Al Gore
 

Silly...

Nobel PEACE prize for 'global warming' was always a joke! Just like Gore is. Take it away or not, the Nobel prize has become, or has always been, a communist prize anyway. ie. Rigoberta Menchu from Guatemala. Murdering bi%$# communist.

Wait, does someone still take the Nobel Peace Prize seriously? Norway honestly has that much weight? It is cute and all but I don't know that I hold it in high regard, I'd be far more proud of a Purple Heart holder.

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Trump Wants Gore Stripped of Nobel - Video - FoxNews.com

here ya go, my sister sent this to me today

Imo, they are both blow hards, though I suspect I would rather chase the ball/
have dinner with Trump. Some triva: Gore's roomie at Hawverd was Tommy Lee Jones.

and you know about communism what??...

Coming from trump I don't think so...

Won't matter...He gets to keep all the money he made with this scam backed by the UN, Hollywood and several idiots in our own government. Even Arnold (see Hollywood idiot) Governator of California is still pushing his Global Warming policies. Our State is already going into bankruptcy now Arnold backed by the loonies on the left want to drive out the remaining business from California. Arnold's legacy is going to cost California 1,000,000 jobs by some estimates.

First, you don't know me, how do you know where I'm from or where I've been. I was not educated by this country's public school system, so yes, I do know about communism and yes I've seen it! You are taught to fantasize and want socialism and communism. It is romanticized by the left every day. They run major university and all your union teachers (I know there are MANY great ones out there so don't bother defending them).
"Someone has to give up their slice of the pie so that others can have some" Michelle 'my belle' Obama. Come on!!!!! The only truth about communism is that everyone is equally MISERABLE!!! Just not the politicians who will always have their luxury vehicles and private planes.

I don't know about Global warming but I do know that we purchase to much oil over seas. If we move to Nuclear, Solar and wind power we reduce our dependence on foreign oil. EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD SUPPORT THIS !

please spare me that bs...calling the Nobel Price a communist because communists have receive it in the past...Get your head right

Nobel Piece Prize is a more "progressive" award than "communist"....Theodore Roosevelt received the NPP, and he was far from Communist but very much a Progressive.

Communism has to do with social structure and classes, Socialism deals with economics, Progressivism combines the two.

:dunno: I guess you DO know it all, and everyone :bustingup

Go on living your fantasy :rolleyes:

Good call, well said. Social programs started big time under TR. We have not looked bad since.

Actually I share that as well...visited US many times before I finally moved here. Born and raised in Romania. And most of my family left exactly for that reason...communism...more like because of Ceausescu and pals.

wow, ive heard so many stories just like yours. I run into alot of romanians.

its scary what u guys had to go through :yikes:

yes most people who didn't want to be part of the communist party were harassed constantly by the police.

Now were fighting for the lands which they took from us ;)

I must admit, I don't know about that person. I am going to look him up. I love to learn about History! Any tips on where to search, I don't want to fall victim to some crooked interpretation of the true History.

not sure on particular websites...but looking at '89 Romanian Revolution and before, and Ceausescu's profile along with his wife Elena should give plenty of insights on what happened.

Thank you!! I'll look it up today. It is so neat to have so many people from all over the world on this forum!!!!:thumbup:

Interesting factoid regarding Al Gore:

Gore has done well for himself since he left public service. In 2000, his net worth was estimated to be between $1 and $2 million. By 2007, it had reportedly reached $100 million.

Al Gore gets 10,387 more Apple options - Apple 2.0 - Fortune Brainstorm Tech

Serving as a lightning rod for activist shareholders has its rewards

Al Gore took his lumps at Apple's (AAPL) shareholders meeting Thursday.

Sitting in the front row with the other outside directors, he had to bite his tongue as two pro-environment proposals were voted down and a gadfly named Shelton Ehrlich took the mic to call him a "laughingstock."

"The glaciers have not melted," Ehrlich said, referring to Gore's frequent warnings about the effects of global warming. "If his advice he gives to Apple is as faulty as his views on the environment then he doesn't need to be re-elected." :rofl:

But Gore is amply rewarded for serving on Apple's board. Last year he received in cash and stock options the equivalent of $436,372. The 10,000 options he was granted in 2008 are now worth nearly $750,000.

And according to an SEC filing published Friday, he has just received another 9,397 options — more than any other director — in addition to 990 restricted shares. Net value of last week's haul, including those restricted shares: more than $227,000 at Apple's closing price of $204.62.

:thumbup:. Hey moolis where are you deffending you boy Gore too???:stickpoke Hippie

First off, you don't know me. Call me what you want, I really could not care less. You actually seem a little off balance to me.

