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mam4.6 06-30-2015 10:28 PM

FINALLY... Squared up and rolling large!
 
Really diggin' this look... :D

http://www.xoutpost.com/members/mam4...hpa4puq8pm.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/members/mam4...4-img-6020.jpg

Wadya'll think? Now just to find time to put on those flares...

4.8iSteve53 06-30-2015 10:30 PM

Sweet!

EH6TunerDaniel 06-30-2015 10:33 PM

Sick!

X53Jay4.8is 07-01-2015 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mam4.6 (Post 1043142)
Really diggin' this look... :D



Wadya'll think? Now just to find time to put on those flares...

ALright Matt this is looking really good and has me wondering. I just got my front flares from the dealer so I imagine once you install you will have the perfect look you have been desiring.

fxslin 07-01-2015 03:59 AM

Sweet! Love the look!

4.8isX5 07-01-2015 04:10 AM

Looks like your running the 9" wheels still up front. Regardless i always thought this is how the trucks should have come originally with spacers etc. Looks beefy.

I was going to run 315's up front as well but when i was getting my wheels mounted my guy didnt have any used 315s which werent run flats, and i did not want rfts.

I run a slight stretch because i got 275;s michelin diamaris from him although cant complain because they were 8.5/9/32nds and i paid $160 including mount for both, these tires normally run $400 a pop.

Next tire change though im going 315 most likely

mam4.6 07-01-2015 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 4.8isX5 (Post 1043173)
Looks like your running the 9" wheels still up front.

You got good eyes! I actually do have 10.5in front, but, as you've noticed, the spokes don't have as much concave as the rears do. FULL DISCLOSURE: they're reps! I know, I know, don't hate on me, but I have a complete set of replica 87's that I took off somebody's hands. My 2nd set of OE 87's are getting refinished, so I just put these on 'cause I couldn't wait! I know, everybody, don't try to figure out how many sets of wheels I have! I have a feeling I'm gonna have to post some pics of my stacks of wheels so you all believe me. :D

After I installed the reps, I noticed they're different than the OE wheels. Figured somebody would notice...

4.8isX5 07-01-2015 07:39 AM

Interesting. Reason why i said 9 inchers was because the concave was missing, but it didnt feel 100% right cause the sidewalls would be really "fat" with a 315 on a 9" and they werent. Guess the 10.5 reps were made without the actual concave design of OE.

J.Belknap 07-01-2015 09:52 AM

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1. With all these '87's lying around could you get them on a scale for weight measurements?

2. Wow the reps have a huge difference in look / concave-ness. Would they would clear Brembo calipers??

3. Looking forward to see this complete with OEM 10.5" wheels and flares on. ;)


P.S. In case you decide to get brakes down the road, the OEM spoke comes millimeters from the caliper, here's a pic FWIW:

525iT_Feen 07-01-2015 10:05 AM

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

mam4.6 07-01-2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.8isX5 (Post 1043177)
Interesting. Reason why i said 9 inchers was because the concave was missing, but it didnt feel 100% right cause the sidewalls would be really "fat" with a 315 on a 9" and they werent. Guess the 10.5 reps were made without the actual concave design of OE.

Seems so. I'd like to do some measuring to see if the wheels sits in the same location as OE's, or not. I'd be interested in seeing how much concave somebody else's reps have, that have BWM stamped on them. These aren't stamped BMW or BWM, inside or out.

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Originally Posted by J.Belknap (Post 1043193)
1. With all these '87's lying around could you get them on a scale for weight measurements?

Sure. I'll have to unmount some tires, as most all of the wheels have tires on them. You want the weight difference between OE and reps?

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Originally Posted by J.Belknap (Post 1043193)
2. Wow the reps have a huge difference in look / concave-ness. Would they would clear Brembo calipers??

Interesting. I'll have to do some measuring to see what the difference is in clearance. I'll throw up a pic of the inside, eventually. They're molded a bit different than OE wheels where they come against the hub face.

