No Privacy In Affordable Care Act
 

Don't know if anyone caught John McAfee's comments about the security of the healthcare dot gov website, but he figures up to 40 million identities will be compromised by the time enrollment is complete.

This video is just coming out now from an October Congressional hear where Joe Barton finds the "fine print" indicating you have no reasonable expectation that your personal information will be secure in the government's healthcare database.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOk0vOup4yA


People need to go to jail for this....Looks like McAfee could be right.

It's a nightmare, from conception to arm wrestling/lobbying, the huge bill that few on the planet have read in its entirety, to rollout and 'the site'.

I have looked in on the site, simply curious if my CEO's current North Carolina Major Med BC/BS cost would/could be reduced, but backed out and left: one has to put in complete data on the potential insured, to get a quote or ref.

It's like Amazon asking for your CC and SS#s while you peruse their stuff for sale. NFW...

I am on Medicare; that site and the SS site is very secure. The ACA site, not so much.

Hope you all have reg health ins through your employer...
GL, mD

You have no reasonable expectation that your personal information will be secure.
Famous Words of Google and every other company the deploys IT as I recall.
It's a brave new world and it might be better to be homeless..

I have every expectation and RIGHT to divulge what I deem appropriate. That is why I am the get off my damn lawn man of social media. (put virtually nothing out there) hate FB, Twitter etc.

This is what the people voted for. Welcome to it! :bustingup

What did the MORONS who voted for this expect?

Just walk into a hospital/Dr office/treatment center and everything is affordable/free?

I REFUSE to put ANY personal data into the Obamacare site!

hahaha... lets not throw away the baby with the birth water... is it how the saying goes?... I totally agree that the execution of this act is probably giving the comedy Central script writer material for the next 100 years!!!... but we, as mankind, had witnessed many other social experiments that had very good ideas but were ruined by incompetent execution or plain corruption... Some of you may have read Karl Marx, Fridrich Engels, even Lenin... The ideas expressed in their works was phenomenal... free education... free medical care... however, in the developed industrial countries we somehow managed to fall behind the ball... we established the "communist" bubble for very select few (read - Senate, Congress and surrounding entities), "an advanced stage of socialism" for our military, where the members of the military are given a certain amount towards "free" education and the healthcare is heavily subsidized... unfortunately, the majority of the population was left out of this "communist" bubble - you have to pay for your education, for medical... i have lived in the countries where the education and the medical services are free - if you don't like going to public school or public medical office - pay up for private care... some things should be provided by the society, like the law enforcement and protection (in most countries the cops are protectors against crooks, not enforcers of the policy - there is a difference), and if you can afford private bodyguards, sure, go for it... I truly believe that Bill Gates can get same hemorrhoids in his a$$, just like i can get it in mine... and he should be able to walk into free clinic and have it taken care of... now, if he chooses to use a private doctor, it is up to his wallet, but the society allows him to use the public services...

now, about the execution of this act... this is a joke... i really think that with so many computer experts out there, we could have had a better enrollment process... and that is even before the actual usage of those benefits... lol...

I think we need to get the pharmaceutical lobby out of DC - i have bought a medicine for myself while overseas, $5 for 20 pills... no prescription needed, that medicine has been around for last 2000 years or so... here in the US, i have to go to a doctor (ka-ching$$$), who writes out a prescription, i take it to a pharmacy, which fills it for me and charges me a copay of $15 for 20 pills... because a US company managed to patent the 2000 year old recipe. same company is not allowed to sell that same drug for more than $5 overseas... so, they just fleece america... not patriotic!!!

ACA is a govt take over of health insurance, period. All of you that defended blobama and his communist push for power should be proud. Congrats! You gave away your liberty! :thumbup:


More destruction:

5 Disasters Yet To Come With Obamacare - John Hawkins - Page full

Our liberty was taken from us in 1913, when the IRS was allowed to collect taxes... We just bent over and let them have it their way with us... 100 years later is a bit too late to complain that they are gropping us - we are long past that mile marker...

Ah, so sit around and do nothing since you believe it's old news, yes?

We don't need Voter ID cards in the USA........we need Voter IQ cards!

Saw Leno last week, he went out on the street to interview smug, know-it-all 20something college grads on general knowledge. Asked a woman if she knew who the VP of the US was.....she had no idea! Explained he would be president if something were to happen to Obama....still no idea. Showed her an 8x10 pic of Biden......no idea. Told her his name is Joe Bi---, finish the last name.....NO IDEA!

