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skrewcop 05-03-2015 02:01 PM

i need to change my voltage regulator
 
HI, i have read most of the threads about alternators but i still don't understand. (Not that mechanically inclined). I have to change the voltage regulator on my alternator and i was wondering if anyone can provide me with a video DiY or something like that as right now i am really tight on money and can't afford taking it to the shop . Or if someone could give me a list with all the tools i need it would be greatly appreciated. Also, do i need to remove the belt when i remove the alternator/? As i said i am not that mechanically inclined. Thank you in advance
The vehicle is a 2005 BMW E53 Xdrive 4.4i Automatic

jdstrickland 05-03-2015 02:31 PM

RealOEM.com * BMW E53 X5 3.0i ALTERNATOR PARTS 90A Valeo



This may not be the correct alternator so you should follow the link and back up a page or two to see what the options are. No matter which alternator you have, all of them have Item 2 as the voltage regulator. The regulators may or may not be the same, but you can do a little bit of research to figure this out. The link is also the parts for the I6 engine, so you will need to change the vehicle information, then go back to the engine electrics page to figure out the alternator that you have, and the VR that you need.

Once you find the VR that you need, then you can shop for best price from online sources, or the auto parts store down the street from your house.

jdstrickland 05-03-2015 02:35 PM

There are two Valeo alternators and a Bosch (for the 3.0L engine). The Valeos both take the same voltage regulator, and the Bosch takes a different one.

skrewcop 05-03-2015 06:11 PM

Thank you for your replies. I found the right part thanks to jdrstrickland.
@trader 4 i tried google too but i guess i missed this video lol thanks it is a HUGE help but i have one more question though: does the 2005 4.4i model have a water cooled alternator or air cooled? Thank you very much

jdstrickland 05-03-2015 06:30 PM

That's the kind of question that tells me that you should not be making repairs to your car. The fundamental difference in an air cooled vs. water cooled engine is so obvious that the question suggests that your next question will be about which end of the screwdriver is used to turn the screw.

jdstrickland 05-03-2015 06:31 PM

The question has become, why do you think you need to replace the voltage regulator?

upallnight 05-03-2015 07:05 PM

Before tearing into the alternator, remove the battery cables. You don't want to short circuit the battery and weld a tool to the frame.

squidzilla 05-03-2015 07:37 PM

Since you are newer to wrenching on things I would go very slow on doing this. Create a favorites list of all relevant threads in your browser. Print them off if you need to. You also want to create a list of relevant videos on your watch later list on your you tube account. You might end up going slow as hell but at least if makes it pretty much fool proof. Not saying you are a fool, but I treat myself as one and plan accordingly when doing my own DIY. Especially since I am new to it as well.

e30cabrio 05-03-2015 08:24 PM

I got a rebuilt Bosch on eBay for 250 over a year ago, going strong.

David.X5 05-03-2015 09:01 PM

I don't know why people are giving you a hard time. Its a pretty big job for a first time DIY, and shorting out the battery cables (for example) can do really bad things to you and the engine electronics.

How did you get to decide you need a new voltage regulator? If you describe the symptoms, folks might be able to help you diagnose it if that wasn't done professionally. In the US, many local auto parts stores will also test alternators for free if you carry it in, with the hope of selling you something...

Try to find the Bentley manual for your car if you can - some libraries might have it if you don't want to buy one now.

In the future, include the build date (month/year) and engine size. I see you wrote it is a 2005 4.4L, so I looked up the parts for you to start:

Part numbers are the same for January 2005 to December 2005:
air-cooled alternator, 170Amp output
voltage regulator (OEM is Valeo brand, rated to 180A): 12318510090
alternator: 12317540994

Here is one example of where to buy the whole alternator - not much more expensive than the voltage regulator:

180 AMP VALEO ALTERNATOR FOR 2005 2006 BMW X5 4.4L AND 2004 2005 2006 BMW X5 4.8L (TG17C027, TG17C027B) - VALEO REBUILT ALTERNATOR

skrewcop 05-03-2015 09:57 PM

Thank you all for the replies. I was never into mechanics but i like to think that people can do whatever they set their minds to do. I asked that question if it's water cooled because i saw some dyi's for water cooled ones and i wasn't sure but anyway i guess if it's air cooled it's a bit easier to remove.
I know for sure i need to replace the VR because the voltage goes crazy every time i start the car, it gives me the trans failsafe progr error, i got the infamous trifecta lit up on my dash and so on. My x5 is 01/2005. I am gonna start working on it in my next days off and get back with an update, hopefully it'll fix my problem. Thank you all

Astrok 05-03-2015 10:21 PM

If you go rebuilt get one with a new regulator
 
I have been down this road. Voltage spikes trifecta lights etc. I installed rebuilt 8 months ago was fine and just did it again because voltage spikes started again
On ebay their are new regulators, rebuilds with new regulators and new alternators at good prices. Lesson learned do a rebuilt with a new regulator I did not and had to do the job again