Yes, I support Al Gore. You know very little about him, obviously.

:rofl:There you are :bustingup

Enlighten please, what do you "support" about him and what do you "know" that everyone else does not?

What I know about Al Gore is that President Clinton gave him the task to balance the budget. Think about it, a DEMOCRAT who BALANCED THE BUDGET, and at the end of the Clinton administration there was a $238 BILLION DOLLAR YEARLY SURPLUS.

He is also a HUGE part of all the clean up and recycling efforts (green economy) we are doing today. How is that a bad thing? Oh yeah. it costs money to clean up our messes and leave the world better for our children.

I think this one says a lot. It assumed the Bush tax cuts would go away and the economy would grow. I think now we are in a hole we cannot dig our way out of. Thanks Obama!

http://perotcharts.com/images/challe...nges23-640.png

what happened when that peak fell, oh yeah, terrorist attacks and two wars....they have a funny way of removing a surplus. That has very little to do with taxing or even spending.

The point was that since 1968, no one else figured it out, and a trillion on one of the two wars wasn't necessary.

I am not an expert on US economics, and since I don't have a better source I will just take as read the graph that viperfreak2 posted.

However, what I don't understand about your post is that the budget surplus peak appeared to fall in the year 2000, some time before the Sept 11 attacks that you refer to. Also, you note that two wars removed the surplus, it wasn't a spending issue. Wasn't the money being spent on the two wars?

Yes. The budget would have remained balanced if not for the wars.

http://perotcharts.com/images/defici...icit13-640.png

Here is the chart I find the most disturbing:

http://perotcharts.com/images/defici...icit14-640.png

Wars are a necessity (especially you know when people blow up your citizens) unless of course you like to take a back seat and let others defend you :D

And hardly, Bush was president for only months before Sep 11 busted out so any "spending" was already on Congresses books. Unlike today where the new Admin immediately started writing checks. Kinda like how the bulk of the payments for things like "health care" and other packages come due around oh, 2012-15... convenient isn't it :)

Really not sure how any of this relates to Al Gore. If the claim is "Al Gore created the surplus" then lets append all the military failures to Al as well since not engaging an enemy saves a lot of money for social programs. Not to mention glorious NAFTA ;)

Let's take a look at the updated charts directly from the CBO, not using dated information provided by Media Matters. Updated in 2010, scroll down to the baseline budget outlook in table 1.
Summary

While this isn't a nice looking graph, it clearly shows no surplus in sight, and this assumption is at current entitlement levels, as in, no ObamaCare.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/108xx/doc...ummaryTab1.png

Gore absolutely did not create the surplus. He was part of a team to cut waste. That is what Bill Clinton publicly said the VP's job was.

What the hell is Biden doing, other than sticking his foot in his mouth?

I agree some wars are a necessity. Iraq no, Afganistan, yes. AND we should have (and still should) bomb the crap out of the North Korean and the Iranian nuclear sites, and wipe out the Pakistan border region. No ground forces, just AIR FORCE.

While Bill was busy with skirt, Hillary and Al were running the show, kinda like Cheney. I only hope Biden isn't the real brains in the current administration! The way things are going, he just may be.

At the beginning of the first term in 1992, Clinton and Gore developed a "two-page agreement outlining their relationship." Clinton committed himself to regular lunch meetings, recognized Gore as a principal adviser on nominations, and appointed some of Gore's chief advisers to key White House staff positions [...] Clinton involved Gore in decision-making to an unprecedented degree for a vice president. Through their weekly lunches and daily conversations, Gore became the president's "indisputable chief adviser."[26]
Gore had a particular interest in reducing "waste, fraud, and abuse in the federal government and advocated trimming the size of the bureaucracy and the number of regulations."[

I agree with most of what you have said Viper...but what is your reasoning behind bombing Iran and N Korea...

I hate all politicians, they are the lowest scumbags of all. They don't do shit except walk around smiling giving speeches they never wrote(nowadays anyways). America is run by corporations and that will never change. With that said I fricken love this place and have no desire to live elsewhere.

Economists all haven different answers in regards to macro policy. Who the hell knows who is right until the cards are on the table. Tax cuts work when our economy is in good health, but sadly it is not and was not in 2001 and 2003. There is 1000 reasons why the US economy is screwed, but I like to believe we will emerge from this mess alive and well.

I am no climatologist so.....Al gore is a trip. I respect the fact that he is raking in dough hand over fist. This is America is it not? Who said you can't tell stories and get paid. Hell of a salesman if you ask me.

