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LeMansX5 10-14-2011 08:55 PM

Exhaust Comparison: Akrapovic vs. Dinan vs. Eisenmann
 
Starting this thread as discussion from another thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLMD X5M (Post 847119)
Still gonna lightly smoke the rear lights and reflectors, and ordering the Dinan Exhaust next week. Does anybody have one installed? Im trying to get pics and a sound clip if possible...

ohh, and a nice set of L.E.D. curb feelers! :rofl: (jk)

T

Have you heard sound comparison of Dinan vs. Eisenmann vs Akrapovic?

I have heard Eisenmann and Akrapovic, and like the Akrapovic.

stlcity 10-15-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLMD X5M (Post 847119)
I used H&R lowering kit, cut an extra coil off the front, shaved down all bump stops on the shocks (front and back), my buddy owns Industrial Motoring in Anahiem, Ca. We did it their.

Still gonna lightly smoke the rear lights and reflectors, and ordering the Dinan Exhaust next week. Does anybody have one installed? Im trying to get pics and a sound clip if possible...

ohh, and a nice set of L.E.D. curb feelers! :rofl: (jk)

T


Nice ride..congrats

here is the thread about the dinan free flow exhaust from another forum. Was researching Dinan last week and came accross this thread:

Dinan High Perf Free Flow exhaust install - XBimmers.com | BMW X6 Forum X5 Forum

Will probably do it once spring hits here in the northeast....;).

stlcity 10-15-2011 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 847123)
Have you heard sound comparison of Dinan vs. Eisenmann vs Akrapovic?

I have heard Eisenmann and Akrapovic, and like the Akrapovic.

LeMans why are the three priced so differently? The Akrapovic system is quite a few grand more than the Dinan...thanks.

998M 10-15-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcity (Post 847182)
LeMans why are the three priced so differently? The Akrapovic system is quite a few grand more than the Dinan...thanks.


Akrapovic is titanium.

LeMansX5 10-16-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcity (Post 847182)
LeMans why are the three priced so differently? The Akrapovic system is quite a few grand more than the Dinan...thanks.

Loaded question, so here is the answer.
In brief, What you pay is what you get(no offense).

I have Eisenmann Race exhaust on one of my BMWs and I have closely examined and heard Dinan and Akrapovic on few occasions. Akrapovic just stands out in comparison to others.

If you look at construction of three, Akrapovic is the most detailed and intricate, with better material(Titanium), workmanship and quality. Dinan is the cheapest looking of three. ;)
Akrapovic is the lightest of three. Dinan for some reason does not state the weight of their exhaust, but is unofficially known to be heaviest.
Akrapovic is biggest setup(see pics below) and they also proivides the detailed information about their exhaust.

See pics and videos of 3 below.

You can get better than list prices on Eisenmann and Akrapovic.
Best comparison is seeing and hearing the three in person. I am getting Akrapovic next time. ;)
BMW also uses Akrapovic on their Safety cars...see videos below.

Comparison chart:

----------------HP Gain----------Torque (Nm)---------------------------Weight (lbs)
Akrapovic ------11---------------11 lb-ft (15Nm) @ 2,270 rpm ----------50.7
Eisenmann-----14(Unofficial)--------?----------------------------------------53.2
Dinan--------------8 -----------------7 lb-ft @6000 rpm ------------------------?
Stock -----------------------------------------------------------------------------103



Dinan

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/...6c3294f3_z.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6070/...842008f0_z.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6203/...37d6838a_z.jpg

This is X6 50i video...No Video of Dinan on X5M found.



Eisenamann

http://www.ind-distribution.com/ezst...xhaust_bmw.jpg
http://www.ind-distribution.com/ezst...ar_exhaust.jpg





Welcome to Eisenmann North America
Eisenmann power gains - Eisenmann BMW E92 M3 Dyno Day


Akrapovic

http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/e...s_podpisom.jpg
http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/e...s_podpisom.jpg
http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/e...plete_evo_.jpg



http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/e.../m_bm_t_1h.pdf

Akrapovic on BMW Safety cars

1M coupe Safety car


F10 M5 Safety Car

4.6is Ryder 10-16-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcity (Post 847182)
LeMans why are the three priced so differently? The Akrapovic system is quite a few grand more than the Dinan...thanks.