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Originally Posted by J.Belknap (Post 1043193)
3. Looking forward to see this complete with OEM 10.5" wheels and flares on. ;)


P.S. In case you decide to get brakes down the road, the OEM spoke comes millimeters from the caliper, here's a pic FWIW:

As am I! Just LOVE all of your pics!! :thumbup: They're what made me decide to go square... Now quit posting pics of your big-ass brakes. I'm out of money, lol...





Thanks for all the love, everybody. This look makes me love my IS all the more...

Now I'm trying to decide, should I sell all my extra wheels, OE and reps, and buy some aftermarket, or roll like this for awhile?? :dunno: I do love this look...

J.Belknap 07-02-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mam4.6 (Post 1043283)
You want the weight difference between OE and reps?

Only if it's not too much trouble. How do you like the driving feel?

Looking forward to more pics! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

X53Jay4.8is 07-02-2015 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mam4.6 (Post 1043142)
Really diggin' this look... :D

http://www.xoutpost.com/members/mam4...hpa4puq8pm.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/members/mam4...4-img-6020.jpg

Wadya'll think? Now just to find time to put on those flares...

Matt I forgot to ask with the square set up in the pictures are you using any spacers on this front and rear? If so what is the thickness on spacers you are using to achieve the look?

four.8is 07-02-2015 10:23 AM

Looks great. Haven't been too active lately on this forum but can you get the front flares from the dealer now?

FellowsheepTech 07-02-2015 11:20 AM

What a sweet look! What I was hoping to do but had a hard time finding what would work, and had to get through inspection...so settled for 255/55/18 on 8.5s. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...201d1081bf.jpg. Spacers might help me now?
The other thing is that much meat on the hoof might really kill performance?


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Tahmid 07-02-2015 11:26 AM

Looks great!! are you planning to go concave 10.5 all around? Would look amazing!

Joshdub 07-02-2015 11:47 AM

That looks great! I love the 315 all around.

X53Jay4.8is 07-02-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by four.8is (Post 1043319)
Looks great. Haven't been too active lately on this forum but can you get the front flares from the dealer now?

Yes you can still get the front flare set from the dealer. I just purchased a set last week that was delivered yesterday.

tmv 07-02-2015 01:04 PM

Need to be lowered. Look like something wrong with the suspension.

Ricky Bobby 07-02-2015 09:11 PM

Wow I'm shocked at the different look of concave between OE and replica. My 168s are replicas but factory offsets and the rears on mine look like your OE 87 rears (et30 is pretty concave). But the looks is pretty damn good Matt!

In order to give some input, you currently have:
-1 OE set of staggered 87s
-1 replica set of staggered 87s
-1 OE chrome plate set of staggered 87s

Is that right? Oh yeah and btw after the front flares are on, no spacers are needed. H&R springs with the rear links would look good though :)

If it were me, I don't know how easy it is to strip chrome plating, but I'd refinish 4 square 10.5" 87 rears if you want to run 315s and 10.5's all around, so they match cosmetically as well as quality wise.

Take the OE fronts, and use them as a winter set in 9.5s as you'll get better snow traction with 275/40's.

Sell the replica set you could prob get some decent coin for it.

My 2 pennies...

mam4.6 07-02-2015 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1043391)
Wow I'm shocked at the different look of concave between OE and replica. My 168s are replicas but factory offsets and the rears on mine look like your OE 87 rears (et30 is pretty concave). But the looks is pretty damn good Matt!

Thanks! :thumbup: I love it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1043391)
In order to give some input, you currently have:
-1 OE set of staggered 87s
-1 replica set of staggered 87s
-1 OE chrome plate set of staggered 87s

Is that right?

I never posted all the good "deals" I found! ;) I have the 87's the X5 came with + 2 sets of OE 87's, 1 set of 87 reps, and a chrome-plate set of 214 reps! :D I'll post pictures, promise...

