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M-individual 01-21-2008 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
I'm wondering more and more if there will even be a market for the 6er with this [email protected] around.....

Similar price range, M3 may be a hair smaller but will do everything better....why pay 5-10K more for a 650? :dunno:

There will certainly be a market for the 6er when the M3 CSL will be released. One can't compare the two cars at all. Two different worlds.

If the intent of the new CSL is similar to the previous one (which I'm sure it will) one will have a race car which is street legal. Everything will be performance driven whereas the 650 is a GT with performance (but nothing like the M products) and comfort.

What may happen is that the M3 CSL will steel customers from the M6 range as rumour has it that there won't be an M6 CSL. For true hard core fans the choice will be easy. No M6 but the M3 CSL.

breytonX5 01-21-2008 10:30 AM

Definitely an E92 M3 CSL prototype. You can see a few visual styling difference from "normal" M3 such as: carbon fiber roof, different (more agressive) front and rear bumper fascias, different trunk lid etc. I don't think that's just an add-on spoiler but a whole integrated deck lid (like the previous CSL). Special, light-weight 19" wheels will surface soon as well. It will be a beast of a car. Let's just hope BMW will import it over here.

Wagner 01-21-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by M-individual
There will certainly be a market for the 6er when the M3 CSL will be released. One can't compare the two cars at all. Two different worlds.

If the intent of the new CSL is similar to the previous one (which I'm sure it will) one will have a race car which is street legal. Everything will be performance driven whereas the 650 is a GT with performance (but nothing like the M products) and comfort.

What may happen is that the M3 CSL will steel customers from the M6 range as rumour has it that there won't be an M6 CSL. For true hard core fans the choice will be easy. No M6 but the M3 CSL.

Maybe so, but I'm not comparing it to the price bloated M6, I'm comparing the M3 to the 650 which will cost nearly the same (if not less for the M3). I was wrong about the X6 (apparently people like the Aztek in Bimmer badges :dunno:) so..maybe 650's will not see a sales drop when the M3 hits the street. Though I love my 6er, SanGuru was right..handles like a pig. So if you could get the M3 for the same money....done deal IMO.

LeMansX5 01-21-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
Maybe so, but I'm not comparing it to the price bloated M6, I'm comparing the M3 to the 650 which will cost nearly the same (if not less for the M3). I was wrong about the X6 (apparently people like the Aztek in Bimmer badges :dunno:) so..maybe 650's will not see a sales drop when the M3 hits the street. Though I love my 6er, SanGuru was right..handles like a pig. So if you could get the M3 for the same money....done deal IMO.

I see an M3 in your future very soon. :)

Wagner 01-21-2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LeMansX5
I see an M3 in your future very soon. :)

Maybe sometime this year, not very soon though :)

Boston X5 4.4 01-21-2008 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagner
I'm wondering more and more if there will even be a market for the 6er with this [email protected] around.....

Similar price range, M3 may be a hair smaller but will do everything better....why pay 5-10K more for a 650? :dunno:

Two totally different target audiences and age groups IMO.

breytonX5 01-21-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston X5 4.4
Two totally different target audiences and age groups IMO.

+1
Plus the new M3 is priced very favourably and is considerably less expensive than than the 6er.

Wagner 01-21-2008 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston X5 4.4
Two totally different target audiences and age groups IMO.

Not sure how IMO, the cost is the same...the cost will define the age group.

Bretyton, you don't think the M3 CSL will come in around the $70+ K range?

breytonX5 01-21-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
Not sure how IMO, the cost is the same...the cost will define the age group.

Bretyton, you don't think the M3 CSL will come in around the $70+ K range?

Oh you're talking about the CSL. Then definitely they're in the same price range.

Wagner 01-21-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by breytonX5
Oh you're talking about the CSL. Then definitely they're in the same price range.

Yeah, this is a CSL thread ;) I guess I should have put CSL next to every "M3..." to clarify.


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