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InfluencE53 04-12-2015 10:00 PM

E53 CV Axle DIY
 
Looking to do this job myself but can't seem to find a writeup or video...
A litte help!!!

David.X5 04-12-2015 10:34 PM

Fronts or Rear?

InfluencE53 04-12-2015 11:22 PM

Both front CV Axles.
2002 X5 4.4

admranger 04-12-2015 11:39 PM

What's the problem that makes you believe you need to replace both axles?

I'm having search issues with my computers, so I can't link you threads but there is one on cv boot replacement in 30 minutes or less (which I have done myself), if that's what you need.

Joshdub 04-13-2015 01:32 AM

This is a diy for the boots, but taking the axle out isn't terribly different.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...0-minutes.html

InfluencE53 04-13-2015 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admranger (Post 1034230)
What's the problem that makes you believe you need to replace both axles?

I'm having search issues with my computers, so I can't link you threads but there is one on cv boot replacement in 30 minutes or less (which I have done myself), if that's what you need.

It's making a horrible noise!!! I just replaced the wheel bearings and it was good for about 2 weeks, then I started to hear a noise. I jacked the X5 up and took off the Passenger side tire to take a look... Grease everywhere and a giant slit in the boot! I want to Replace the CV Axles because it's actually less labor than just replacing boot. My X5 has about 150k miles. My passenger side is the only side making noise but I believe that when you change one side you should do the other because the same problem probably isn't far away!!!

InfluencE53 04-13-2015 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshdub (Post 1034238)
This is a diy for the boots, but taking the axle out isn't terribly different.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...0-minutes.html

Thanks Bro!!!! It is very informative!!:thumbup:

David.X5 04-13-2015 07:47 AM

Here's the DIY on the normal/long way

http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/x5/...mw-x5-e53.html

admranger 04-14-2015 12:59 AM

GKN is the way to go if you are doing the axles.

BTW: if you are repacking CV joints, recognize that the inner joints use different grease than the outers. The inner grease is nearly impossible to find separately for any reasonable amount of $$$ -- cheaper to buy the boot kit.

Ricky Bobby 04-14-2015 09:44 AM

^^^True, this is the way to go for the boot kits and the axles.

RFaber 04-19-2015 11:56 AM

2 Attachment(s)
I found that the new CV axles needed to be pulled into the hub. i was lucky to have a 60+ year experienced tech help me (father in law!!) he showed me a trick for pulling the axle in, (after ensuring the splines were all deburred and coated with a thin coat of antisieze. I made the puller from the old axle nut. but in future i may fab up some other longer puller.
good luck. and whatever you do, DONT POUND ON THE RUBBER BOOT TO DRIVE IN THE AXLE!!!!!!!
:cool:

squidzilla 04-19-2015 12:55 PM

Here is the link for CVJ in Denver: cvjaxles.com in case anyone can not find it on the web. ;)

cn90 04-19-2015 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader4 (Post 1034251)
If your CV joint is kaput because the boot has been torn for a long time or it's otherwise failed, making noise, etc then replacing it is in order...

1+,

CV Joint in any car will easily last some 400K if the CV Boot is not cracked, allowing dirt to get in!

I know a VW Passat owner with 400K on stock GKN CV Joint. This happens b/c he routinely replaces the boot every 60K-80K, at the first sign of minor cracks.

Most people don't bother looking at the wheel well once a week. If you do, you will spot the grease from a broken CV boot in a second. By the time noise is there, the CV Joint is damaged, a new axle is needed.

And yes, stick to GKN or used BMW axle (junk yard or ebay). The stuff you get from local auto parts store is another story. If you get the ebay or junak yard axles, inspect the boots and replace with GKN boot (don't use EMPI or Rein boots!).

In many cases, if you disconnect the INNER CV Joint, it is a much easier process than d/c the OUTER CV Joint.

cn90 04-19-2015 03:55 PM

Re different grease on INNER vs OUTER CV Joint. Personally I don't worry about tghis issue because millions of vehicles out there use GKN axles and grease is the same for both inner and outer. Maybe the X5 is "unique" lol...

admranger 04-19-2015 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn90 (Post 1034992)
Re different grease on INNER vs OUTER CV Joint. Personally I don't worry about tghis issue because millions of vehicles out there use GKN axles and grease is the same for both inner and outer. Maybe the X5 is "unique" lol...

