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Very interesting craigslist post about Obama...

I HATE how true this is......

Unfortunately, this may be accurate

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Obama will win. Why?
No Matter What
By Dr. Walter Williams

Can President Obama be defeated in 2012? No. He can't. I am going on record
as saying that President Barak Obama will win a second term. The media won't
tell you this because a good election campaign means hundreds of millions (or in
Obama's case billions) of dollars to them in advertising. But the truth is,
there simply are no conditions under which Barak Obama can be defeated in 2012.

The quality of the Republican candidate doesn't matter. Obama gets reelected.
Nine percent unemployment? No problem. Obama will win. Gas prices moving
toward five dollars a gallon? He still wins. The economy soars or goes into
the gutter. Obama wins. War in the Middle East? He wins a second term.
America's role as the leading Superpower disappears? Hurrah for Barak Obama!
The U.S. government rushes toward bankruptcy, the dollar continues to sink on
world markets and the price of daily goods and services soars due to inflation
fueled by Obama's extraordinary deficit spending? Obama wins handily.

You say "You are crazy Williams. Don't you understand how volatile politics can be when
overall economic, government, and world conditions are declining?" Sure I do.
And that's why I know Obama will win. The American people are notoriously
ignorant of economics. And economics is the key to why Obama should be
defeated. Even when Obama's policies lead the nation to final ruin, the
majority of the American people are going to believe the bait-and-switch tactics
Obama and his supporters in the media will use to explain why it isn't his
fault. After all, things were much worse than understood when he took office.

Obama's reelection is really a very, very simple math problem. Consider the
following:

1) Blacks will vote for Obama blindly. Period. Doesn't matter what he does.
It's a race thing. He's one of us,

2) College educated women will vote for Obama. Though they will be offended by
this, they swoon at his oratory. It's really not more complex than that,

3) Liberals will vote for Obama. He is their great hope,

4) Democrats will vote for Obama. He is the leader of their party and his
coattails will carry them to victory nationwide,

5) Hispanics will vote for Obama. He is the path to citizenship for those who
are illegal and Hispanic leaders recognize the political clout they carry in the
Democratic Party,

6) Union members will vote overwhelmingly for Obama. He is their key to money
and power in business, state and local politics,

7) Big Business will support Obama. They already have. He has almost $1
Billion dollars in his reelection purse gained largely from his connections with
Big Business and is gaining more everyday. Big Business loves Obama because he
gives them access to taxpayer money so long as they support his social and
political agenda,

8) The media love him. They may attack the people who work for him, but they
love him. After all, to not love him would be racist,

9) Most other minorities and special interest groups will vote for him. Oddly,
the overwhelming majority of Jews and Muslims will support him because they
won't vote Republican. American Indians will support him. Obviously
homosexuals tend to vote Democratic. And lastly,

10) Approximately half of independents will vote for Obama. And he doesn't need
anywhere near that number because he has all of the groups previously mentioned.
The President will win an overwhelming victory in 2012.
- Dr. Walter Williams

His Resume

Dr. Walter E. Williams holds a B.A. in economics from California State
University, Los Angeles, and M.A. and Ph.D. degrees in economics from UCLA. He
also holds a Doctor of Humane Letters from Virginia Union University and Grove
City College, Doctor of Laws from Washington and Jefferson College and Doctor
Honoris Causa en Ciencias Sociales from Universidad Francisco Marroquin, in
Guatemala, where he is also Professor Honorario.
Dr. Williams has served on the faculty of George Mason University in Fairfax,
Virginia, as John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics, since 1980; from
1995 to 2001, he served as department chairman. He has also served on the
faculties of Los Angeles City College, California State University Los Angeles,
and Temple University in Philadelphia, and Grove City College, Grove City, Pa.

At least we have republican control in congress for some "checks and balances".... imagine how out of control it would spin if we had full democratic control!

This is a very scary article, sadly, a lot of it is true.

So many people blindly vote and voted for BO, ironic because USA is probably the best educated country in the world; yet, so many people do not understand simple supply/demand, economics and finance. This is the real issue here--War isnt. No matter what leader is in place, war is inevitable..and really just part of life these days...

