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Old 03-25-2009, 06:16 PM
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Actually I do need him to be smart. These are complicated issues and deserve to be thoroughly evaluated by someone who didn't graduate with a "D" average from a school he only got into on legacy.
I don't disagree with you there, but I think that the character of the people he puts in position and his ability to work with Congress should not be overlooked in favor of his intellect (which I am also not disputing).
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:30 PM
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I completely agree with you on the moral issue and so forth. It wasn't the right place or the right time to be doing that stuff and he did bring shame to the office. Frankly, he is married with a kid and that's enough in my book.

Having said that, I still don't care about his private life as long as he gets the job done. I know nothing about the privates lives of congress and they may be more wacked out then even the weirdest Taratino movie. What interests me is whether or not they are doing their jobs, and the answer to that is quite obvious.

No the scientist was not an elected Federal official, but he was working in a Federally funded lab using Federal funds.
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So the next set of questions then I'd propose is:

Given Clinton's activities, did that make him less effective at his job?

Could he have accomplished more if he didn't do this and subsequently get caught?

Did other people work with him differently (maybe less effectively or work against him) because of what he did?

If the end result is a diminished capacity to lead or execute on the tasks small and or large does that matter?


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I completely agree with you on the moral issue and so forth. It wasn't the right place or the right time to be doing that stuff and he did bring shame to the office. Frankly, he is married with a kid and that's enough in my book.

Having said that, I still don't care about his private life as long as he gets the job done. I know nothing about the privates lives of congress and they may be more wacked out then even the weirdest Taratino movie. What interests me is whether or not they are doing their jobs, and the answer to that is quite obvious.

No the scientist was not an elected Federal official, but he was working in a Federally funded lab using Federal funds.
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Again good points. Drop Clinton for a second and think about Spitzer. Maybe it was the regular hotel 'visits' that made him so effective at his job and without them he would have accomplished half as much. Now we'll never know.
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Ha ha...

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Again good points. Drop Clinton for a second and think about Spitzer. Maybe it was the regular hotel 'visits' that made him so effective at his job and without them he would have accomplished half as much. Now we'll never know.
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Just thought about this. If you follow Formula 1 and know who Max Moseley is and the scandal that involved his private life last year, there is an interesting contrast between his situation and the Spitzer situation that would certainly warrant debate relative to the comment I made below.

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Again good points. Drop Clinton for a second and think about Spitzer. Maybe it was the regular hotel 'visits' that made him so effective at his job and without them he would have accomplished half as much. Now we'll never know.
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