If these are set up the same way as they are for the ///M3, Akra is priced for a full system where as the others are slip on's. For the ///M3 once you add the mid-pipe you are fairly close in price........Phil

stlcity 10-16-2011 05:20 PM

Thanks LeMans for starting this thread..The pics explain them all..:D

Sorry for the noob questions: catless downpipes refer to system without catalytic converters? I did read somewhere that there is a slight improvement in performance with the catless downpipes. Is it legal not to have catalytic converters?

Thanks in advance.

4.6is Ryder 10-16-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcity (Post 847293)
Thanks LeMans for starting this thread..The pics explain them all..:D

Sorry for the noob questions: catless downpipes refer to system without catalytic converters? I did read somewhere that there is a slight improvement in performance with the catless downpipes. Is it legal not to have catalytic converters?

Thanks in advance.

Not legal and in most states it won't pass inspection........Phil

northern2020 10-20-2011 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 847263)
Loaded question, so here is the answer.
In brief, What you pay is what you get(no offense).

I have Eisenmann Race exhaust on one of my BMWs and I have closely examined and heard Dinan and Akrapovic on few occasions. Akrapovic just stands out in comparison to others.

If you look at construction of three, Akrapovic is the most detailed and intricate, with better material(Titanium), workmanship and quality. Dinan is the cheapest looking of three. ;)
Akrapovic is the lightest of three. Dinan for some reason does not state the weight of their exhaust, but is unofficially known to be heaviest.
Akrapovic is biggest setup(see pics below) and they also proivides the detailed information about their exhaust.

See pics and videos of 3 below.

You can get better than list prices on Eisenmann and Akrapovic.
Best comparison is seeing and hearing the three in person. I am getting Akrapovic next time. ;)
BMW also uses Akrapovic on their Safety cars...see videos below.

Comparison chart:

----------------HP Gain----------Torque (Nm)---------------------------Weight (lbs)
Akrapovic ------11---------------11 lb-ft (15Nm) @ 2,270 rpm ----------50.7
Eisenmann-----14(Unofficial)--------?----------------------------------------53.2
Dinan--------------8 -----------------7 lb-ft @6000 rpm ------------------------?
Stock -----------------------------------------------------------------------------103



Dinan

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6194/...6c3294f3_z.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6070/...842008f0_z.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6203/...37d6838a_z.jpg

This is X6 50i video...No Video of Dinan on X5M found.



Eisenamann

http://www.ind-distribution.com/ezst...xhaust_bmw.jpg
http://www.ind-distribution.com/ezst...ar_exhaust.jpg




Welcome to Eisenmann North America
Eisenmann power gains - Eisenmann BMW E92 M3 Dyno Day


Akrapovic

http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/e...s_podpisom.jpg
http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/e...s_podpisom.jpg
http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/e...plete_evo_.jpg



http://www.akrapovic.com/typo3conf/e.../m_bm_t_1h.pdf

Akrapovic on BMW Safety cars

1M coupe Safety car


F10 M5 Safety Car

Where can you get better than list pricing on the full Akra?

stlcity 10-20-2011 08:05 AM

+1...on list price of Akra....

Defib 10-21-2011 06:42 PM

+2 on the Akrapovic. I've been looking around but no one wants to budge on price.

iMpower 10-31-2011 09:10 PM

Quality wise Akrapovic definately looks like a high quality craftsmanship, and the fact the BMW uses it too, that's a plus.

Like was mentioned before, you get what you pay for.

LeMansX5 11-03-2011 07:17 PM




stlcity 11-03-2011 07:23 PM

Sounds good..noob q though: why does it sound that it is sputtering towards the middle of the video?

iMpower 11-03-2011 07:31 PM

sounds awesome!

how does it sound during regular, city driving? barely louder than stock?

Forster 11-04-2011 10:45 AM

I feel as if none of these online videos do any justice for these exhaust systems... I mean the videos don't sound bad at all, however, in person its so much more amazing! Full Akra is awesome and top notch esp with that price :/
Def need an exhaust just don't know which one to pull the trigger on.

iMpower 11-04-2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forster (Post 850213)
I feel as if none of these online videos do any justice for these exhaust systems... I mean the videos don't sound bad at all, however, in person its so much more amazing! Full Akra is awesome and top notch esp with that price :/
Def need an exhaust just don't know which one to pull the trigger on.


