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bmwfirst 10-30-2009 08:56 PM

X3 BMW portable Nav System
 
Does any one know what brand of nav to suit my x3? Can I buy from ebay?

Mentat 11-04-2009 11:21 AM

BMW Updates 2009 X3 Accessories Range - autoevolution

http://www.autoevolution.com/images/...ge-10667_1.jpg

http://bmw.com.au/com/en/owners/acce...cessoryfinder/

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BMW Portable navigation system Plus

Fits in your pocket, and designed for use both in and outside the car. The high-resolution 4.3-inch touch screen display offers 2D and 3D map views.The device is packed with features such as a USB connection and an MP3 player. It slots into a special mounting in the dashboard, which also recharges its battery.
Ask for it @ BMW dealer.

It's a Garmin system that plugs in the existing audio instalation.
It's portable and it fits well.

sna77 11-20-2009 01:46 AM

tons of good info on it here. The bracket can be had for $50 and it fits a standard Garmin. ;)
OEM Navigation Portable Plus / Pro - Anyone seen it? - bimmerfest - BMW Forums

bmwfirst 11-21-2009 04:32 AM

I have checked with BMW dealer and it cost $980. Too much

sna77 11-21-2009 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwfirst (Post 682798)
I have checked with BMW dealer and it cost $980. Too much

If you looked at the link I just posted, you would find:

- the bracket is $65. The part # is included and you can order that online or at the dealer's parts department.
- the bracket fits and Garmin GPS. Yes, even the cheap $200 Garmins at the store.

You can do this setup very cheap...

GPS Install Kit, part #: 65900445996



http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3pronav/x3screen4.jpg



According, to this article, the unit is just a Garmin 760.
Garmin Decks Out BMW, nuvi Style - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews


Which is $235 on Amazon.
Amazon.com: Garmin nüvi 760 4.3-Inch Widescreen Bluetooth Portable GPS Automobile Navigator: Electronics


You can retrofit this yourself for $310. If you already own a Garmin, you can do it even cheaper. My old nuvi 670 and 200w fit just fine...

sna77 11-21-2009 08:12 AM

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3garmin2.jpg

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/x3garmin3.jpg

sna77 11-21-2009 08:13 AM

here's a nuvi 255w installed:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...8&d=1246579376

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...7&d=1246665781

ajiva 09-25-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sna77 (Post 682815)

How did you get that USB connector there? Thanks

sna77 09-25-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ajiva (Post 770963)
How did you get that USB connector there? Thanks


Just hard wire one of these behind the dash:
Amazon.com: Eforcity's Universal USB Car Charger Adapter: Electronics

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

If your Garmin has a USB to DC adapter already, you could just hard wire that also...

ajiva 09-25-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sna77 (Post 770967)

Any DYI guides on that?

Bora20 09-26-2010 04:49 PM

Does the Nuvi audio come through the vehicles speakers or does it come out of the unit itself?

I have a Zumo 550 and I think that it would work well in this case, along with the motorcycle installation kit to allow it to be hardwired into place.

2k328ci 11-02-2010 11:21 PM

Any guides that tell me how to take the dash apart and where to hardwire the power adapter into? I notice the BMW mount has a wiring harness, is that standard mini-usb power to any GPS? Is there power where ever that harness clips into?

I'd like to hardwire a USB power-adapter behind the dash like the built-in mount, but have the mini-usb come out left of the console where my GPS is tucked in between the cluster hump and the A-pillar (I need the storage bin - center storage is too valuable to loose to the GPS for me).

ngcreese 11-04-2010 11:23 AM

I bought the dash center peace with the Garmin ball and a Nuvi 3790T.

Dremeled a small hole under the ball, so that the power adapter plug could be passed through. The hole ends up being bigger that the wire itself, due to the plug head. I used rubber gromets to fix that.

For the 3790t, the power plug, plugs into the cradle. The cradle then supplies power to the Nuvi. The cradle also uses power to run the cradle's built in speaker.

Although extremely clean, the biggest drawback to running the power cable under the dash is the reduction in traffic info reception. This really only matters if you live out in the country. When I'm on the DC beltway, traffic info comes in just fine. I haven't gone back in to see what I can do to fix it.

