Reactions to Barack Obama's long form birth certificate
 

President Obama's birth certificate -- the new, longer one -- has turned out to be just as fascinating to the world as his shorter one.

Soon after the White House released the president's long-form Hawaii birth certificate Wednesday morning, Twitter was abuzz with partisan jokes, barbs at "birthers" who have long denied that Obama was born in Hawaii, as well as endless amounts of ribbing at the expense of Donald Trump, who was one of the loudest critics of the short-form certificate.

"Now that we've seen his birth certificate, I want to see proof that President Obama is black," tweeted "Family Guy" creator Seth MacFarlane.

"Obama's response to the 'Birthers' is so calm, intelligent, well reasoned, and non-incendiary, he couldn't possibly have been born here," wrote comedienne Paula Poundstone.

Not all of the funniest tweets were appropriate to publish on a family website, but some were, and here they are.

Obama birth certificate creates a stir on Twitter | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

It only took his administration 3 years to forge it... that's pretty embarrassing :)

On a serious note, if it's been available since he ran for President, why not just produce it 3 years ago?

Why was it necessary to satisfy "birthers" ?
The proper legal documents were submitted 3 years ago. All of this was unnecessary and now it's egg on the faces of all those who wasted their time on this nonsense.

That was my question too. They sort of complied during the campaign by producing the short form so it wasn't as if they were absolutely against giving the issue any traction. Why it took so many years to produce it is strange. Why wasn't it produced when the short form was brought out? :dunno: It would have nipped the issue in the bud and not distracted from the important issues and work he had ahead of him.

Donald Trump is a attention seeking person. He is not a serious candidate.

I disagree.

The President of the US must be born in the US and prove it. If he's had this document since announcing his candidacy what was his motivation for not producing it? All that he's done is undermine people's support for him by creating an aura of "what does he have to hide?" by not being forthcoming. i'm sure that there are many people who were on the fence about supporting him and he just gave them an excuse to click the button for the other guy.

Why is Obama all of a sudden so forthcoming with the document just because Donald Trump demands it? As a citizen of the US, Trump can demand anything he wants of the President, as can any other citizen, but why now and why in response to Trump?

He already proved it and that proof was accepted by the United States Of America.
Hawaiian State officials verified his birth certificate and issued the proper documents.
Are people calling Hawaiian State officials liars for submitting the correct documents?
Seems to me that that people need to get their facts correct regarding this issue.
FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.

In the meantime let's move on and join with Donald Chump and request Obamas college records......:rofl:

Oh and BTW I have no idea what Obama's motive is but the birther issue and whatever is motivating it feels like a new low in American politics, particularly when you consider the extraordinary challenges facing this country and this president, that we would spend our time on stuff like that and attempts to marginalize this president.” Personally I believe there's something much different driving this issue.

I agree. But I personlly think it was with held for a strategic move. We all know every red neck will want to make a huge deal out of this rumor. So let them..... Let them make it the G.O.P. #1 complaint........ and once they have put so many eggs in that basket...... Crush them with undeniable proff.

Now they have nothing. Its like racing. If you can, save your pass for the last lap. They will have no time to regroup and try again.

"Today, I'm very proud of myself because I've accomplished something that nobody else has been able to accomplish," Trump told the gaggle of reporters at an airport hangar in Portsmouth. "I am really honored, frankly, to have played such a big role in hopefully getting rid of this issue." (at which point Trump jumps back and kisses himself.)

Next, Trump promised to examine the birth certificate personally. "We have to look at it. We have to see is it real? Is it proper? But I hope it checks out," he said. Now, Trump is saying that President Obama wasn't qualified to attend Columbia or Harvard. Getthefuggouttahere, Trump!

Trump is laughing all the way to the bank at your simple asses. What better way to promote yourself and your products than to push already debunked political conspiracy for free on all major cable news networks. Not to mention your own segment of Fox and Friends. The ratings for Celebrity Apprentice are through the roof.

Trump is an unfortunate mouthpiece right now. I don't think he commands much respect but he is commanding the attention right now.

I think Obama isn't coming out with the birth certificate now for the good of the country. Instead, I think it's as Jordo suggested but a bit reversed. He can play it up as a way to marginalize the extreme right that have chosen to use the "birther" issue as their foundation. It's as much for political gain as the "birthers" are using it for poltical purposes. He, and they, are politicians, after all.

I think there are plenty of other areas to criticize Obama than the birth issue. I hope that the "birther" issue doesn't take away from the legitimate bases to criticize Obama because it takes away credibility from those bases.

Since this issue has been characterized by some as a racial attack, may I ask whether it is acceptable or politically correct to refer to Obama as Caucasian or half-Caucausian? He is always referred to as "black" or "African American" but he is of mixed racial heritage but that seems to not be mentioned. Just curious....

You see, unfortunately, I am not black. There are lots of different kinds of blood in our family. But here in the United States, the word 'Negro' is used to mean anyone who has any Negro blood at all in his veins. In Africa, the word is more pure. It means all Negro, therefore black. I am brown.

~ Langston Hughes

‘One-drop rule’ persists | Harvard Gazette

Here's the best tweet so far from @TheOnion: "BREAKING: Trump Unable To Produce Certificate Proving He's Not A Festering Pile Of Shit". :rofl:

Interesting article. Indeed, there are and will continue to be more "mixed race" or "biracial" people as time goes on and perhaps as racial biases weaken. At some point there will be many people with virtually undiscernible racial classification.

The one part about a one-quarter Asian is more likely to be considered "white" over a one-quarter black person is interesting and that 50/50 mixes of Asian/white or black/white were almost never identified as white. My observation about Obama is that he is universally regarded as black with no mention of his mother's genetic heritage. It's just very interesting.

I'd settle for proof that the "hair" on his head is real.

"A stunning display of unchecked ego."
YouTube - Show Me Your Papers Negro

And while we're at it let's not be afraid to call it what it really is...
YouTube - The View Slams Donald Trump As Racist; Whoopi: 'I'm Playing The Damn Card Now'

Trump is a narcissistic megalomaniac who would do anything to get attention. I believe a vast majority of the birthers are racist and can not believe a black man actually became president. That fact is messing the basis of their racist belief. Obama is a wuss for actually producing the document. What he had produced was completely legal document enough to get US passport and was recognized as valid by people in charge of verifying his citizenship, end of story.

:rolleyes: Criticize the black President and get labeled a racist. :thumbup: awesome.

Where was Whoopy, Bill Cosby, Reverand Al and Reverand Jesse when the 2 black girls beat the crap out of the white "girl" in the McDonalds last week? it was clearly a racial attack wasn't it? 2 black girls beating up a white girl and shouting racial epithets? Another black employee not intervening?

I guess they're only interested in calling people racists when they're calling out white people. Go figure.

I think the difference may be that unfortunately, people beat up people all the time, and sometimes they are not of the same racial background. It isn't national news. So the failure to report on it nationally does not constitute support for the attack.

On the other hand, Donald Trump is engaged in sedition for personal gain.

Whether one supports Obama's policies or not, the birther attacks seem absurd from the sidelines here.

You and I are on the exact same wave lenth.

If this statement was true....

Criticize the black President and get labeled a racist.

You would be right. But thats not the case. Donald is taking a subject that was proven, and bringing it up to the people who are simple minded and venerable to this subject. He exploits them for his own gain.

That makes it diffrent.

But the statement was made, so it is true. Trump criticized Obama, and then whoopie and quicksilver both said he was a racist.

Also, Obama never released this long form before. So why didn't he release it back in the day and put this whole ridiculous thing to bed back then?

Racist attacks make national news all the time. And whenever it's white on black crime Al and Jesse come running. They seem to be conveniently absent when it's the other way around.

Trump is involved in gamesmanship to let it be known that he's running for President before he can formally announce it. He's no different than any Democrat, Republican or any other politician, they all suck.

:iagree: and we would have had some other entertaining criticism....e.g. proof for how Obama got into Harvard or his parents were Americans. Boring 3 years. :D

We could discuss Obama's grades at Columbia and how he somehow got into Harvard law if you like :)

Sure. I am tired of listening to same birth certificate crap. :D

Imo, it's all stir the pot, typical political bs...but wtfdik?

Most of the politicos lose sight of what 'matters' about 20 mins after they are elected, and spend most of their time turning over rocks looking for 'things to fix' that they can pound their chests about, back at the local voting ranch.

The 'system' ain't woikin', imo. And, it is not going to get OK, or better, or 'work' anytime soon.

Back at the DNA Ranch, I could not care less about a person's pigmentation, as long as that person isn't trying to fook me, or my Fam, or friends, over.

My mother's father was one half Oglala Sioux...my mother was one quarter Oglala Sioux; I am "1/8th", but I don't walk around suggesting I am Native American.

We all 'came' from somewhere, and we all are what we are. Obama is not 'black': he is 'medium brown' at best. And, 50% non-black, whatever the hell that all means.