Asked her who made a vid swinging on a wrecking ball....she instantly responds Mylie Cyrus! :(

I weep for the future of this country.

there was an old joke, and i am not sure if i can tell it the right way.. but it goes something like this:

a nice looking lady is sitting at a bar, having her cocktail... a fellow sits next to her and strikes a conversation... after a bit, he is like, you are so good looking, blah-blah-blah, i will give you a million bucks to !@#$ you... she is like, oh my God, that is crazy... but... a million is a million.. so, she says ok... after having couple more drinks, he is like - you know, a million is a lot of money for a piece of @$$, how about a half a mil... she is like, ok.. few more drinks - the number drops into simple thousands... at the end, before leaving the bar, he says, you know what honey, I am going to pay you a hundred bucks... at which point, she is all upset and she is like - i am not a whore to do it for $100!!! his response? Well honey, we already established WHO you are, now we are haggling over the price...

my point is - so many wrongs had been done by us since even before the IRS establishment, that at this point pretending that we have any liberties is just ludicrous...

Even the voting... why are we, as the PEOPLE, not trusted with DIRECT elections of the president? are we not educated enough to make a decision? some funky country in africa has direct elections and we have buffers where the "aristocrats" make decisions for "plebes"...

or, the monitoring of the americans in the name of the greater safety and security.... i need to google this, but wasn't it one of the US presidents who said that if we sacrifice our freedoms in the name of security, we deserve neither?...

At this point, the last worry is the obamacare... i would say the biggest worry is the INSURANCE institute as a whole that we have built - because of the insurance payouts, we have the most litigious society out there... because the insurance companies do not wish to make those payouts, a lot of people can not insure things... you have to clean up the snow in front of your house... I have to do jack - the snow came from God, it will melt when the sun comes out!!! the doctors in pennsylvania either leaving the state or quit the profession altogether - two primary care docs that i had, quit their private practice... as they told the patients, the insurance coverage for malpractice was too high for them to stay in business... the insurance investigators are more thorough than the cops or FBI... The reason lawyers can sue McD for spilled coffee, because the McD has insurance policies that will pay out..

And i really believe that the insurance industry is an evil child of communism - "from everyone a little bit that they can afford, and to everyone as they need"... this is the main communist principle... and this is how the insurance companies operate - look at the roots of their operations, go back 300-400 years, when the Lloyds of London was born in late 1600-s... spread the risks... I have a benefit (or, rather a disadvantage) of studying Soviet Law, Soviet Enterprising and other Soviet bull$shit subjects in my college, and i can tell you - the worst iteration of the communism is happening here, in the US... and the Big Brother is just a cherry on top!!!...

If i did not love my country with all its faults and blessings, i'd probably run and hide somewhere on a tropical island... :nanana:

What TiAgX5 said, in his anecdote...
Since many of the population gets its 'news' from Yahoo, OMG!, et al, and 'reading' is limited to what one sees on FB/Twitter, et al, the informed hoi polloi is an oxymoron, imo.

Back at the Elected Geniuses Ranch, there are few elected that I would hire to help me wash one of my cars, let alone introduce, 'write' or pass the plethora of worthless and overwritten legislation of the past several decades.

I cannot think of any current politician that would make a good prez, let alone be a good elected official at any level.

We are clueless as a group, and nearly completely unempowered.

It was Ben Franklin TermX5.

"In 1755 (Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, Tue, Nov 11, 1755), Franklin wrote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

This phrasing was also the motto in Historical Review of Pennsylvania, attributed to Franklin

It's important to note that this sentiment, with many variations, was much used in the Revolutionary period by Franklin and others."

Kind of ironic this phrase was "much used" in the Revolutionary period!

This^^^^^^

No comment on health care or insurance.

But on the subject of the (un)informed population, I would just comment that it isn't just a US thing. One of the sites I frequent did an exercise to ask US and British citizens to label a map of each other's part of the world. See the link for more examples. Results were pretty good.

Link here:

This is What Happens When Americans are Asked to Label Europe and Brits are Asked to Label the US «TwistedSifter

They mis-spelled Flor-DUH! Florida is the old spelling.

Soon the plates there will read "The Freakshow State"