I am disgusted at how many Obama fans there are at my school. One of my "acquaintances" is a self proclaimed socialist, and a big obama fan. Finally, I got fed up and asked him a simple question, "out of all of Obama's policies, which three do you support most..?" His response was priceless, "Umm, you cant put me on the spot like that, ummmm, i..ummm...ummm, i cant do this right now, we only have like 5 minutes until the next class"

So i kept prying, and told him i just wanted simple answers, i even gave him my response on why i support the republican party in 20 seconds (obviously just simple things that i support), but he just couldnt answer the question..

I am going to go ahead and say that this is the same situation with most people who support BO...I've come across so many people who are ill-informed and obviously blinded by the media. Its sad, but true. I'm glad that we have some smart people in this world, Weasel!

Sorry........ Dr. Williams didn't write this

snopes.com: Dr. Walter Williams - No Matter What

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Originally Posted by Naz24 (Post 822231)

ironic because USA is probably the best educated country in the world;

I am disgusted at how many Obama fans there are at my school. One of my "acquaintances" is a self proclaimed socialist, and a big obama fan. Finally, I got fed up and asked him a simple question, "out of all of Obama's policies, which three do you support most..?" His response was priceless, "Umm, you cant put me on the spot like that, ummmm, i..ummm...ummm, i cant do this right now, we only have like 5 minutes until the next class"

So i kept prying, and told him i just wanted simple answers, i even gave him my response on why i support the republican party in 20 seconds (obviously just simple things that i support), but he just couldnt answer the question..

I am going to go ahead and say that this is the same situation with most people who support BO...I've come across so many people who are ill-informed and obviously blinded by the media. Its sad, but true. I'm glad that we have some smart people in this world, Weasel!

No irony there...USA is not the most educated country in the world.

As for your 'acquaintance' there are many like him on both sides of the political aisle. Right now probably more for Obama, why? because more people voted for him. The same thing will happen in the next election regardless of who wins. People just watch to much tv to see who they'll vote for...

It's some bull crap, that's what it is.

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Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 822222)

I HATE how true this is......

Unfortunately, this may be accurate

At least we have republican control in congress for some "checks and balances".... imagine how out of control it would spin if we had full democratic control!

When I get home from work today I will shread almost every statment made here. I will back it up with web site links that end in .org not .com I lost count as to how many of these things are OUT RIGHT WRONG, and boarder line lie.

I find it histarical that people on "that side of the fence" think we are the mislead ones....

AND FYI, Dems, DID HAVE CONGRESS! Did they dictate and run it into the ground? NO! They pussed out and tried to let the GOP have a say.... And all the did was be a wrench in the gear. Zero progress.

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Originally Posted by Jordo (Post 822272)

AND FYI, Dems, DID HAVE CONGRESS! Did they dictate and run it into the ground? NO! They pussed out and tried to let the GOP have a say.... And all the did was be a wrench in the gear. Zero progress.

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Originally Posted by Dannyell (Post 822273)

+2.

Once again folks, the information supposedly written by Dr. Willams is bogus and therefore has no basis in fact. So arguing points based on it "IMO" are pointless.

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/RiteOn.orgApology.pdf

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 822302)

Whoever wrote it still makes some good points. Just because "Dr. Williams" didn't doesnt really effect me. It could have been straight from weasel, and i would still agree with some of the points made, even though he may not be an "expert" in the field

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Originally Posted by Naz24 (Post 822307)

What!?!?!? You can't be seroius.

That entire document, rant, what ever you wanna call it is claiming facts. That all "blacks" will vote for Obama, (like they are too stupid to think for them self) that is the most ridiculous statement I have hear in a long time. To say all women will blindly vote for him too. ALL OF WHICH IS COMPLETELY DISCUSTING STATMENT.

So my point is, this was ment to be a from some one who would know these facts. Clearly they are bogus, but the credibility of every word in there is out the window.

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 822263)

Sorry........ Dr. Williams didn't write this

snopes.com: Dr. Walter Williams - No Matter What

Thanks QS. No surprise there. With the misspelled Barack's, there is no way that was written by someone with a PhD...