Look at the leaders of NK and Iran. Imanutjob publicly says the holocaust never happened and Israel needs to be wiped off the planet. What will he do when he posseses 10-20 nukes? The 'dear leader' of NK? Kim Jong-il's official biography[3] states that he was born in a secret military camp on Baekdu Mountain (백두산) in northern Korea on 16 February 1942.[8] Official biographers claim that his birth at Baekdu Mountain was foretold by a swallow, and heralded by the appearance of a double rainbow over the mountain and a new star in the heavens.

Soviet records show that Kim Jong-il was born in the village of Vyatskoye, near Khabarovsk, in 1941,[4] where his father, Kim Il-sung, commanded the 1st Battalion of the Soviet 88th Brigade, made up of Chinese and Korean exiles

Kim Jong-il is the centre of an elaborate personality cult inherited from his father and founder of the DPRK, Kim Il-sung. Defectors have been quoted as saying that North Korean schools deify both father and son.[90] He is often the centre of attention throughout ordinary life in the DPRK. His birthday is one of the most important public holidays in the country. On his 60th birthday (based on his official date of birth), mass celebrations occurred throughout the country on the occasion of his Hwangap.[91] Many North Koreans believe that he has the "magical" ability to "control the weather" based on his mood.[90]

In 1994, North Korea and the United States signed an Agreed Framework which was designed to freeze and eventually dismantle the North's nuclear weapons program in exchange for aid in producing two power-generating nuclear reactors.[45] In 2002, Kim Jong-il's government admitted to having produced nuclear weapons since the 1994 agreement. Kim's regime argued the secret production was necessary for security purposes — citing the presence of United States-owned nuclear weapons in South Korea and the new tensions with the U.S. under President George W. Bush.[46] On 9 October 2006, North Korea's Korean Central News Agency announced that it had successfully conducted an underground nuclear test.

I know this thread is about Al Gore. Some of this happened during the Clinton Gore years. Sorry about the off topic.

For some reason you are assuming that Iran will use nukes on Israel...would be suicide...same goes for Israel using nukes on Iran. Just because the guy is a nut job and says a bunch of BS doesn't give us or anyone the right to bomb them...plain and simple. UN, Russia and China are involved in these matters as well, and Im pretty sure our 'cowboy' ways during the Bush era are somewhat gone.

But again...You can't expect Iran not to have weapons when Israel has an undisclosed amount of nukes...

As for N. Korea...IMO gets too much attention in the media. Of course they will want to have some kind of weapons...when US has a bunch of nukes in S Korea...doesn't that make sense to you??

Of course it would be suicide. That's the lesson we learned from the cold war.

IF we take out the nuclear facilities before they come on line and are able to produce bomb grade uranium (too late on the NK's) then we set the potential of us losing a city WAY back. If we wait till the nutjobs running those countries have the opportunity to strike first, we lose NYC and they lose everything. Which is better?

By the way, I don't listen only to the US's anti-NK propaganda, I read about real experiences, and watch for myself:

Inside North Korea: the ultimate package tour | Travel | The Observer

Watch the reactions on the faces of the North Koreans.

YouTube - BabyVox in North Korea

Read up on your History. Goggle this guy named Adolf Hitler. He too was a nut-job who also had an issue with Jews.

There is a HUGE between Israel and Iran. Israel has Nuclear weapons for protection and is not run by extremist who wants to bring about the end of the world and the return of the 12th Imam.

If you have no idea what the 12th Imam is you should Google that as well. Pacifism is dangerous because pacifists often ignore history and the lessons learned.

buddy Iran is nothing like Nazi Germany...if that is where your trying to get...

and before defending Israel...why don't you take a look at how Palestinians are living....

If you think we can just start marching in Iran and blow S*it up think again...

You might want to come up with a better excuse to start a war with iran...

Hmmm. A fanatical leader who makes public speaches to throngs of 'cheering' citizens, builds a military, threatens neighbors and the region, preaches hate against the Jews, controls the people through military actions...

Doesn't sound anything like history to me <----sarcasm

Ahmadinejad needs to keep up the bad ass attitude...he can't just roll over for the west...and last I checked he was quite low in ratins among Iranians...

I just don't understand how you guys can expect Iran not pursue weapons in case they are attacked...US > Iraq US > Afghanistan gee if u were Iran what exactly would you do?? the heat is on :D

IMO once Israel and Palestine settle their differences Ahmadinejad will have absolutely nothing to go on...until then he is 'barking'

:rofl: Now that's funny. Nothing less than the total destruction of Israel will do for Ahmadinejad and the majority of citizens in Iran.

You're delusional to think Palestine and Israel can live in peace since they both want the same Rock. Israel won the war and the lines are drawn.