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1043391)
Oh yeah and btw after the front flares are on, no spacers are needed. H&R springs with the rear links would look good though :)

Yep, currently running 30 MM in the rear, and no spacers in the front. I've wanted to "get lowered ever since I got it, but haven't found the time yet. WHEEL GAP KILLS, LOL... :bustingup

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1043391)
If it were me, I don't know how easy it is to strip chrome plating, but I'd refinish 4 square 10.5" 87 rears if you want to run 315s and 10.5's all around, so they match cosmetically as well as quality wise.

That's the plan...



Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1043391)
Sell the replica set you could prob get some decent coin for it.

My 2 pennies...

Thanks... :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmv (Post 1043335)
Need to be lowered. Look like something wrong with the suspension.

I know. Gimme some time...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tahmid (Post 1043324)
Looks great!! are you planning to go concave 10.5 all around? Would look amazing!

Absolutely! Just need to get 4 10.5's refinished. The mismatch bothers me...

Quote:

Originally Posted by four.8is (Post 1043319)
Looks great. Haven't been too active lately on this forum but can you get the front flares from the dealer now?

Yes, here are the P/N's...

4.6/4.8
– Front Flares ONLY (NO Running Boards).


Part Number ------ Description ------------------------- QTY

51 71 7 002 953 -- BLIND RIVET ------------------------- 14
51 71 7 049 867 -- FLARED WHEEL ARCH, FRONT LEFT ------- 1
51 71 7 049 868 -- FLARED WHEEL ARCH, FRONT RIGHT ------ 1

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Originally Posted by X53Jay4.8is (Post 1043318)
Matt I forgot to ask with the square set up in the pictures are you using any spacers on this front and rear? If so what is the thickness on spacers you are using to achieve the look?

No spacers on the front, 30 MM in the rear...

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Originally Posted by J.Belknap (Post 1043314)

Gimme some time, I'll get them weighed...
Love the feel, definitely more tram-lining, which doesn't bother me. Probably will hydroplane quicker, so I'd say it'll be important to keep fresh tires on the X... Love the way it corners better, so much more planted. Just can't get enough of it...:D:D

SMOKEY53 07-03-2015 01:29 AM

Go square, or go home!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06...efcd202fcc.jpg

Ricky Bobby 07-03-2015 07:47 AM

Oh wow so the only chrome ones are the 214 reps, that is so awesome.

All this talk about 87's makes me want a set for winter lol

mam4.6 07-03-2015 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SMOKEY53 (Post 1043420)

Oh, YUM!! :thumbup:

Bouchedag84 07-06-2015 10:59 PM

STOP IT!
you guys are going to make me blow money i don't have haha.

i have 255s up front and 285s out back. not sure what my buddy has on his x5 but it looks way better than mine cause it's so wide

cool story bro

Ricky Bobby 07-07-2015 09:28 AM

^If your buddy has 20s then he has different tire sizes than you. You're limited by your tire size, wheel size, and lack of spacers on those 19's

Bouchedag84 07-07-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1043872)
^If your buddy has 20s then he has different tire sizes than you. You're limited by your tire size, wheel size, and lack of spacers on those 19's

Yeah he has 20s. Looks so good!

bcredliner 07-07-2015 11:37 AM

Looks good, nice work, it never ends.

itscoo2pyopants 12-15-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SMOKEY53 (Post 1043420)

this is what i wanted to see!! i found a pretty good deal for a set of 4 rims from a 4.8is. i was thinking about going to a squared setup (4 rears). i currently have staggered with 25/30 spacers. i could ditch the front spacers and go with 315 tires all around :drool:

smokey, do you have any spacers up front?

4.8isX5 12-15-2015 07:24 PM

Itscoo, do you run at factory height or lowered?

If you throw 168 rears up front you dont need the 25mm anymore. If your dropped you can add that 25 to the rear depending how low it is to line them up again.