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Originally Posted by Jordo (Post 822313)

i didnt say all the points made were politically correct or even correct in general. I meant i agree with SOME of the points.. not all. I agree, there are some racist and ridiculous remarks in that

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver (Post 822263)

Sorry........ Dr. Williams didn't write this

snopes.com: Dr. Walter Williams - No Matter What

I honestly have no clue who Dr. Williams is, and they could have said this was written by whoever poisoned us with the Twilight books and it would have came across the same to me... Odd that they didn't even find the correct author yet though huh?

And calm down a little Jordo, that whole thing is filled with vast generalizations which are NEVER fully accurate. HOWEVER, if you substitute wherever they put "all" with "the vast majority" then it will be more accurately worded.

I wish I could find more people that are less polarized politically.... I have yet to find anybody that isn't 100% for or against Obama. Anybody I've seen voice as for Obama agrees with everything he does as if he's done no wrong, and anyone against Obama never agrees that anything he did was good or even decent. THIS is one of the problems with politics today, hardcore polarity.

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Originally Posted by Jordo (Post 822313)

Personally, I don't view them as professions of fact but simply as opinions. It's like an editorial. The validity and veracity of each statement can be debated for sure as with all opinions and editorials, there is always another side.

There are absolutely some over generalizations and things that come across as not politically correct but there are some very valid point. Just my opinion.... Don't call me an idiot. :nanana:

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Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 822429)

Your right. Got a little excited there, huh?

I would like to mention that I hope that even tho we may disagree on a few topics in this subject..... I will not let that effect are "on-line" relationship/friendship. (as corny as that sounds) I hope we allfeel that way.

:thumbup:

Yeah, the political discussions always tend to get heated on here (and anywhere else really) but on any other subsection of the forum it is good as always. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Jordo (Post 822468)

Agreed! Always enjoyed your company on the other parts of the forum Jordo! ( another corny line) haha

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Originally Posted by Weasel (Post 822429)

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I wish I could find more people that are less polarized politically.... I have yet to find anybody that isn't 100% for or against Obama. Anybody I've seen voice as for Obama agrees with everything he does as if he's done no wrong, and anyone against Obama never agrees that anything he did was good or even decent. THIS is one of the problems with politics today, hardcore polarity.

Let me go to the front of that line: I am not a huge fan of his, but he is intelligent, and like everyone who is elected to that job, trying to make the right decisions. However, the entire 'system' has become so convoluted and a self-sustaining juggernaut, that an Einstein/Houdini combo would have a difficult time, imo.

I would like to see people, (of either gender), get elected to Prez and more of the Congress, that have actually done 'work', made the quarterly numbers, sold something, have a trade, etc., as opposed to mostly barristers and up through the rank politicos...

The venom in this country, mostly politically charged, is quite disconcerting, as is the lack of really getting anything 'done' or 'improved', imo.

But, I am neither a Fanboi of Obama, or a hater of him...
GL, mD

PS: back at the CommonSenseRanch, the quantity of drivel/inaccurate and pure BS email 'uncoverings' that float around the web is extraordinary.
And, not defending Obama or Dems, but the majority I get from my uniformed 'conservative' Geezer friends are baseless and moronic...I always ask them who "they would want" as Prez tomorrow; their responses are laughable, and purely emotional and idealistic, imo.

Once again motordavid proves himself a reputable force in common sense... keep on keepin' on!

Thanks for the kind words, Weasel...
I am just weary of 'politics' and its lack of real innovation or improvement for the system(s) we have in place, and the deterioration of the country, fiscally and in terms of addressing what needs to get done.

No PoliSci major, but the venom flowing, coupled with the media attention on trifles vs some of the real 'issues' that few will take the time to read about or respond to, is disheartening. Today, most get their 'news & views' from 1-3 sentence capsules, and think 'that's interesting' or, 'who cares; it doesn't affect me.'

Somewhere along the line, the bureaucrats have taken over the interpretation and implementation of what the lawmakers do...Maggie's Farm.

GL, mD