Riggodeaux 05-04-2015 10:04 AM

skrewcop, jdstrickland raises a good question after the snark :): why do you think its the voltage regulator? Especially if yours still mounts its original alternator, since you have to get in there anyway, you might want to replace the alt and VR at the same time [price spread isn't great, at least on the M54s], and check the belts carefully while you are at it. Read the part no. on the current alt, that will tell you whether its the original or a replacement ramanufactured version, the part to order, and whether its air or water cooled. I don't know about the V8, but for the 6 [M54] the handy dandy ebay fan assembly wrench [$18 or so] was a great help. Squid makes good points: this ain't rocket science, but it pays to read up carefully, get your parts and tools assembled, and proceed methodically. Good luck!

jdstrickland 05-04-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader4 (Post 1036700)
It isn't a question of how the *engine* is cooled. He's asking if the
alternator is water or air cooled. Some of the V8s have water cooled
alternators. As usual, I would think RealOem would probably have the answer.


My bad, I really need to read all of the words.

jdstrickland 05-04-2015 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skrewcop (Post 1036720)
Thank you all for the replies. I was never into mechanics but i like to think that people can do whatever they set their minds to do. I asked that question if it's water cooled because i saw some dyi's for water cooled ones and i wasn't sure but anyway i guess if it's air cooled it's a bit easier to remove.
I know for sure i need to replace the VR because the voltage goes crazy every time i start the car, it gives me the trans failsafe progr error, i got the infamous trifecta lit up on my dash and so on. My x5 is 01/2005. I am gonna start working on it in my next days off and get back with an update, hopefully it'll fix my problem. Thank you all


A test of the charging system is that the battery voltage with engine off should be about 12.5v. The battery is rated to 12, and that's where it should be, give or take.

With engine on, the voltage should be 14.4v.

If the voltage is low before engine start, but okay after, then the alternator is working and the battery is weak/old. It can be weak and new, I suppose. This would indicate a manufacturing error.

jdstrickland 05-04-2015 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riggodeaux (Post 1036768)
skrewcop, jdstrickland raises a good question after the snark :): why do you think its the voltage regulator? Especially if yours still mounts its original alternator, since you have to get in there anyway, you might want to replace the alt and VR at the same time [price spread isn't great, at least on the M54s], and check the belts carefully while you are at it. Read the part no. on the current alt, that will tell you whether its the original or a replacement ramanufactured version, the part to order, and whether its air or water cooled. I don't know about the V8, but for the 6 [M54] the handy dandy ebay fan assembly wrench [$18 or so] was a great help. Squid makes good points: this ain't rocket science, but it pays to read up carefully, get your parts and tools assembled, and proceed methodically. Good luck!



The alternator comes with the VR installed. The VR alone is marginally cheaper, and arguably easier to install because if done right the alternator can remain on the car.

Riggodeaux 05-04-2015 12:21 PM

One other point: I don't know about the V8s, but on the M54, to get to the alt it helped to remove the power steering reservoir, which can also be a source of leaks. If the ps fluid looks like chocolate milk, also a good time to flush that and maybe [as I did] replace the PS reservoir [relatively cheap part] so as to replace its filter. I try to do this kind of preventive maintenance task thats 'on the way' whenever I start pulling parts out from under the hood ..... as noted, the ebay fan wrench [the two piece version, with a wrench and separate 'wedge' bar] is nice for the alt task as well as if you have to eventually change the water pump, etc.

skrewcop 05-04-2015 12:55 PM

@Riggodeaux that is exactly my intention, to change the reservoir too.

admranger 05-04-2015 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trader4 (Post 1036773)
That's a good point. If I were him, I'd try to loosen the fan nut right away.

I can 100% guarantee you he'll never be able to do this.

N62's don't have mechanical fans...

upallnight 05-04-2015 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admranger (Post 1036801)
I can 100% guarantee you he'll never be able to do this.

N62's don't have mechanical fans...

Again too many Cliff Clavens on this forum posting bad info.

Astrok 05-05-2015 07:31 AM

Miss information
 
I have done this job on my 4.8 and their is no need for any special tool for cooling fan. Their are 2 plastic clips under air intake you remove disconnect hoses and wires and fan assembly slides up and out. Their is no way VR can be changed without removal of alternator. It is so tight you can not see or access wires on back. You must pull it forward after bolt removal to access wires. Only special need is a T 60 torx to release belt tension.

JBW2XOP 07-22-2015 01:45 PM

Hi Astrok:

I have a 2004 X5 4.4i and need to replace Voltage Regulator or Alternator. I have done this job on my 330i, but taking the X5 fan out seems little intimidating; therefore, wondering if you have any pictures/instructions that will help me in this job.

Thanks,

upallnight 07-23-2015 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBW2XOP (Post 1045512)
Hi Astrok:

I have a 2004 X5 4.4i and need to replace Voltage Regulator or Alternator. I have done this job on my 330i, but taking the X5 fan out seems little intimidating; therefore, wondering if you have any pictures/instructions that will help me in this job.

Thanks,

If you have the mechanical fan clutch, get the special tool to hold the pulley and the 32mm wrench.

JBW2XOP 07-25-2015 12:38 PM

Alternator Replacement
 
I have Electrical fan and need some guidance on how to remove it; unless alternator can be replaced without removing the fan.

Thanks,


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