I knew it had to be Americas fault that Iran cant run an election

[Wagner]

Iran's Top Leader Warns of Protest Crackdown as Crowd Chants 'Death to America' - Iran | Map | News - FOXNews.com

[Viperfreak2]

He said "How can one rig an election when the difference is 11 million votes"

Uh, he writes down two numbers on a piece of paper then hands it to the 'election official' and says "that is the result of the election. If it isn't you lose you head."

Does islam have a rule against telling a lie?

It is not the US govt stirring up the protests, IT'S YOUR OWN PEOPLE DUMBASS!

[X5rolls]

An election run by a regime that shoots demonstrators, expels journalists and arrests people for being politically active. An election process that allows 4 carefully chosen candidates out of the 476 who tried to run for office.

The civil unrest will unfortunately be swatted down, more people killed and silenced. It is their way.

The world should stand with the peaceful demonstrators.

[Krimson X]

House overwhelmingly passes Iranian resolution

House overwhelmingly approves Iranian resolution – The CNN Wire - CNN.com Blogs

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Krimson X

House overwhelmingly passes Iranian resolution

House overwhelmingly approves Iranian resolution – The CNN Wire - CNN.com Blogs

And why did we have a vote on that? Go Rep. Howard Berman and Rep. Mike Pence

House approves Iran bill 405-1
By Ian Swanson
Posted: 06/19/09 11:51 AM [ET]

The House overwhelmingly approved a resolution Friday in support of Iranian dissidents as that country’s top cleric warned protesters to end demonstrations.

The resolution was approved in a 405-1 vote, with two members voting present. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was the only lawmaker opposed to the resolution. Reps. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) and David Loebsack (D-Iowa) voted present.

“This resolution is not about American interests,” said Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee. “It is about American values that I believe are universal.”

Berman sponsored the resolution with Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.).

Iran has been consumed by demonstrations protesting the election of Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad since last weekend. Opposition candidates have insisted the election was rigged for Ahmadinejad.

But Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, on Friday offered his strongest defense yet of the election, and warned of repercussions if demonstrations continued. He said opposition leaders will be “responsible for bloodshed and chaos” if they do not stop further rallies, according to a report in The New York Times.

The comments suggested Iran’s authorities are prepared to end the demonstrations with force if they persist.

“We are extremely disturbed at statements made by Ayatollah Khamenei which seem to give the green light to security forces to violently handle protesters exercising their right to demonstrate and express their views," said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui, deputy director of Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa program.

In Washington, the debate has centered on whether President Obama should be more forceful in criticizing Iranian authorities, and in showing support for the demonstrators.

The issue has put Obama in a tough spot, with conservatives blasting him for not showing more support for demonstrators, and Iran criticizing the U.S. and Obama for meddling in its affairs.

Obama has sought to find a middle ground to prevent Iran from blaming the demonstrations on the U.S.

Some lawmakers during the debate on the resolution said Congress must be careful not to hurt the demonstrators.

“It’s important to not allow the Congress to be used in what is essentially an internal fight in Iran,” said Ellison, one of two Muslim members of Congress. He said Congress should “not allow ourselves to be used” against the people it is trying to protect.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) acknowledged the fight is an internal debate in Iran, but said that country is “run by theocrats” and urged support for the resolution.

[Krimson X]

Originally Posted by Wagner

And why did we have a vote on that?

See, I think that is the problem. We are constantly trying to pass on "American values" to the rest of the world. I have realized that the rest of the world cannot be us, no mater how democratic they are. That is what got us in trouble in Iraq. Who says that the Iranian people even want the U.S. to intervene? Everyone I hear says otherwise.

I like the resolution because it is an affirmation of our support for democracy anywhere in the world. However, anything beyond that is dangerous. The "Supreme Leader" has already accused us of meddling, and we have not done a thing. For all we know, the "Supreme Leader" could view the resolution as a declaration of war against Iran. Lets hope not for the people of Iran.

I agree with Senator Ellison, let us not be a pawn in the "Supreme Leader's" game. He will use the words of the U.S. to further oppress the opposition.

Let us learn form history, too. We've stood with Middle-East opposition in the past (Afghanistan v. Russia and Iraq v. Iran) and it turned around to bite us in the ass.

[Quicksilver]

How many votes did they have to count?
How many people counted them?
How long did it take?

Just asking........

[AzX5]

Too bad Eric isn't here to defend the legitimate democratic voting process in Iran, yet denounce ours as rigged, corrupt, etc.,....

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

How many votes did they have to count?
How many people counted them?
How long did it take?

Just asking........

Come on, you're talking about a voting practice that involves a sheet of paper, plastic bin and a purple thumb...

[Quicksilver]

Exactly;

Call me a dummy but I'm still corn-fuzzed.

How many ballots are we talking about? 20-30 Million?
How long was it before they announced the results?
How did they count all those votes between the time
people voted and the results were announced?

Originally Posted by Wagner

Come on, you're talking about a voting practice that involves a sheet of paper, plastic bin and a purple thumb...