My thought is, I currently have the power cable bundled up, I'll want to unbundle it and string it out as much as possible.

Audio does not go through the car's sound system. However, with the Nuvi cradles's amplified speaker, directions come through LOUD and clear. I think my volume is currently set to 30%.

As far as power is concerned, I got a cigarette lighter socket with inline fuse and some wire splice connectors. Looked up the Radio wiring diagram, and spliced the socket to the switched power and ground wires.
Hope this info helps.

2k328ci 11-04-2010 01:01 PM

Thanks,

What kind of socket with inline fuse? Is this something I can find at a hardware store?

How did you take the dash apart?

Where did you get the radio wiring diagram?

Thanks.

ngcreese 11-04-2010 03:36 PM

Cigarette Lighter Socket
12V DC Motorcycle Power Socket(cigarette lighter socket) products, buy 12V DC Motorcycle Power Socket(cigarette lighter socket) products from alibaba.com

BMW X3 Radio Removal -- Google Search
Let me google that for you
In short, the center vents "pop" off.
Remove the hot/cold dial's cable.
There are a couple screws holding the center dash and radio in place.
Careful not to drop any screws into the dash.
The install videos from BSW, on youtube are pretty good at guiding you through this process.

BMW X3 Radio Wiring Diagram -- Google Search
Let me google that for you
You're looking for the color of the 12V switched wire & ground wires going to the back of the radio.


These links should help.
It's a really fun / easy project to do. Hope it turns out nicely for you!

...Enojoy

2k328ci 11-04-2010 09:41 PM

Thanks so much! It almost makes me brave enough to try it. I really appreciate it. I think this will be my spring project (as I don't have a garage for the winter).

I'm bookmarking these instructions!

Thanks again!

ngcreese 11-05-2010 11:58 AM

Cool!

Well, here's some pics of what the setup looks like...
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_g1En8RAqtZo/TN...0/IMAG0126.jpg
When you use the 12V switched power wire, the Nuvi will turn on and off by itself. It's internal battery will charge while the car is switched on. And of course, you won't run the risk of forgetting to turn off the Nuvi and drain your car's battery.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_g1En8RAqtZo/TN...0/IMAG0125.jpg


http://lh5.ggpht.com/_g1En8RAqtZo/TN...0/IMAG0127.jpg
If you feel the urge, you can detach the Nuvi, and leave the cradle in place.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_g1En8RAqtZo/TN...0/IMAG0128.jpg
Hehe.. or you could take the cradle too. :) BTW, all you need to buy from BMW is this dash piece. You can see where I dremeled it, to bring the power cord through. Then closed the whole using rubber grommets from the auto parts store.


http://lh6.ggpht.com/_g1En8RAqtZo/TN...0/IMAG0130.jpg
The Nuvi, cradle and power cord/traffic receiver come as one package from Garmin. Note, the speaker built into the cradle. The Nuvi itself also has a small speaker built into it the is enabled when the unit is not in it's cradle.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_g1En8RAqtZo/TN...0/IMAG0132.jpg
Turn on the ignition and up comes the Nuvi...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_g1En8RAqtZo/TN...0/IMAG0131.jpg

Hope you like... :)

I'll need to go back in there to add a proper USB / ipod connection. Thinking about using that BSW one, and mounting a USB and Cigarette lighter plate inside the arm console. That'll be this summer's project ;).

BTW, Bavauto sells a set of upholstery removal tools so that you don't end up scratching stuff. I highly recommend them.

nrigroom 01-31-2011 11:37 AM

GPS Install Kit 65900445996
 
After looking at SNA's beautiful install, I am thinking of installing this kit in my X3. However, I'd rather use the wiring that comes with the kit than use the USB power source that SNA got from Amazon. Has anyone tried this approach...?

ngcreese 02-01-2011 12:49 PM

In it's original form, the kit consisted of two things:

--The alternate center dash with the Garmin mounting ball and a wiring harness with open wires at one end (to patch into your car radio's wiring harness, for power only) & a plug at the other ( to mate with the NAVI's wiring harness once you've assembled it. ).

