $ you get to keep MORE than if you make $$. And that folks, is BS.

Taxing people on their income (or spending) is what is BS.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

Taxing people on their income (or spending) is what is BS.

Hmmmmmmmmm. OK

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by Wagner

Think of it this way, if you're a C student and your friend is an A student..should you both get B's???

BTW, in your analogy here, the way it should work is that the C student should be given after-school tutoring, and then both students will end up with an A.

Except, you would probably complain that you don't want your taxes paying for the after-school tutoring since maybe your kid is the "A" student and doesn't need the tutoring.

I didn't play football in high school. Maybe my parents should have complained about their taxes going to fund high school football -- another form of wealth redistribution. Maybe only parents of football players should pay for the funding for the football team. Otherwise, it's BS, right?

And maybe someone who takes the train to work and doesn't drive should complain about their taxes going to pay for road repairs.

The examples of "wealth redistribution" in our current system go far beyond tax rates.