Having done both the inner and outer boots on my 2005 X5 4.4i with factory boot kits bought at the dealer, I can guarantee the grease is different inner to outer.

Outer joint has a moly grease and is a standard CV joint. Inner is a tripod joint and the moly particles will clog the needle bearing parts of the tripod joint. The inner grease is a nasty yellowish stuff. Pegasus racing sells it separately, Tripod Joint Grease but I found the boot kit to be cheaper than just ordering a tube of grease and reusing the old boot.

jdstrickland 04-19-2015 09:22 PM

I once completely disassembled the CV joints in a Honda Accord. I washed all of the needle bearings in solvent and put the whole mess back together with wheel bearing grease. The clicking went away and I got several tens of thousands of miles of continued use, commuting about 130 miles round trip per day.

I was not aware of any special qualities for the grease.

I had torn boots on the outer joints. My goal was to reverse/mitigate the damage done by the tears in the boots,it worked. The outer joint sees far more travel than the inner ones.

David.X5 04-19-2015 09:29 PM

Once I discovered that Redline makes high-performance CV grease, I had to use that for all the CV joints I rebuild (4 since).

Redline is the shiznit!!! :thumbup:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0053O9FQS/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&cre ativeASIN=B0053O9FQS&linkCode=as2&tag=lavengcon-20&linkId=CM4WP7N2HDQLCDNZ

cn90 04-19-2015 10:49 PM

Re grease...

I have done tons of vehicles (Honda Odyssey van, Volvo S70, XC90 etc. etc.), the grease is the same for outer and inner.

The Volvo uses the same supplier GKN-Lobro as BMW X5. The Volvo tripod design is similar to BMW X5 with needle bearings etc. Anyway, the X5 is unique lol...probably overkilled engineering...

RFaber 04-19-2015 11:03 PM

Ive changed a few CV axles, and i always seem to have to pull the axle in snug, ive used OEM ones, cheap chinese ones, and mid grade ones. they all seem to need some sort of assistance to fit! (the only one that didnt was the original one, with the boots (and grease) changed!! even it needed to be snugged in the last 1/4 inch with an axle nut, Ive only ever experienced this with BMW!! ive checked the back of the hub and the new axles, and they all seem fine, just snug! so i made up some tools and not had any problems since!!

cn90 04-20-2015 09:33 AM

trader4,

I think RFaber refers to a tool he made.

I did the REAR bearing on my 1998 528i (E39), same idea as X5 Front and Rear bearings. The tool I made (to pull the axle outward during install) is mentioned in post #42 in the DIY that I wrote a while back on bimmerfest...

DIY: 1998 528i REAR Bearing the Easy Way! - Bimmerfest - BMW Forums



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I will link the image for ref. purpose:

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/at...hmentid=292626

RFaber 04-20-2015 09:58 PM

yes, the old wheel nut i modified, i ground it so that it would fit into the spline section. the "axle nut" is put on backwards, so that the washer end is up top I rotate it in using the pliers, in the notches i cut into it, I draw it into the hub assembly as far as i can by rotating the pliers. once i have a few turns on the nut, i back it off a bit, then slip in my puller, place a piece of bar stock across and continue to pull the new axle in to its final resting place.
then yes, i use the new wheel nut to cinch things tight, and apply the correct amount of torque to it, and its good to go!
I'm sure there are many other ways to do this, but i found this way worked well for me.
:cool:

I suppose if the new axles had a threaded center hole one could just add a bolt and pull them in without any additional grief! :)
just a thought!

Ricky Bobby 04-21-2015 09:22 AM

I used cn90's DIY when I did my wheel bearings and axle boots 2 years ago.

Let me tell you, I just don't feel comfortable laying a 2x4 over my hub and whacking with a sledgehammer until the axle comes through enough to thread the nut on.

Making that tool with the old axle nut and an impact socket and threading the axle into the hub was a lifesaver, so easy and cheap to do

admranger 04-23-2015 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn90 (Post 1035025)
Re grease...

I have done tons of vehicles (Honda Odyssey van, Volvo S70, XC90 etc. etc.), the grease is the same for outer and inner.

The Volvo uses the same supplier GKN-Lobro as BMW X5. The Volvo tripod design is similar to BMW X5 with needle bearings etc. Anyway, the X5 is unique lol...probably overkilled engineering...

The left front inner boot kit came from my dealer. It had different, yellowish goo grease vs. the black grease for the outer boot that I've also done (on the same left front axle no less). Your grease may vary.


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