StephenVA 12-15-2015 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMOKEY53 (Post 1043420)

Looks GREAT!

itscoo2pyopants 12-15-2015 10:07 PM

Good idea ^

I plan on staying a little lowered, approx 20mm from factory. I think 25mm spacer in the rear and nothing up front will match up nice. Possibly go with the front fender flares too ;)

itscoo2pyopants 12-17-2015 02:03 PM

just picked up another set of style 168 wheels. they do need some refinishing. cant wait to get them on!!

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/...psnlxqmm62.jpg

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/...psv3zmbthg.jpg

Joshdub 12-17-2015 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by itscoo2pyopants (Post 1062122)
just picked up another set of style 168 wheels. they do need some refinishing. cant wait to get them on!!

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/...psnlxqmm62.jpg

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/...psv3zmbthg.jpg

You must have had a secret source because I looked all over CL :thumbup:

itscoo2pyopants 12-17-2015 02:43 PM

^ i did find them on craigslist. they are a rare find, i got them a decent price too. i swooped up and picked them up quick ;)

Ricky Bobby 12-17-2015 04:22 PM

More interested in the boss ride behind that 168 sitting on the rear stand :)

itscoo2pyopants 12-17-2015 08:35 PM

2010 R1, pics of my first time on a track last summer :zoom:

http://i1359.photobucket.com/albums/...psq9odvcy7.jpg

J.Belknap 12-18-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by itscoo2pyopants (Post 1061886)
I think 25mm spacer in the rear and nothing up front will match up nice. Possibly go with the front fender flares too

That's the setup you want. :thumbup:

Clockwork 10-30-2020 03:30 PM

I assume no negatives, other than some tramlining and cost of tires? No problems with turning that bigger wheel/tire inside the wheel well? No suspension parts getting hit?

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itscoo2pyopants 10-31-2020 11:14 AM

Not sure if I’d do that setup again. Looks great, but extra effort in turns, oversteer, and hydroplaning. And accelerated wear on wheel bearings. Decreased braking too..

bcredliner 10-31-2020 12:12 PM

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There are no upsides to 315s on the front other than the cosmetics of personal taste. The downsides mentioned are nothing to be concerned about unless you are driving at handling limits regularity. You might notice a little better turn in but still minimal. If thread on the tires is directional they can only be moved from front to back. Back tires tend to wear faster and because of designed in negative camber you might get more miles on a set of tires but even then the downside is greater chance for hydroplaning. Since hydroplaning is speed related that is largely driver controlled.

If the change is cosmetic related I would just add spacers. The best route to fill the wheel wells is to lower the vehicle, lower the center of gravity. If you go that route the spacers can be minimal and the handling will be noticeable improved and the downsides of 315s are pretty much eliminated. For reference, I went with H&R lowering kit and only have 18 mm spacers.

Happy 10-31-2020 03:06 PM

Looking good bc! [emoji106]

Purplefade 10-31-2020 05:53 PM

That looks great!

I’m jealous 🤪

Been dying to do a 20” square setup on mine... but that will likely wait until spring at this point as we’re headed for snow in my parts and I’m very happy with my DWS06s for the moment...


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Clockwork 10-31-2020 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1194012)
There are no upsides to 315s on the front other than the cosmetics of personal taste. The downsides mentioned are nothing to be concerned about unless you are driving at handling limits regularity. You might notice a little better turn in but still minimal. If thread on the tires is directional they can only be moved from front to back. Back tires tend to wear faster and because of designed in negative camber you might get more miles on a set of tires but even then the downside is greater chance for hydroplaning. Since hydroplaning is speed related that is largely driver controlled.



If the change is cosmetic related I would just add spacers. The best route to fill the wheel wells is to lower the vehicle, lower the center of gravity. If you go that route the spacers can be minimal and the handling will be noticeable improved and the downsides of 315s are pretty much eliminated. For reference, I went with H&R lowering kit and only have 18 mm spacers.

