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Boston X5 4.4 11-16-2007 02:47 PM

Dyno results from Procede V2 for 335i
 
400+whp/420+wtq!
Procede V2 ,Vishnu Cat back exhaust , and 98 Octane fuel Mix. The dynos show Stock hp without Vishnu Catback exhaust and then with Procede V2 added on - this car is a beast!

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...d.php?t=104948

Wagner 11-16-2007 02:50 PM

Then the motor went BANG. If it could reliably make those power numbers over time, BMW would have made it that way from the factory. They aren't out to build crap rides :rofl:

Boston X5 4.4 11-16-2007 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
Then the motor went BANG. If it could reliably make those power numbers over time, BMW would have made it that way from the factory. They aren't out to build crap rides :rofl:

Yeah, that's what I was wondering too - how much more can it take.
Although, V1 has been around a year or so (?) and I haven't read any cases of blown motors - I think one of the member here (SAN?) has it installed. V2 is certainly more extreme and seems to be tripping more codes. Time will tell.

Wagner 11-16-2007 03:01 PM

Give them time, I'm sure numbers in the mid 300s are fine, but up in the 400's....I wouldn't be doing that every day in a daily driver...but that is just me.

vinuneuro 11-16-2007 04:51 PM

I hope your maps aren't for 98, or you have the ability switch between multiple ones..

Agree with Wagner that anything beyond 350whp for a dd is pointless. How much did you make with the lude Ryan?

GUINNESS 11-16-2007 05:17 PM

Bah... I'm waiting for someone to tune the 335 to 600hp. There's a guy who turbo'd an e36 M3 and is putting down around 600.... and it's a DD.

Wagner 11-16-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vinuneuro
I hope your maps aren't for 98, or you have the ability switch between multiple ones..

Agree with Wagner that anything beyond 350whp for a dd is pointless. How much did you make with the lude Ryan?

Lude was running around 230whp on 7psi w/o the 50 shot. Remember that thing is FWD so torque steer was crazy. I upgraded the suspension and brakes, something I'm almost guaranteeing these guys aren't doing when they throw that chip in.

Wagner 11-16-2007 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GUINNESS
Bah... I'm waiting for someone to tune the 335 to 600hp. There's a guy who turbo'd an e36 M3 and is putting down around 600.... and it's a DD.


That is nothing, guys were taking I6 Supras and making 1000whp routinely...nuts if you ask me and unless it is ONLY for the track, pointless. You can't corner with 1000whp, so what is the point for a DD?

Mid 300's IMO is a solid HP standpoint and remember that is a WHP number. Heck, my 350Z was putting 260whp down with minor upgrades, no FI and no internal mods......that car was awesome.

vinuneuro 11-16-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GUINNESS
Bah... I'm waiting for someone to tune the 335 to 600hp. There's a guy who turbo'd an e36 M3 and is putting down around 600.... and it's a DD.

Why? You guys are forgetting that a key to being fast at the track, is balance. These cars weren't designed to put down 600hp. It'd be useless unless you went to a dragstrip, which is pointless in itself.

SANguru 11-16-2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
Then the motor went BANG. If it could reliably make those power numbers over time, BMW would have made it that way from the factory. They aren't out to build crap rides :rofl:

7000+ miles already on v2 and I have intercooler upgrades.. where's the bang??? The bottom end and top end are both very strong and built of boost. BMW detuned the 335 motor so they don't have to further tune the normally aspirated V8 in the M3 and have it way overrun the M5. It's all marketing. I'm making over 450hp BTW and it's my daily driver and if you don't on it too hard, 28 mpg.

SANguru 11-16-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston X5 4.4
Yeah, that's what I was wondering too - how much more can it take.
Although, V1 has been around a year or so (?) and I haven't read any cases of blown motors - I think one of the member here (SAN?) has it installed. V2 is certainly more extreme and seems to be tripping more codes. Time will tell.

it was tripping codes because of bad harnesses.

SANguru 11-16-2007 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vinuneuro
I hope your maps aren't for 98, or you have the ability switch between multiple ones..

Agree with Wagner that anything beyond 350whp for a dd is pointless. How much did you make with the lude Ryan?

huh???? WTF are you talking about.. why not just take the bus then or walk... :confused:

Wagner 11-16-2007 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SANguru
7000+ miles already on v2 and I have intercooler upgrades.. where's the bang??? The bottom end and top end are both very strong and built of boost. BMW detuned the 335 motor so they don't have to further tune the normally aspirated V8 in the M3 and have it way overrun the M5. It's all marketing. I'm making over 450hp BTW and it's my daily driver and if you don't on it too hard, 28 mpg.


I'll fully admit I don't have one, or have a friend with one. Just from most FI's I've seen on the track in the last 15 years...anyone pushing 100whp over stock was risking blowing the motor. Of course the Intercooler helps, but not as much as a upgraded internals. I'm surprised yours is lasting so long. What are the boost levels (dd vs what it could be).

SANguru 11-16-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
I'll fully admit I don't have one, or have a friend with one. Just from most FI's I've seen on the track in the last 15 years...anyone pushing 100whp over stock was risking blowing the motor. Of course the Intercooler helps, but not as much as a upgraded internals. I'm surprised yours is lasting so long. What are the boost levels (dd vs what it could be).

That's a misconception. Most of the turbo motors now are built pretty damn strong. Subaru and Evo motors along with audi 1.8t and 2.7T blocks are bulletproof. Tune it correctly, get enough spark and fuel and you are completely fine. It's those who slap kits together and don't a/f that will blow stuff up. The 335i motors are good for up to 600-700hp easily. It's the tranny and drive train that you have to worry about. I did a blackstone report both after V1 and V2 and check my plugs and my motor is burning very clean and burns no oil. I would say even at 500hp at the crank, this motor is not stressed as show by the blackstone report.

Wagner 11-17-2007 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SANguru
That's a misconception. Most of the turbo motors now are built pretty damn strong. Subaru and Evo motors along with audi 1.8t and 2.7T blocks are bulletproof. Tune it correctly, get enough spark and fuel and you are completely fine. It's those who slap kits together and don't a/f that will blow stuff up. The 335i motors are good for up to 600-700hp easily. It's the tranny and drive train that you have to worry about. I did a blackstone report both after V1 and V2 and check my plugs and my motor is burning very clean and burns no oil. I would say even at 500hp at the crank, this motor is not stressed as show by the blackstone report.

As I said, I've seen these FI's at the track so almost ALL are after market setups. I did watch many GT-S Eclipses blow rods right through their block. Haven't seen any FI factory models lately, like you mentioned. Curious what the clutch is rated to on the 335 :dunno: I'd look to that as the first weak spot for getting the power down, followed by the trans as you mentioned. Are you running a manual?

vinuneuro 11-17-2007 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SANguru
huh???? WTF are you talking about.. why not just take the bus then or walk... :confused:

Do you guys have 98 at the pump, commonly?

SSG.Santiago 11-17-2007 03:03 PM

I have V1 on mine I should be receiving my V2 next week (hopefully):rolleyes:

toohotdoc 11-17-2007 04:07 PM

Nothing going to go bang in a 335i with 400hp, remember ppl, its not a jap engine like a honda or nissan.

SANguru 11-17-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vinuneuro
Do you guys have 98 at the pump, commonly?

I have 100 octane at a local gas station here.. don't run it too often since it would destroy the seals.


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