Might as well go with Akrapovic. I looked at their instruction pdf file, step by step with pictures. Definately looks like a high quality product with great support and instructions. :thumbup:

LeMansX5 01-24-2012 12:20 AM

New M5 safety car with Akrapovic exhaust at Welt


IGotId 01-31-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcity (Post 847293)
Thanks LeMans for starting this thread..The pics explain them all..:D

Sorry for the noob questions: catless downpipes refer to system without catalytic converters? I did read somewhere that there is a slight improvement in performance with the catless downpipes. Is it legal not to have catalytic converters?

Thanks in advance.

sorry for the noobier question!;) is akrapovic catless?

LeMansX5 02-01-2012 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IGotId (Post 864128)
sorry for the noobier question!;) is akrapovic catless?

If you add the downpipes....track rated in US

Evolution exhaust system for the BMW X5 M (E70) - Akrapovi

LeMansX5 04-19-2012 12:47 AM

Eisenmann Race on F10 M5


GmoneyLI 04-30-2012 07:20 PM

I heard an eisenmann race exhaust yesterday and an akropovic and the eisenmann sounded way more bad ass

LeMansX5 04-30-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GmoneyLI (Post 876230)
I heard an eisenmann race exhaust yesterday and an akropovic and the eisenmann sounded way more bad ass

On what car?

GmoneyLI 04-30-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 876236)
On what car?

X6m and an m5

X5X 05-01-2012 12:35 PM

^ depends on the Model, not just exhaust.

LeMansX5 05-01-2012 05:05 PM

You have to listen Akra and Eisenmann on same model. Stock F10 M5 vs stock X5 M is big difference. Stock F10 M5 is much louder.

E60 M5 is NA V10 engine and totally different beast and can't compare to TT X5 M or F10 M5.

northern2020 05-09-2012 10:33 PM

Got my Akra catless Dp's and Akra Evo exhaust with black carbon tips + ESS catless tune... Install is in 10 days!!

LeMansX5 07-16-2012 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northern2020 (Post 877421)
Got my Akra catless Dp's and Akra Evo exhaust with black carbon tips + ESS catless tune... Install is in 10 days!!

Any video of your install?

LeMansX5 07-16-2012 12:39 AM

New M6 with Akrapovic

X5X 07-16-2012 09:00 AM

:wow:

northern2020 07-26-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 886174)
Any video of your install?

I will try I upload a few YouTube clips..but no "install" videos.

I'm extremely happy with the setup.

It can be as quiet as stock or if there is a crowd on the street I can gun it and it induces involuntary urination in the masses.

LeMansX5 07-26-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northern2020 (Post 888149)
I will try I upload a few YouTube clips..but no "install" videos.

I meant the video or sound clips. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by northern2020 (Post 888149)
It can be as quiet as stock or if there is a crowd on the street I can gun it and it induces involuntary urination in the masses.

:rofl:

LeMansX5 07-30-2012 05:13 PM

New Akra video of M5


LeMansX5 07-30-2012 05:22 PM

M5 with Eisenmann


X5MStorm 09-03-2012 02:35 AM

Akrapovic Evo exhaust with downpipes
 
I recently added the Akrapovic downpipes to my evo exhaust and did a MCChip retune.

Chiptuning, Eco-Optimierung und Motorsportabstimmungen für PKW, LKW und Nutzfahrzeuge. Chiptuning der neuesten Generation - mcchip-dkr.com

No errors and no backfiring. The flow is so good you can hear the whistle of the turbos out the back, which I found annoying at first but I'm now getting used to. The note is loud but not as deep as I had hoped for, nevertheless it really screams when I open it up. We put the car on the hub dyno and got a bit of a light show:

BMW X5M on Hub Dyno Blowing Out Flames - YouTube

LeMansX5 09-22-2012 08:17 PM


talon98 10-24-2013 10:35 PM

i find the whistle a little annoying...i have vigilant hearing and am neurotic about going deaf from the noise! with the car in power mode and fully in race mode with the windows down, your ears will definitely get some sonic exercise!


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