Thanks very much. I was looking for comments like this, other than physical appearance.
I've decided not to venture that way and stick to factory staggered tire sizes.
Many thanks bcredliner

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Purplefade 11-24-2020 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 1194012)
There are no upsides to 315s on the front other than the cosmetics of personal taste. The downsides mentioned are nothing to be concerned about unless you are driving at handling limits regularity. You might notice a little better turn in but still minimal. If thread on the tires is directional they can only be moved from front to back. Back tires tend to wear faster and because of designed in negative camber you might get more miles on a set of tires but even then the downside is greater chance for hydroplaning. Since hydroplaning is speed related that is largely driver controlled.

If the change is cosmetic related I would just add spacers. The best route to fill the wheel wells is to lower the vehicle, lower the center of gravity. If you go that route the spacers can be minimal and the handling will be noticeable improved and the downsides of 315s are pretty much eliminated. For reference, I went with H&R lowering kit and only have 18 mm spacers.


Hey BC


I just picked up a set of Style 87s here about a week ish ago, looking at yours, I think I know the answer, but wanted to confirm, you are running the 20x10.50s on all for corners with 315s?


I have been considering either doing that or keeping the 20x9.50s and running maybe 295s. Reading your post my purpose is a combo of the look and the contact patch... as my wife says, I usually "drive" my X when I'm behind the wheel and I do like the fact that they can be "rotated" over the 20x10.50 / 20x9.50 setup to maybe stretch a few additional miles out of them.

Quick edit - these won't be my primary wheels and tires, they will only be on the truck from say April to Oct/Nov, depending on when the weather breaks here and then I'll go back to my winter setup.

Thoughts? - Appreciate the input :thumbup:

bcredliner 11-25-2020 03:43 PM

I have the stock staggered setup and tire size. I run Continental extreme contact tires. I have 18mm Velocity spacers. I modified the suspension and lowered it. I don't need or want any better cornering speed. If I were to do anything more, as a personal preference, I further reduce the understeer. It is less than stock and I really don't need to go further. Another reason I did not go to 10.5 wheels all around is unsprung weight. Even small increases in unsprung weight impact handling and acceleration. Since you haven't purchased 87s I suggest you check out rims that are lighter. Cost will be much more unless and you can find some that are used.

Purplefade 11-25-2020 04:24 PM

Thanks BC! You’ve given me something to think about. I actually did grab the 87s and was considering picking up another set and either keeping the 4 10.50s or the 4 9.50s and running a square setup for the ability to rotate as needed. The plan was keep 4 and sell the other 4. Already owning a very clean set now, maybe I’ll just hold on to those and forego the set I was picking up this Friday and just see what spring brings my way.

I always have liked the idea of lighter wheels... but just never loved the idea of paying what they want for them... and my 87s were a song being I snagged them from a buddy of mine. Why in the world did BMW make their wheels so darn heavy... nothing I’ve owned before (except my 79 F150) had wheels that just weighed a ton!


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wpoll 11-25-2020 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Purplefade (Post 1195326)
...Why in the world did BMW make their wheels so darn heavy... nothing I’ve owned before (except my 79 F150) had wheels that just weighed a ton!

Because the car weighs over two tonne...!? ;)

Happy 11-25-2020 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1195341)
Because the car weighs over two tonne...!? ;)


I’ll get that two tonne rollin! Trust me! [emoji16]

Purplefade 11-25-2020 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1195341)
Because the car weighs over two tonne...!? ;)



True there... I guess it’s either weight for sturdiness or light and costly for strength...



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bcredliner 11-27-2020 12:19 PM

https://burtbrothers.com/blog/lightw...-heavy-wheels/

https://burtbrothers.com/blog/lightw...-heavy-wheels/

Purplefade 11-27-2020 02:07 PM

Good read actually. Maybe the right answer is to get to spring and part company with both sets of my OEM wheels and go with something aftermarket. I would think between the two sets that I could easily offset the cost of a nice, shiny, new set and have the added benefit of buying them all in the same size, say 20x9.50 and running a decent tire that I could rotate [emoji106]. Not to mention the added benefit of very likely dropping 60+ pounds of weight off the suspension!