Iran and the rest of the Middle East needs to live with the consequences of the previous war. To the winner go the spoils.

Get over it and move on.

Thus the geat Santayanna quote

"Those who do not study history are bound to repeat it".

they are...their just building nukes ahaha

If you can't realize that attacking Iran would do more damage than good there is really nothing more I can say...

But I wouldn't mind the Israelis getting their hands dirty and bombing Iran...maybe they should start fighting their own wars since they have plenty of weapons available...no?

You don't get it...Israel has no desire to wipe Iran off the map because they hate Iran or Iranians. Iran and the Iranians Hates Jews and their leaders have on many occasions threatened to wipe Iran off the map just because.

Yes..Israel will do a preemptive strike against a threat. Iran has threatened Israel on many occasions which justifies that strike.

If Iran had no weapons of mass destruction and left them to live in the lands they currently occupy Israel would leave them alone.

please not the weapons of mass destruction again...

OK...We're done. Won't matter because Israel is going to take care of Iran and their threat regardless of what you or I think. Also, Our government will help them succeed quietly and the American people will support such a move.

If you think Iran is going to win with what they are saying and doing you picked the losing team.

Debate over.

unfortunately...

As for the American people...they know ...just about what they see in the media...

Unlike those Iranian people who know what they are told. I watch the evening news for the weather report.

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As a collective, yes.

Let's use another example from history. JFK did not back down to the Cubans / Russians and did not allow them to base nukes in Cuba. What if he had? Would the people in Miami feel good about having nukes aimed at them from 228 miles away? Hey, it's really none of our business, right? That is Cuba and they can do what they please.

Al Gore would have done the same as JFK, had he been president. There, back on topic!

I wanted to post something about Dannyell but where to start???? The guy is one of those blame America first crowd that will never believe in American Exceptionalism. Never in the history of the world has a country done so much good for the world. I thank God everyday I wake up in this country. For those of you who hate it so much and think those 'nut jobs' are just all talk, go over there and start protesting in their country... see what happens to you.

Im not blaming America...but our record with Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't quite make us the best choice to 'line up' Iran...

You must be speaking for Israel now ..since Iran is nowhere near US...

And right now the Russians are getting pissed since we are putting defense missiles in Romania...so do you expect them to allow it??

Well that is your solution, right? It's none of our business, so we should hide under a rock and hope nothing bad happens.

We should have let Hitler keep Europe, Allowed the Russians to base nukes in Cuba, let the Iranians build nukes, let the NK's build nukes with long range missles, let the Afgans handle the Taliban. Leave the Israelis to fight their own battles.

What a world...

ehh now your putting words in my mouth...

Sorry, didn't mean to do that. I just do not see the point of waiting until something bad happens to react. History has taught us over and over that when you allow a 'bad' guy to do as he pleases, he will push until you are the broken one. I would really like to see the US handle problems with common sense.

No Iraq war. Finish Afganistan. Take out the potential for nuclear weapon production in NK and Iraq. Bring our troops home and use the air force wherever trouble starts!

Without putting words in your mouth, please explain your solutions.

My solution towards this is exactly what is happening now. Hearing Russia a few days ago putting even more pressure on Iran put a smile on my face. IMO that is the only way to handle the situation before a possible invasion or air strike. Russia has stronger ties with Tehran than US...so it's only right they should have a big say into this whole situation.

I haven't said anything about crawling under a rock and wait...but to handle this with a strike won't bring any good in the long run.

As for N Korea...that country from a military and economic stand point they are nothing more than a blip...Eventually they will have to comply ...and rejoin negotiations to abandon nuclear ambitions for economic aid and such...

I have the solution to make us the best loved country in the world... STOP ALL aid to every country in the world including all military installations keeping peace though out the world and keeping other countries from having to spend on their own security. I guarantee withing a year or less (or first natural disaster, caused by global warming lol!!!!) they will come begging at our door on hands and knees for us to help them.

To make that work we would need to be energy independent. War would start in the Persian Gulf and oil would be $1000 per barrel, if you could get some.

I totally support the idea, but we'd have to have a lot of investment in wind, solar, wave energy systems first.

THEN we could all stop buying crap from Wal-Mart, and put China out of business and Americans back to work.

Shoot, we can be energy independent tomorrow if we wanted. We have more oil than the middle east. We have so many potential sources of energy, we wouldn't know were to start. I agree with that made in China crap. I try to avoid as much as I can.
We are the only ones to blame for everything made in China. Started in the 70s and 80s when we still had a choice. We used to have the same products side by side. Made in USA was more expensive and we chose the China shit. Little my little we lost our manufacturing.

+3 :thumbup: