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MrLabGuy 10-21-2008 04:36 PM
Biden...Obama will be tested in his first 6 months.
 
Great...Biden even sees Obama as weak. I guess that is why earlier in the campaign before being nominated as VP he doubted Obama's experience to be President and in fact said the job did not lead itself to on the job training.

Just what America needs...Our enemies to test our new Weak commander in chief.

Krimson X 10-21-2008 04:41 PM
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Great...Biden even sees Obama as weak. I guess that is why earlier in the campaign before being nominated as VP he doubted Obama's experience to be President and in fact said the job did not lead itself to on the job training.

Just what America needs...Our enemies to test our new Weak commander in chief.
Regardless of who is Commander in Chief, the will be tested. True, McCain has already been tested, and we've seen his answers to the test...

Bomb, bomb, bomb...Bomb, Bomb Iran.

Wagner 10-21-2008 04:45 PM
Bombing works, hence no terror attacks in the US since 9/11/2001. May be an ugly answer, and perhaps not the only answer, but the answer worked.

IMO, nobody is going to get 'tested'. Al Queda is near nil, Taliban couldn't organize an attack outside of the ME if it tried and the economy is so torched globally, nobody is making enough money to attack.

What you should be asking yourselves is whose tax plan over the next 4 years will leave you better or worse. Well, that and as a NRA member I couldn't vote for Obama because his stance on personal guns is way out of line with mine along with the majority of his supposed policies.

MrLabGuy 10-21-2008 05:14 PM
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Bombing works, hence no terror attacks in the US since 9/11/2001. May be an ugly answer, and perhaps not the only answer, but the answer worked.

IMO, nobody is going to get 'tested'. Al Queda is near nil, Taliban couldn't organize an attack outside of the ME if it tried and the economy is so torched globally, nobody is making enough money to attack.

What you should be asking yourselves is whose tax plan over the next 4 years will leave you better or worse. Well, that and as a NRA member I couldn't vote for Obama because his stance on personal guns is way out of line with mine along with the majority of his supposed policies.
You'll pay for my $500 tax refund and my wife and I do pretty well. We're by no means poor. :D

Eric5273 10-21-2008 06:59 PM
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Bombing works
I don't know about your definition of "works", but my definition of "works" is that nobody gets killed, including those who live in other countries.

Wagner 10-21-2008 07:33 PM
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I don't know about your definition of "works", but my definition of "works" is that nobody gets killed, including those who live in other countries.

Well your definition in war time is WRONG then :) Probably why you've never worked for DoD.

MrLabGuy 10-21-2008 07:50 PM
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Well your definition in war time is WRONG then :) Probably why you've never worked for DoD.
Eric's response reminded me of a movie where war was sanitized by computers assigning casualties to civilians who were then put to death in a "humane" manner. For the life of me I can't remember the name of the movie.

Bombs that don't kill :rofl: Let's just drop leaflets on the battlefield with smiley faces and valentine cards.

Wagner 10-21-2008 08:05 PM
I will never ever, ever, understand people who think that all problems can be worked out diplomatically. It would be wonderful if that was true, but it just is not. So sadly, better have the bigger stick. Or risk taking a licking.

I type this as I drink coffee out of my Glock NRA cup :rofl:

JGQ 10-21-2008 08:33 PM
This is typical "open mouth insert foot" syndrome. Biden wanting to brag about his international history knowledge wind up criticizing his own running mate.

I think whoever wins has will be tested:
1) Weak economy, global recession, massive deficit and future inflation.
2) Old infrastructure
3) Energy security and independence
4) Global warming
5) International threats (terrorism, Russian resurgence, Iran, N. Korea, and Iraq)

Pretty tough list of challenging issues.

JGQ 10-21-2008 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wagner
I will never ever, ever, understand people who think that all problems can be worked out diplomatically. It would be wonderful if that was true, but it just is not. So sadly, better have the bigger stick. Or risk taking a licking.

I type this as I drink coffee out of my Glock NRA cup :rofl:
I don't think that all problems could be solved diplomatically, but I certainly think that most of them could be!

We all behave (individuals and nations) based on two drivers: Fear of punishment with certain behavior/action and desire for the gains associated with a behavior/action. You can solve a lot of the world conflicts and problems by creating incentives and clearly identifying consequences.

The only exception is ideological believes. Reasoning sometimes flies out the window with those people. Even with those people, I would still use diplomacy as I use my big stick. After all, ideology is as idea that does not dye by the death of individuals. It dyes when defeated by another ideology!!


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