Thanks BC!


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crystalworks 11-27-2020 02:50 PM

Now is the time to buy a new set. I got my forgestars for around $1000 off during black friday of 2015. When with larger tires I think I dropped a fair amount of weight. Can't rotate my setup though.

Purplefade 11-27-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1195377)
Now is the time to buy a new set. I got my forgestars for around $1000 off during black friday of 2015. When with larger tires I think I dropped a fair amount of weight. Can't rotate my setup though.



Good call! Would actually love to do that, my limiting factor will be my wife... with my company going belly up from Covid, I’ve been unemployed for a fare bit... and it would be a tough sell convincing her that “I’ll gladly pay her Tuesday for a hamburger today”... (old Popeye reference there for us guys who are old enough)

That said, I may see what’s out there, always better to be armed with good info vs “hey hun, I’m buying some new wheels (for the car you’d love me to sell)” [emoji12]


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crystalworks 11-27-2020 04:38 PM

Been awhile since I heard a Wimpy reference. ;)

Sorry to hear about the employment situation. 2020's been rough. If you can talk your wife into new wheels, you're a better salesman than I. :) Wives around the world can't wait for the day the E53 leaves the family stables.

Purplefade 11-27-2020 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1195379)
Been awhile since I heard a Wimpy reference. ;)

Sorry to hear about the employment situation. 2020's been rough. If you can talk your wife into new wheels, you're a better salesman than I. :) Wives around the world can't wait for the day the E53 leaves the family stables.


Definitely appreciate that :thumbup: Thankfully we planned for some rainy days so life hasn't been all bad, which is a good thing. Fingers crossed 2021 starts to turn the corner for all of us and we start to see (the new) normal come through.


Yea, little hope of me convincing her that I need wheels, though she would happily buy in to the "leave it on jack stands until you sell all of your other junk and then buy wheels" school of thought - LOL


No doubt she would love for me to part company with it, the problem is that I'm a gluten for punishment and already have her "aware" that I'm hunting for a 2013 E70 5.0i with M Package as soon as I'm gainfully re-employed and settled back in. Probably hang on to the E53 as well since I have all but rebuilt it at this point - and I really enjoy it!

Spanker 11-27-2020 11:09 PM

Looks like shit actually.......ok, I admit it. I’m jealous. It looks fantastic. :-P.

Purplefade 11-27-2020 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spanker (Post 1195383)
Looks like shit actually.......ok, I admit it. I’m jealous. It looks fantastic. :-P.



Yea... bcredliner’s truck just about has me convinced to do the roof rack delete too - sucker is absolutely beautiful! - The truck - not BC [emoji12]


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bcredliner 11-28-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Purplefade (Post 1195384)
Yea... bcredliner’s truck just about has me convinced to do the roof rack delete too - sucker is absolutely beautiful! - The truck - not BC [emoji12]


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Thanks.

Happy 11-28-2020 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purplefade (Post 1195384)
Yea... bcredliner’s truck just about has me convinced to do the roof rack delete too - sucker is absolutely beautiful! - The truck - not BC [emoji12]


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Let me help you totally convince yourself!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...08b20dd0d3.jpg

Purplefade 11-28-2020 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy (Post 1195401)
Let me help you totally convince yourself!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...08b20dd0d3.jpg



OMG - that’s EXACTLY what I needed! Our trucks would be twins, couldn’t have been a better motivator!

The look is just so much more “streamlined” is the word I think I’m looking for - looks so much less “soccer hauler” (not that I’d ever really consider my X a soccer hauler... though all three of my kids did play) and more in motion - I absolutely love it.

Well Happy... I hope you’re happy with yourself [emoji12]. You’ve just made more work for me...

Probably won’t get to it this weekend but I will try to post pics once I’m done [emoji106]. (Sadly I won’t have the 87s on it yet, I have those wrapped and sealed until spring ☹️)


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