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FellowsheepTech 07-01-2015 10:05 PM

Any warnings w/audio upgrade?
 
Diving into the aftermarket stereo replacement this weekend. I have a 2003 3.0i w/no Nav, no DSP. I'll be replacing w/a Kenwood DDX771 (double DIN DVD), along with SWI-RC, SLC4 level converter, Metra harness, antenna adapter, dash kit and micro bypass.

For speakers I'm going with JBL GTO608c (6.5" component) in front door/pillar, and JBL GTO628 (6.5" coax) for back doors.

I think I've read that even the non-DSP amp is frequency specific for each speaker, so expecting that it won't sound right & will have to be replaced? I've been looking at a couple of affordable (~$150ish) 5 channel amps...anything I really do or don't want to consider? I don't have one sitting here because still not clear on the need & what the level converter buys me with the OEM amp. If I can use existing and it's decent enough I save the effort of interior disassembly & cable running for new amp.

If OEM amp survives the experiment, thinking of adding slim powered sub in the future. If new amp goes in, a sub will go in with it.

I've been reading up on the forums & watching YouTube videos, and it seems like the non-DSP swap is straightforward enough. I still wonder if I'm missing something...

One thing I'm cautious about - I'm OK w/losing some OBC funtions (range, etc.) but can I lockout or screw up something else?

Appreciate any feedback...
Chris

jsoto 07-01-2015 10:16 PM

Not sure what your experience will be....I have had a fairly expensive setup in mine. Focal BE, Alpine F1, etc. I used a very $$ transformer as I did get floor noise induced into the system without it.

FellowsheepTech 07-02-2015 10:53 AM

Well, I'm adding Kenwood 400W KACM1804 to the mix. My thinking is I can add amp in dash & use OEM speaker wire.

If that runs the doors well, maybe a KSC-SW11 powered sub joins in...

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FellowsheepTech 07-06-2015 10:25 AM

Still not there...
 
A fairly long weekend in the garage:

- pulled stock MID/CD out of dash Thursday night
- Friday, soldered up metra harness to HU harness
- pulled stock speakers from doors & pillars (left dash for now)
- removed/replaced speakers in door pods (let silicone sit over night)

- attempted SWC connection/programming & gave up.
Instruction state "must" cut & use wire at steering column, but didn't find how to access & identify that wire. Saw the "right" wire at harness however & tried to use that one. Programming always failed a few buttons in, I think due to other communication on the ibus (may try again at column). Already spent a lot to time searching, but
** Can anyone tell me how to get to this wire?

- Saturday installed new speakers (2ohm) in doors
Opted to use stock wiring for tweaters/woofers in front, and omit JBL crossovers, as intention was to use stock amp if possible. Used coax in back doors and left mid wires unconnected. **Should have photo'd all wires for future reference dangit!

- Completed HU fitting w/USB & Aux fished to ashtray, metra dash kit
- Plugged up stock amp & tested...all speakers working
With some balancing, not horrible, but in dire need of more bass (and I've never had a subwoofer installed in anything yet...)
- wired in KSC-SW11 (slim powered sub) in boot by tapping LR/RR wires at amp, and remote switch wire (lavender/white) at unused CD changer plug. Used power & ground blocks, and lo...no rear sound at all. This was the one & only point I didn't have battery disconnected, so figured I confused the amp. Disconnected battery & revised sub connections, reconnected & worked! With balancing, sounds a lot better!
- Fished sub remote from console, under carpet with stock cable run & back to boot.

- Sunday, subsequent testing/balancing & noted rear out again. Shut off vehicle, replugged amp, and working again. Same thing again later. Becoming convinced the stock amp isn't going to stay...
- Monday morning, even after replugging amp no rear sound or sub. Clearly not done yet.

Still have Scoshe SLC-4 level converter & Kenwood KACM1804 that I can utilize. Just can't decide if I want to put the amp in the dash (small enough) or boot. Regardless I need an accurate pinout of the amp connector: 2003 E53, no DSP, no Nav/CD.
** Any help here?
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