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motordavid 06-06-2008 04:07 PM

I'm all for more drilling, more "in country oil production", etc.

It's mostly wishful thinking; the investment costs are enormous.
The "govt", regardless of 'party', is not helpful and is usually
a detriment, based on "regs", parochial agencies, bureaucracies
and bs.

The "great minds" are a wonderful thing; few, if any, reside in
the govt. Again, the investment costs are huge and the infra-
structure to deliver crude, is thin. Tack on the lack of refining
capabilities in the US, and it's a fookin quagmire.

I'm all for it, but it rings of rah-rah...into my seventh decade on
this globe and things are slow to change and "improvements"
are infrequent, imo.
BR,mD

carlgo 06-06-2008 08:20 PM

The remaining oil needs to be preserved for plastics and other future materials. Burning it is just a waste and harmful besides. A pocket of oil here or there is fine, but it takes years to develop.

They often say that there isn't enough refinery capacity. If not, then why even bother to drill if it can't be refined.

It is all bull; they will do what makes them the most money for the least effort. Who would expect any different? The oil companies evidently concluded that it is better to sell one gallon of gas for $5 than to spend billions to be able sell five gallons for $5.

AzX5 06-07-2008 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlgo
A pocket of oil here or there is fine, but it takes years to develop.

I don't think we're talking about just a "pocket" of oil here or there. And the same old answer of "it takes years to develop" just doesn't fly. The same answers have been given for years and years and years. Maybe if we started drilling 10 years ago, we wouldn't have $4/gallon gas now. Besides, even if we did, I'd rather that oil money stayed in the U.S. and not given to the Saudis.

Thunder22 06-07-2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy
Sure 3,649 million barrels of oil would not be worth the time or effort it would take to tap this resource.
.


3,649 million barrels = 3 billion 649 million barrels.

That's not worth it? or is it a typo?

MrLabGuy 06-07-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gresch
3,649 million barrels = 3 billion 649 million barrels.

That's not worth it? or is it a typo?

Nope, that number was from a report MotorDavid quoted which greatly underestimated the amount of available oil easily extracted from the site. There are some challenges; however, horizontal drilling has come a long way since this site was discovered. I'd rather continue to pay $4 a gallon to see that Saudi Arabia gets no more American Dollars. Let's get off the pot and rectify this situation.

There should be a Presidential declaration to drill in Anwar, build refineries and achieve energy Independence as a National Security directive.

carlgo 06-07-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzX5
I don't think we're talking about just a "pocket" of oil here or there. And the same old answer of "it takes years to develop" just doesn't fly. The same answers have been given for years and years and years. Maybe if we started drilling 10 years ago, we wouldn't have $4/gallon gas now. Besides, even if we did, I'd rather that oil money stayed in the U.S. and not given to the Saudis.

Sure, I exaggerated that and certainly every delay in drilling, etc sets everything back. But, clearly the not-in-my-backyard argument is strong, so strong that people seem to be more willing to pay up at the pump than to have a refinery next door. And there is a reason for that.

I coached an all-star kids baseball game on the lee side of a refinery and I still wonder why everyone in that town isn't dead. It was god-awful. I don't believe the claims that they are safe. No sane person with choices would stand for that. The people there clearly had no options.

People are labelled as some sort of nuts if they don't welcome that sort of thing into their neighborhoods! I can live with the label.

And, even if we find a trillion quadrillion barrels of naturally-occurring Chevron 102 octane white pump gas in the middle of Nebraska, is it a good idea to burn it up? (yes, there was such a thing and it cost less than 30c per gal).

JahBoundry 12-11-2008 02:34 PM

"What is America waiting for? McCain should jump on this now as a campaign promise"


Mccain is too old to jump on anything...

LeMansX5 12-11-2008 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JahBoundry
"What is America waiting for? McCain should jump on this now as a campaign promise"


Mccain is too old to jump on anything...

:bustingup

Quicksilver 12-11-2008 05:04 PM

Help us out.....

What does McCain have to do with
"jumping on this now as a campaign promise"....:dunno:

MrLabGuy 12-11-2008 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Help us out.....

What does McCain have to do with
"jumping on this now as a campaign promise"....:dunno:

News Flash Quick...The election is over. You're not living up to your nickname. ;)


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