-- The BMW branded Garmin NAVI, with it's cradle, and a wiring harness with open wires at one end ( to pass through the garmin ball, and then you would insert those open wires into a plug header and mate it to the other harness, mentioned above...) and a ( i think it was...) a mini usb connector to plug into the NAVI.

The only thing this setup got you, was super clean passage of the wires from the NAVI to the car, via the garmin ball mount. The down side is, if you looked carefully, there was no provition to patch in NAVI audio into the X3 radio.... only power was provided.

Also, when I went after the whole kit, the BMW branded Garmin NAVI was no longer available.

So.. I just got the center dash and improvised, by Dremeling a small hole into it ( in a location that's hidden by the 3790T's cradle ) and using rubber grommets to fill in the gap.


Also, with the 3790T traffic info is received via the power cable, so splicing it to pass the wires through the garmin ball mount, would risky.
Going this route, a cigaretter lighter socket with an in-line fuse and open wires at the other end, such that you can patch it into the electrical system at the radio harness is the best option.

I have gone back in there to improve the setup...

The NAVI power plug and the cigarette lighter socket tend to seperate over time, due to vibration from driving. Using a thick rubber band to keep them together, solves this problem.

Also, I unbundled the power cable and passed it through an open to the passenger's side of the center dash area. I now receive traffic info nicely.



I've recently noticed that BMW has updated the portable navigation option to what looks like a Garmin 3790T. And they never stopped selling the alternate center dash w/ the garmin ball mount.

I haven't had the opportunity to check to see if they now allow audio patching into the car radio.... that would be cool.

Hope this info helps! :)

suss1173 06-09-2011 10:46 AM

I purchased this mounting kit about 18 months ago, and never got around to installing it. I think an X5 is in our near future, so if anyone wants it, I'm open to reasonable offers, other wise it will probaly be included with the X3 when we sell it.
suss1173@aol

nrigroom 07-15-2011 10:42 PM

Thanks ngcreese for that clarification.

I have one follow up question for you experts about the little ball in the BMW tray: does the standard Garmin Nuvi clip snap on to it pretty tight? I am asking because on one of the other forums it seems someone had to mod the round hole on their clip to get a tight fit. And I am talking about the clip which looks like this form the side:
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BTW, tt appears that getbmwparts.com has stopped selling the tray (GPS Install Kit 65900445996). I'll probably be getting it from pelicanparts.

TIA!

ngcreese 07-20-2011 08:36 AM

Hmm... I seem to remember there being a small notch on the ball mount. I dremeled that away. I didn't need to modify the holder clip the mounts onto the ball, and holds the GPS in place.

suss1173 07-20-2011 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nrigroom (Post 834294)
Thanks ngcreese for that clarification.

I have one follow up question for you experts about the little ball in the BMW tray: does the standard Garmin Nuvi clip snap on to it pretty tight? I am asking because on one of the other forums it seems someone had to mod the round hole on their clip to get a tight fit. And I am talking about the clip which looks like this form the side:
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BTW, tt appears that getbmwparts.com has stopped selling the tray (GPS Install Kit 65900445996). I'll probably be getting it from pelicanparts.

TIA!

I never got around to installing the one that I purchased, and now we are thinking about getting a larger truck.
Pelican has it for $88+ shipping (probably at least another $10= $98. If you want mine I sell it to you for $80 shipped any place in states.
LMK- [email protected]

nrigroom 07-20-2011 02:31 PM

Thanks again ngcreese. Based upon your response I made a leap of faith and got the part. The clip doesn't go on to the ball as-is, so I'll dremel the ball notch away like you had to.

This will definitely provide for a clean secure mount.

I haven't decided if I will connect the mini USB to the back of the radio as the intructions call for. I am not sure if I can even do that - I installed an IPOD adapter last year, so there may be a comptability issue - haven't gotten that far.

Hardwiring to a fuse like most of you have done is probably a cleaner option.

nrigroom 07-22-2011 06:54 PM

Happy Camper
 
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I dremeled the little notch away (just left a tiny bit on) and the Garmin Nuvi clip secures on to it nice and tight!

I have a Iphone that is now securely attached to this tray. Thanks to the Otterbox Defender case, whose clip fits the Garmin clip very well!


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