I don't subscribe to a label of being 1/8 Nat American, 1/2 Scot-American, etc. You get the idea.

Back on track, Trump is smart and cagey, but I will buy dinner, if he "goes all the way", in the process of trying to be nominated...

We all are what we are. If anything has taught me that, it is from my nearly world wide travels carrying the bag, and meeting people of all kinds, via work and, meets from this Board.
GL, mD

There are 2 reasons

#1 He didn't need to.
He submitted the required form to those who needed to know so that he could be sworn in and take office. It was acceptable to them and it should be acceptable to us.

#2 YouTube - Show Me Your Papers Negro
Anyone that doesn't understand this doesn't understand this countries continuing history.

Seriously? You're saying that something that happened in 1899 (that's 112 years ago for the math impaired) is still being practiced by white Americans today and that's why Obama is being asked to prove he's a US resident? Wow. Absolutely incredible. (btw- the irony of the stereotyping an entire race of people is not lost here).

Insinuating that white Americans don't understand that racism still exists in this country is ridiculous. of course it does. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that in the last 100 years race relations in America has improved. We have a black president for crying out loud, he sure as hell didn't get elected by only black people voting for him.

Should Bush have cried racism every time Whoopie Goldberg criticized him? "Whoopie hates me because I'm a white man". Sounds ridiculous doesn't it? So does Whoopie for calling Trump a racist.

Regarding point #1, you can't dictate what is acceptable to other people just because it's acceptable to you.

Long form vs. short form birth cert:

In some states and countries, there are two types of birth certificates. A long-form birth certificate is the copy of the actual certificate of birth on file with the locality where the birth took place. The short-form birth certificate is a notarized document stating that the long form certificate exists and is on file.

Place of Birth
The long form of a birth certificate gives details as to whether the birth took place in a hospital, birthing facility or home. The short form does not have this information.



Read more: Long-Form Vs. Short-Form Birth Certificate | eHow.com Long-Form Vs. Short-Form Birth Certificate | eHow.com

That being said, how the hell did Obama get into Harvard Law with his poor grades at Columbia? (and before anyone cries racism, Bush was hammered over his grades at Yale for his entire Presidency)

Why does it say Welcome to Hawaii? And why is the Arabic script backwards, saying "Paul is Dead" And why is it in Arabic instead of Swahili?

snopes.com: Welcome to Kenya, Birthplace of Barack Obama

Come on, you can do better than that! :rofl:

I think you are the one trying to set new standards. The original document he produced was completely legal, acceptable by state of Hawaii, The federal government of USA, state department and election committee. The only people that did not accept it are the birthers. Plus, how ever he got in Harvard is probably more legit than how previous president got to Yale :rolleyes:
Fact of the matter is people should not have to resort to these kind of non-sense to debate a President....

I think there are probably two separate groups of birthers.

Firstly, there are those who honestly believe Obama was not born in the US. I am not sure there is any hope for them. Similar percentages (20%) believe that the moon landing was faked, that the sun revolves around the earth, that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, etc.

Secondly, there are those who don't like Obama and/or his policies, which is fair, but who are using the birthers, simply stirring the pot. The issue that the latter group needs to be cognizant of is that people get judged by the company they keep, rightly or wrongly. Trump is a smart guy, but by allying himself with the birthers he looks a fool to some of us, and a hero to others.

I think if Obama had held out until there was actually a presidential race, and then produced the long form certificate, he could have made the birthers look even more foolish. I guess he got tired of waiting.

^^^agreed

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~ Martin Luther King

Because its a photochop.

And now Trump is going to have to answer about his past:

Donald Trump dodged Vietnam War through medical deferment, not high draft number as he claimed

See? All politicians and prospective politicians suck.

Isn't Trump Tower covered in shiny glass? Donald ought not to be throwing any more stones, as they say.

Back the original issue though, I forgot about the fact that John McCain's citizenship was also questioned during the election since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone when his father was stationed there. I am bringing this up to show that not only Obama's citizenship status that has been questioned. Googling shows how many news organizations carried the story. These are just a sample.

McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out - New York Times

John McCain's Panama problem - War Room - Salon.com

McCain's citizenship called into question - Nightly News - msnbc.com

McCain's Panama birth prompts eligibility probe by his campaign - Times Online

Yep back the original issue. I guess this is not the reaction Trump expected.
I guess he didn't count on people digging thru the skeletons in his closet.
The link title is only the tip of the iceberg.....:D

Donald Trump Was Once Sued By Justice Department For Not Renting To Blacks

Edit: If your gonna bust somebody do it while their in the same room.

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